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Old October 17th, 2019, 05:51 AM   #10701
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So again, why are you comparing gallons of diesel vs weight of batteries?
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Old October 17th, 2019, 06:09 AM   #10702
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Oh yeah, issue nga rin if ganoon, sayang. Pero at least isang station pwede, shared concourse lang kahit na may Ticket gate para makapunta sa SLH platform or waiting area. Parang sa Central lang sa Sydney, if sasakay ka ng XPT train may harang lang papunta sa platform nila at exit ka muna sa ticket gate, pero isang concourse lang ito. At least sa ganitong setup mas convenience sa pasahero compared na typical two station with walkway setup na ginagawa lagi dito.
Yes. Transfer station mangyayari. Basta kung maglagay man sila ng Mall sa loob mismo ng station, dapat very accessible yung station hindi yun dadaan ka muna sa malagubat na mga kiosk bago ka makapasok sa platform.
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Old October 17th, 2019, 06:14 AM   #10703
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No one here can cure your disease, IMHO.
Hahahahahaha!

Ganito na lang, sa Japan, pinapalitan nila old Diesel locomotives nila with Diesel-Electric hybrids. Yung total weight ng locomotive went down from 65T to 60T. The hybrids also carry less diesel fuel, so there...

Mukhang nakatenga pagiisip mo sa Lead-Acid batteries.
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Old October 17th, 2019, 07:26 AM   #10704
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There was an attempt to Bid combined NSRP and Long Haul in 2015 and never it went into good results. There were several companies interested but only to Commuter Line but not Long Haul. So any attempt to mix that again will be devasting on the side of operation and maintenance if bidded as one package.
Theoretically, an NSCR train can run into long haul tracks (not the other way around though), but it will leave wide platform gaps.

But it's still best to keep them separate for now.

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Old October 17th, 2019, 08:57 AM   #10705
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Theoretically, an NSCR train can run into long haul tracks (not the other way around though), but it will leave wide platform gaps.

But it's still best to keep them separate.
Yup thats true NSCR trains can go all the way throughout the length of SLH. Remember the "Through Operation Concepts if JICA for PNR..
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Old October 17th, 2019, 12:48 PM   #10706
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BEMU

EV-801 (817 series based) - JR kyushu



and

EV-301 - JR east

Hybrids

HB-210 JR East



HB-E300


Kiha e200



all common nila walang nasayang na space for passenger use unlike sa DOST hybrid

from wiki
DOST needs to design coaches similar to these. If DOST can design coaches that follows common standard, then what they make can be used also for existing lines. Heck if it's really good we can export it.

Also is long haul will be electrified?
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Old October 17th, 2019, 12:50 PM   #10707
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‘Big bang lending’: ADB doubling PH loans to $12.1B until 2022

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In what an official dubbed as a “big-bang lending program,” the Asian Development Bank (ADB) on Thursday said it will lend its host country, the Philippines, up to $12.1 billion between 2019 and 2022 or a record $3 billion yearly.

This year, the ADB’s lending program included two already approved projects—$1.3 billion for the Malolos-Clark Railway Project and $300 million for the Secondary Education Support Program.

Expected to be approved by the ADB board in November and December were the following loans: additional financing for the Infrastructure Preparation and Innovation Facility ($200 million); additional financing for the Angat Water Transmission Improvement Project ($126 million); the Local Government Development Program ($300 million); Capacity-Building to Foster Competition Project ($25 million); and Facilitating Youth School-to-Work Transition Program ($400 million).

For 2020 to 2022, Bird said the ADB “realistically” targets at least $2.5 billion in loans to the Philippines per year as some proposed projects may prove to be unfeasible.

The projects in the ADB’s Country Operations Business Plan for the Philippines 2020-2022 pipeline “must complete government approvals, including meeting thresholds for economic rates of return, before financing decisions are made,” Bird said.

Also, “amounts can change based on approved feasibility studies,” he added.

The big-ticket projects lined up for the ADB’s financing in 2021 included the following: South Commuter Railway Project between Manila and Calamba, Laguna ($1.2 billion); Integrated Flood Risk Management Sector Project to manage and minimize flooding in six river basins—three in Mindanao, two in Luzon and one in Visayas ($400 million); Support to Capital Market Generated Infrastructure Financing Program ($300 million); Metro Manila Bridges Project to build three bridges along Marikina River ($180 million); and EDSA Greenways Project ($100 million).

