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Old February 26th, 2019, 10:57 AM   #101
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parang C5 road extension project
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Old February 26th, 2019, 11:04 AM   #102
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Yes, and there's actually a big chance that the people behind Prime would get away with it this time because they can always say that they only submitted an unsolicited proposal and that the government agreed to it. Plus, it's clear na malakas kapit nila sa current administration.

But, they definitely have an ulterior motive on this one.

This would still be good for the economy and mass transit of course, but mas utilitarian lang siguro ung parallel alignment ng MMSP Phase 2 and original LRT 6.
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Old February 26th, 2019, 11:07 AM   #103
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Sempre sila gagastos di pwedeng wala silang pakinabang di biro ang magpatayo ng lrt lines.
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Old February 26th, 2019, 12:15 PM   #104
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Ha? Seryoso ka ba? Panong walang problema eh hindi na nga dadaanan ng LRT 6 na unssolicited ung mga densely populated communities sa Imus and Dasma (in favor of Laguna and East Dasma) which is part of the original plan.

So dalawa pwede kalabasan: 1) ung MMSP phase 2 alignment stays the same in which case mawawalan ng access ung dapat ung Imus and Dasma areas dahil sa redundancy sa Molino Paliparan road

or 2) ung MMSP phase 2 ang iaadjust para maservice ung Imus and Salitran areas na malalaktawan ng unsolicited version ng LRT 6 in which case sana sinundan na lang nila ung original proposals for the two lines.

Does this not look like a problem to you?
LRT 1 extension lang yung sagot dyan sa problema mo. Tanong ko sa iyo where in the world na kapag inextend mo yung isang line for e.g LINE 1 ay magiging Line 6 na? Please check yung mga current extension project sa ibang bansa bago ka magtatalak dyan.

Kung pede lang pagkasyahin yung LRT 6 train sa MMSP extension mas okay para tracks lang din gagamitin ni Line 6.
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Old February 26th, 2019, 01:39 PM   #105
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LRT 1 extension lang yung sagot dyan sa problema mo. Tanong ko sa iyo where in the world na kapag inextend mo yung isang line for e.g LINE 1 ay magiging Line 6 na? Please check yung mga current extension project sa ibang bansa bago ka magtatalak dyan.

Kung pede lang pagkasyahin yung LRT 6 train sa MMSP extension mas okay para tracks lang din gagamitin ni Line 6.
1. I don't see any problem in pagtalak. This is a public forum. We can talak all we want

2. Where in the world? madami. I'll let you use google. I'm sure you can find lots of examples. Besides, bakit mo pa ko pinaghahanap sa ibang bansa, eh andito na nga ung mga proposals. Talk about being counterproductive.

3. Multiple lines in a single road should not be a problem if they are "interconnected", right?

So by using the same logic that you used, it should not be a problem if LRT Line 1 and 6 are separate lines (at least sila hindi redundant).

3. If i may add more talak, pwede naman talaga pagkasyahin, never said hindi. Parang hindi nga lang utilitarian ung kalalabasan, kawawa mga taga Imus and Dasmarinas sa Aguinaldo Highway side if ever.

4. Also, just because something is being done in other countries does not mean we should copy it here, kaya nga we have our own feasibility studies.
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Old February 26th, 2019, 02:21 PM   #106
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Tignan mo yung ruta ng Line 1 at yung original line 6. Parang gusto mo mangyari na magtransfer ka pa sa Line 6 para makarating sa paroroonan mo which is not efficient kung same lang din yung highway na dadaanan. Dapat yan suburban railway na ang pagtransferan mo sa Niog station. Dont compare ang kalsada sa railroad.

Sabog sabog na ang MRT/LRT system map sa Metro Manila tapos hahaluan mo pa ng dinugtong na another Line sa Line 1 kung pede naman iextend ang line 1.

Dapat ang design ng metro sa metro manila ay from north to south at west to east na isang haba na isang sakay ka lang from end to end hindi yung dinugtong lang sa dulo yung susunod na line.


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Old February 26th, 2019, 02:40 PM   #107
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LRT 1 extension lang yung sagot dyan sa problema mo. Tanong ko sa iyo where in the world na kapag inextend mo yung isang line for e.g LINE 1 ay magiging Line 6 na? Please check yung mga current extension project sa ibang bansa bago ka magtatalak dyan.

