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Old September 17th, 2019, 07:43 PM   #941
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Old September 17th, 2019, 07:43 PM   #942
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I'm confused is this The Charter or what was to be the Charter or is this another one ???
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Old September 17th, 2019, 07:49 PM   #943
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That black tower looks ace

New thread though?
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Old September 17th, 2019, 08:00 PM   #944
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I'm confused is this The Charter or what was to be the Charter or is this another one ???

Yes, I would assume this is the 'Charter'. Or part of it as the 2nd part is the 'Irish Centre' which is due for planning soon. 350 units, in a 'tall & slender tower'.
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Old September 17th, 2019, 08:07 PM   #945
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More tall boxes, I hope the cladding looks a bit more exciting up close.

Also I'm concerned that all this Digbeth density is entirely reliant on the tram extension to ensure that people can get around, so any further delay in the tram extension because of a delay or cancellation of HS2 will inevitably put these in jeopardy.
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Old September 17th, 2019, 08:18 PM   #946
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Agreed, the tram extension needs to be built as soon as, otherwise these proposals won’t be seen to be built.
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Old September 17th, 2019, 08:22 PM   #947
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Not really Jon.

The tram is not an necessity for this area of regeneration.

The housing shortage within the city is not created on infrastructure. It's created on population growth. Housing is cancelled either due to demand, or the economy.
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Old September 17th, 2019, 08:33 PM   #948
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You see, just when you think the forum has gone quiet and it's time to take a break, something special comes along. Hooked, well and truly hooked.
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Old September 17th, 2019, 08:46 PM   #949
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This is not the charter check out Courts website development page....2 developments for digbeth with towers i beleive . .
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Old September 17th, 2019, 08:53 PM   #950
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This is not the charter check out Courts website development page....2 developments for digbeth with towers i beleive . .

Yes this and Irish Center.

Considering how up to date Court are on their website. I'd be suprised if they had completely missed this off their website.

It's just been renamed Stone Yard.
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Old September 17th, 2019, 08:57 PM   #951
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When was CC doing Holloway head??
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Old September 17th, 2019, 08:58 PM   #952
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Not really Jon.

The tram is not an necessity for this area of regeneration.

The housing shortage within the city is not created on infrastructure. It's created on population growth. Housing is cancelled either due to demand, or the economy.
Obviously, but the planned presence of the tram is likely to increase the value of the properties built near its stations. Without the tram they may not build it at all as the price of each unit will need to be less and the developer might not make enough money.

I do think the tram is a necessity for continued regeneration on this sort of scale.

I was also talking in terms of liveability. several 100m+ towers along a busy road without a means of moving the residents around efficiently will become somewhat nightmarish.
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Old September 17th, 2019, 08:58 PM   #953
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Was just about to post it.



Looks circa 30 storeys, around 100m. another excellent developemnt for this part of town. Lead up to the city will be impressive. More to come in this area too.


Imagine the view coming into Moor Street if everything around here gets built!!
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Old September 17th, 2019, 09:59 PM   #954
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When was CC doing Holloway head??


Around this time last year, it was reported that a start would happen in April but that's obviously been and gone.
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Old September 17th, 2019, 10:02 PM   #955
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Obviously, but the planned presence of the tram is likely to increase the value of the properties built near its stations. Without the tram they may not build it at all as the price of each unit will need to be less and the developer might not make enough money.

I do think the tram is a necessity for continued regeneration on this sort of scale.

I was also talking in terms of liveability. several 100m+ towers along a busy road without a means of moving the residents around efficiently will become somewhat nightmarish.
These development's bring significant S106 contribution's actually making the tram extension more likely than not.
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Old September 17th, 2019, 10:08 PM   #956
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These development's bring significant S106 contribution's actually making the tram extension more likely than not.
Are they going to raise £80bn in S106 contributions so HS2 can go ahead and the tram extension started and integrated with HS2 rather than being delayed by the government's rural vote garnering?
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Old September 17th, 2019, 10:21 PM   #957
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Are they going to raise £80bn in S106 contributions so HS2 can go ahead and the tram extension started and integrated with HS2 rather than being delayed by the government's rural vote garnering?
You believe the tram network has any real correlation with HS2?

The Metro will be built across Birmingham no matter what.

I don't think you really understand the principles of development to start throwing your toys out the pram.
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Old September 17th, 2019, 10:37 PM   #958
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You believe the tram network has any real correlation with HS2?

The Metro will be built across Birmingham no matter what.

I don't think you really understand the principles of development to start throwing your toys out the pram.
My point on HS2, which either you haven't grasped or are trying to ignore is that the Eastside tram extension has been delayed already because of HS2 not allowing access to the site.

Delays to work on Curzon Street Station will cause further delays to the tram extension. Cancellation of HS2 will require this whole section being redesigned so that it doesn't run through the derelict land or whatever BCU come up with as a masterplan. That redesign will take time.

Clear?

I believe my comments above constitute a legitimate concern given that the high rise development the area is enjoying is made possible by the infrastructure improvements of a possible tram extension, without it BCC would not consider such high density development as an option.

Your off-hand dismissive attitude needs addressing.
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Old September 17th, 2019, 10:57 PM   #959
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Court Collaboration today submitted plans for the redevelopment of the Bull Ring Trading Estate site in Digbeth, to be known as “The Stone Yard”. The proposed scheme will provide 928 one and two-bedroom apartments with amenity space and 10,000 sq ft of retail and leisure. More info coming soon #CourtCollab #Birmingham #Development #Property
New thread for this one then ?
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Old September 17th, 2019, 11:05 PM   #960
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New thread for this one then ?

We'll wait until the app appears on the planning portal.
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