Also for ADB board approval next year were the Support for Agrifood System Competitiveness Program ($300 million); Philippine City Disaster Insurance Pool Project ($100 million); Sustainable Tourism Development (Livable Cities Investment) Project ($100 million); Regional Development Facility ($40 million); Davao Public Transport Modernization Project ($70 million); Local Government Revenue Mobilization Project ($28 million); Expanded Social Assistance Assistance Project for the government’s Pantawid Pamilyang Pilipino Program or 4Ps ($500 million); and Inclusive Finance Development Program ($300 million).

For 2021, loans in the pipeline included $500 million for the Metro Rail Transit (MRT) Line 4 Project between Ortigas Center and Taytay, Rizal; $500 million for Bataan-Cavite Bridge Project in Manila Bay; $500 million for Laguna Lakeshore Road Transport Project; $1-billion second tranche for Malolos-Clark Railway Project; $100 million for Mindanao Irrigation Project; $300 million for Local Government Development Program; $300 million for Facilitating Youth School-to-Work Transition; and $300 million for the Support to Universal Health Coverage Project.

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Hahahahahaha!

Ganito na lang, sa Japan, pinapalitan nila old Diesel locomotives nila with Diesel-Electric hybrids. Yung total weight ng locomotive went down from 65T to 60T. The hybrids also carry less diesel fuel, so there...

Mukhang nakatenga pagiisip mo sa Lead-Acid batteries.
FYI, you don't use LA batteries no more. It's Li-ion batteries!
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A gallon of gasoline (roughly 4.5 liters) weighs approximately 6 pounds (less than 3 kilos), occupies a mere 230 cubic inches but contains the equivalent of 36 kWhs of electrical energy. For better or worse, this is the energy density standard to which the driving public has gotten accustomed over the years. Anything heavier, bulkier or with less energy density would be considered inferior, hence the main obstacle to popularity of PEVs.
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Most current EVs use lithium-ion batteries that store no more than the equivalent of 16-24 kWh of energy in a single charge, short of the amount of energy in a gallon of gasoline. The Tesla, currently among the most powerful PEVs on the market, can store the equivalent of 53 kWh when fully charged. A subcompact car with a 10-gallon gas tank can store the energy equivalent of 7 Teslas, 15 Nissan Leafs or 23 Chevy Volts, according to industry sources.
Extrapolate those energy requirement into a 46.8-ton train and see how big a battery bank you are going to need!
I do not claim to be knowledgeable, I just need to surf the web and get to know what others (who are subject-matter experts) knew. HERE IS A SAMPLE WEBSITE.
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Old October 18th, 2019, 03:40 PM   #10709
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That is very much obvious.

Again, you have to look at the entire "locomotive". If it's a Diesel Locomotive, you're obviously going to have a bigger engine, bigger fuel tank, and a very heavy transmission line.

If you have a hybrid diesel-electric "locomotive", then depending on the design, you will have a smaller and lighter engine, smaller fuel tank, and NO transmission line. Even adding the weight of the batteries and whatever regenerative system you use, you will probably end up with the same total weight.

As I mentioned earlier, Hitachi managed to save 5 tons of weight when they switched from diesel to diesel-electric in one of their freight trains.

So... If I was the decision-maker for any railway, I would always employ a hybrid train over a diesel train every single time for as long as I can afford it. Best is if I can use full electric, but electrification is expensive and therefore impractical in some tracks.
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Nice. Now I can't wait to see the new livery for the Hyundai DMUs and the 203 series EMUs.
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Old October 21st, 2019, 01:04 AM   #10713
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mas nakakatuwa yung wala ng screen kaso pag bukas yung bintana tapos sa may tanyag area baka special package ang tatama sa iyo
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mas nakakatuwa yung wala ng screen kaso pag bukas yung bintana tapos sa may tanyag area baka special package ang tatama sa iyo
Kaya nga kelangan talagang linisin lahat yang mga squatters diyan sa may riles. They are not only squatting on government property, perwisyo pa sa mga tren ng PNR!
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sadly yung ibang nambabato hindi IS kundi mga bata doon
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Kaya nga kelangan talagang linisin lahat yang mga squatters diyan sa may riles. They are not only squatting on government property, perwisyo pa sa mga tren ng PNR!
Outside PNR ROW na yung mga nambabato doon.
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Shotgun pa rin para madala. Live rounds or rubber rounds.
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Old October 22nd, 2019, 08:19 AM   #10718
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Shotgun pa rin para madala. Live rounds or rubber rounds.
Cruel mo naman! Salt bullets na lang. Tingnan natin kung hanggan kelan ang kamot nila pag tamaan nga asin na didiin sa balat ng malalim!
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Bat kailangan pa ng shotgun? Paluhurin mo na lang sa asin. Ahihihihihihhi...
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Opo 'tang!
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