Kung pede lang pagkasyahin yung LRT 6 train sa MMSP extension mas okay para tracks lang din gagamitin ni Line 6.
Curious din ako dito. (Sorry medyo obvious mga tanong ko, di naman ako masyado active dito)

1. Tuloy ba ang line 1 extension hanggang Dasma?
2. Yung line 1 extension ba dadaan ng Aguinaldo Highway or Imus at least?
3. So tatlong tren ang plano itayo sa south ng metro manila aabot hanggang dasma, LRT 1 ext, Subway, LRT 6?

Kung may planong idaan ang extension ng LRT1 sa imus at sa mga matataong lugar ng Cavite, walang dahilan para i-turn down ng NEDA ang unsolicited proposal na LRT6.

Batay lang naman dun sa mapa ng lrt6 at subway, parang magkalapit naman yata ang ruta nila. Wala bang map na naka lay out yung tatlo LRT1, Subway at LRT6 para mapagkumpara lang sana.

Sabi mo walang problema kung may redundancy ang lrt6 at subway, paano mo nasabi?
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Old February 26th, 2019, 02:44 PM   #108
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We're talking about railroad alignment sa roads. That's different from actually talking about roads (which I did not do). I just said that if you're saying na dalawang rail line sa isang road alignment ay pwede basta interconnected kahit magkatabi, edi ibig sabihin mas pwede ung LRT Line 1 connecting to LRT Line 6 kasi kahit papano mas efficient (despite the fact you'd need to transfer) kasi hindi redundant.

San ka ba naman nakakita dalawang rail lines along (Molino Paliparan) dahil sa unsolicited proposal ng Prime na LRT 6 plus ung nakaabang na MMSP Phase 2, tapos biglang sa kabila along Aguinaldo highway wala ng railway (considering mas densely populated dun at mas maraming commercial areas dun)

Super old topic na actually ung LRT 1 LRT 6 transfer issue. Kahit pangit, parang tanggap ko na na mgging separate rail line tlaga sila (in the absence of drastic changes of course), pero "interconnected" naman ung "rail" (not road) so ok na din diba. Tinanggap ko na kasi sa JICA studies at Long Term Development Reports ng NEDA parang nakaprogram na na LRT 1 + LRT 6 talaga e.

Pwede naman talaga LRT 1 extend up to Governor's Drive. But un nga, parang mas sabog na imbis na parallel lang "muna" ung rail lines para iservice ung Imus and Dasma via LRT 6 and MMSP Phase 2, kailangan mo pa iextend ung LRT1 kasi dinoble na sa kabila.

Ayoko din naman ng LRT 1 + 6, mas maganda LRT 1 na lang, para mas comportable sa byahe pag nakasakay sa train. Pero I doubt lang talaga na extend nila LRT 1 hangang governor's drive para lang magkaroon ng Dalawang railway sa eastern Dasma and laguna areas.

You can of course disagree with me, but that's ok.

P.S. I'm not boy_turista, and I know who he is. Just disappoints me that you would resort to think that I'm actually boy turista just because we disagree on certain points. "smh"

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Old February 26th, 2019, 02:54 PM   #109
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^ unsolicited proposal lang kasi yan syempre idadaan nila sa properties nung proponent. Wala naman problema doon kasi magfifinance nung railway construction except sa ROW pero dapat rail+property ang consortium na hindi iaasa yung chunk ng revenue sa pamasahe. Maganda dito kung iintegrate din ang Metro Bus ni Villar.
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Old February 26th, 2019, 03:07 PM   #110
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Ayoko din naman ng LRT 1 + 6, mas maganda LRT 1 na lang, para mas comportable sa byahe pag nakasakay sa train. Pero I doubt lang talaga na extend nila LRT 1 hangang governor's drive para lang magkaroon ng Dalawang railway sa eastern Dasma and laguna areas.

You can of course disagree with me, but that's ok.
Pero kung titingnan din naman kasi, private initiative ang LRT6 at natural may financial motive ang magpapatayo niyan. Sa part ng gobyerno, bakit niya tatanggihan iyan, eh ang laking tulong niyan sa mga tao. Hindi naman pwede diktahan ng NEDA ang proponent ng LRT6 na idaan nila sa aguinaldo highway.

Siguro naman open ang aguinaldo highway sa unsolicited proposal in case walang plano ang gobyerno na pondohan ang further extension ng lrt 1. Again di mo pwede pilitin ang proponent ng LRT6 na ipadaan niya sa aguinaldo kung gusto niya doon sa kabila.

Pero there is nothing in the construction of LRT6 that will stop anybody from building LRT1 via aguinaldo. Kung walang nagpo-propose, it's not LRT6's fault. Ok sana kung pondohan na lang ng gobyerno para madali matapos. Matagal tagal pa ang subway.
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Old February 26th, 2019, 03:36 PM   #111
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Pero kung titingnan din naman kasi, private initiative ang LRT6 at natural may financial motive ang magpapatayo niyan. Sa part ng gobyerno, bakit niya tatanggihan iyan, eh ang laking tulong niyan sa mga tao. Hindi naman pwede diktahan ng NEDA ang proponent ng LRT6 na idaan nila sa aguinaldo highway.

Siguro naman open ang aguinaldo highway sa unsolicited proposal in case walang plano ang gobyerno na pondohan ang further extension ng lrt 1. Again di mo pwede pilitin ang proponent ng LRT6 na ipadaan niya sa aguinaldo kung gusto niya doon sa kabila.

Pero there is nothing in the construction of LRT6 that will stop anybody from building LRT1 via aguinaldo. Kung walang nagpo-propose, it's not LRT6's fault. Ok sana kung pondohan na lang ng gobyerno para madali matapos. Matagal tagal pa ang subway.
Nothing wrong nga sir, mas prefer ko lang personally ung LRT6 and Subway duo. Kasi ung LRT1 extension hanggang Bacoor lang talaga sya for now. LRT6 ung formally planned na aabot sa Dasma via Aguinaldo then, Subway talaga dapat ung sa Molino Paliparan Road. Bagong entrada lang tong LRT6 na unsolicited na padaaanin sa Laguna and Dasma via Molino Paliparan Rd.

Pero the more rail lines the merrier nga basta matapos nila. Lahat naman tayo magbebenefit dyan.
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Old February 28th, 2019, 02:02 AM   #112
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Ah ito pala ang LRT6 Cavite line forum.. any news if LRT6 will have ARCA south Taguig common Station? Bali Taguig - Alabang - All Cavite towns - Baclaran?

Pwede din sa NAIA na mag meet ang JICA Subway at LRT6 Cavite line?

May PNR station sa FTI Arca south right or Sa Starmall Alabang pa ang PNR station? Pwede din dun ang Common train station papuntang Laguna and far south and to sea ports?

Any news if Metro Pacific Investments is interested with this LRT Cavite project? Malaysian Investors?

Cavite and nearby Laguna are booming with township and housing projects. Magkakaproblem sa transport kung wala pang Subway, MRT and LRT.

Cavite Line is feasible. Sana mag push before the year 2019 ends.
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Old February 28th, 2019, 04:56 AM   #113
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Well kung makuha to ni Sipag at Toyaga / Misis Hanepbuhay eh sana lang magkaroon ng magandang interconnection points sa existing at future rail lines.

Expected na talagang gatas to na dumaan sa developments nila ala C5 extension.
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Old February 28th, 2019, 06:40 AM   #114
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I really dont trust any politicians nowadays pero mas okay kung MPIC Ayala na lang or maybe JICA ulit.

Kailangan ng maumpisahan ang Cavite Line.
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Old February 28th, 2019, 01:10 PM   #115
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I really dont trust any politicians nowadays pero mas okay kung MPIC Ayala na lang or maybe JICA ulit.

Kailangan ng maumpisahan ang Cavite Line.
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Old February 28th, 2019, 06:15 PM   #116
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Delays uli yan kung lrmc pa din..
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https://ppp.gov.ph/ppp_projects/lrt-6-cavite-line-a/

Implementing Agency
Department of Transporation (DOTr)

Project Description
The project involves the construction, operation and maintenance of an approximately 23.5 km. Light Rail Transit System, consisting of nine (9) stations that will extend the LRT-1 Extension Project from Niog in Bacoor to Governor’s Drive in Dasmarinas traversing Bacoor, Imus and Dasmarinas Cities, all in the Province of Cavite.

Indicative Cost
Php 56.27 Billion

Procurement Mode
Unsolicited

PPP Structure
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REGION IV-A - CALABARZON
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On-going evaluation of ICC-Technical Board
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