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Old January 9th, 2016, 02:56 PM   #1
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Cebu Cable Car System

Moderator's Note: I am merging the Cebu Cable Car thread to the "Urban Gondola" thread due to recent developments. There is a current proposal that will implement this technology throughout Metro Manila and Metro Cebu. Until we have further developments, please continue to discuss any news relating to the Urban Gondola, regardless of which city it is going to be placed at, in this thread. Once we have firm plans in place, then we will create separate threads for each Gondola Line (or each city it is being implemented at).

For the past few years, this transportation sytem has attracted interest from several foreign investors as a viable mode of mass transportation system in Cebu to decongest traffic as well as hasten the development of upland areas.

The elevated topography of the province is a challenge for farmers to quickly bring their goods to the market, for upland residents to have better access to the city and for the city government to develop eco-tourism facilities. This system might be the answer to those problems.

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Arturo Bartiquin, Doppelmayr consultant in the Philippines, says the cable car system will help decongest traffic as this attracts people with cars.

Rene Santiago, president of Bellweather Advisory, a strategic investment and project development services firm, said the cable car system might work in areas like Mactan Island where roads are narrow and vehicle traffic is getting heavier.
http://www.philstar.com/cebu-news/20...ble-cars-maker

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The Aerial Ropeway Transport Project



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Qatari investors have expressed keen interest on a proposed cable
car system to be used for mass public transportation in the Philippines - a
first-of-its-kind in Asia, an official has said.

The Aerial Ropeway Transport project, which is expected to rise in Cebu City,
was presented recently to Qatari investors by the Cebu Trade Mission, according
to Philippine Business Council-Qatar (PBC-Q) chairman Greg Loayon.
source/full story: Gulf Times
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Doppelmayr is really bent on pursuing this project in Cebu. Hope this will finally be hitting off the ground. By the way, here's a similar project they've built in Bolivia.






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Old January 10th, 2016, 01:15 AM   #2
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One city also utilizing the cable car system is Medellin, Colombia. With this it revitalized the city and made it more livable and land value at an all time high. It Made transportation efficient and available to the mountainside communities and far flung areas and also it became a tourist attraction. Medellin has the same topography as Cebu minus the sea.
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Old January 13th, 2016, 06:47 AM   #3
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For the past few years, this transportation sytem has attracted interest from several foreign investors as a viable mode of mass transportation system in Cebu to decongest traffic as well as hasten the development of upland areas.

The elevated topography of the province is a challenge for farmers to quickly bring their goods to the market, for upland residents to have better access to the city and for the city government to develop eco-tourism facilities. This system might be the answer to those problems.

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I've been on the Teleferico (cable cars) in La Paz. They really help move people from the top quicker than the bus, 5-10 minutes v/s 45-1 hour minutes via ground transport. Very popular, cheap, and they will add 2 more lines. Quite expensive since they took the best (from Austria). However, it has load limit, and no suitcases or balikbayan boxes.
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Old January 19th, 2016, 12:33 AM   #4
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Mora ug lubog pa ni sa hanap2x ning planoha. There's so many hurdles to tackle before it can be materialized. But kon decidido gyud ang investors ani, it's a welcome development for cebu and maybe an added tourists attraction to the island.
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Old January 30th, 2016, 01:11 PM   #5
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Can't wait for this. Hope the Mega Cebu planners will include this in their infrastructure plans so that extra attention will be given.

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Mora ug lubog pa ni sa hanap2x ning planoha. There's so many hurdles to tackle before it can be materialized. But kon decidido gyud ang investors ani, it's a welcome development for cebu and maybe an added tourists attraction to the island.
Adto ni ibutang sa Balamban 'nyor gikan sa Gaas! Unya ang pikas pud gikan sa Busay dulhog sa Cebu City Proper!
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Old February 7th, 2016, 10:52 PM   #7
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Ka class sa taga gaas no kay di cable car naman padulhog ciudad.
Lol jk

Maayo lang ni pang tourists attraction kay im sure mahal kaayo ni ug plete. Naa pa bay piso2x plete dinha sa jeep? Lol
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Urban Gondola

Our incoming DOTC Secretary, Art Tugade, is so awesome with his "out of the box" thinking. One of the things he is proposing to help resolve the traffic in Metro Manila is the "Urban Gondola".

Urban gondolas to ease traffic

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The idea has been broached to incoming Transport Sec. Art Tugade. Ski lifts can be used to ease traffic in Metros Manila and Cebu. They’re not the single seats or small skypods seen in theme parks. Bus-sized, enclosed and carrying 15 to 100 passengers like those in busy European mountain resorts, such lifts are being considered as mass rapid transit in dozens of congested cities worldwide. They’re called urban gondolas, and have been in operation in La Paz, Bolivia, since 2014.

Urban planners began looking to adapt the ski lift for urban transport due to improved speed, price, and safety. Urban gondolas are a major business in Europe, as are light rail vehicles. Instead of on rail tracks, the gondolas run on ropeways: steel cables moved by powerful motors. An Austrian resort has set the record of moving 298,000 people per hour on a train of gondolas. As urban transit, that translates to 14 million people riding both directions in 24 hours. The motors that pull the cable can move gondolas 15-45 kph, about the same speed as buses but slower than metros. The cost is much lower, and accidents are negligible in Europe.

Urban gondolas can run their own routes or be used as components of other mass rapid transits. Like, they can transport passengers to and from train and bus stations, and airports. The Bolivian aerial ropeway began as a 10-kilometer line that moves 163,000 passengers per day. Reliability: rides are available 99.4 percent of the time. Two more lines stretching 30 kilometers currently are being set up.

Ropeways are faster and cheaper to construct. Only towers are needed every 200 to 1,000 meters of gondola cable. The ten-kilometer Bolivian line cost $235 million, payable over 25 years. By contrast, the first two-kilometer segment of New York’s Second Avenue subway cost a whopping $4.5 billion. Maintenance also is low cost.

If applied to Metro Manila, possible urban gondola routes are: Mall of Asia to the LRT-1 and MRT-3 joint station; Bonifacio Global City to Ayala-Makati; Espańa to Elliptical Road with branches; and Quezon City to Valenzuela.
The Urban Gondola isn't in widespread use yet but the technology is fairly common in Europe and North America, usually seen in ski resorts. However, as a reference point, such system in La Paz, Bolivia is currently in use and seems to be doing well....

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Mi Teleférico
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Mi Teleférico (Spanish pronunciation: [mi tele'feɾiko], English: My Cable Car), also known as Teleférico La Paz-El Alto (La Paz-El Alto Cable Car), is an aerial cable car urban transit system opened in 2014 in the Bolivian city of La Paz. Currently three lines are in operation and seven more lines are in the planning stage. The three initial lines were built by the Austrian company Doppelmayr. The first two lines, Red and Yellow, connect La Paz with the neighboring city of El Alto. The network currently consists of 10 stations, one of which, Chuqui Apu/Libertador, is shared by both the Yellow and Green Lines.

At 10 km (6.2 mi) in length, Phase One (the first three lines) was considered to be the longest aerial cable car system in the world upon its completion in 2014, and Phase Two will extend the system length by some 20 km (12 mi). Additionally, while other urban transit cable cars like Medellín's Metrocable complement existing rapid transit systems, Mi Teleférico will be the first rapid transit network to use cable cars as the primary mode of transportation.


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Our incoming DOTC Secretary, Art Tugade, is so awesome with his "out of the box" thinking. One of the things he is proposing to help resolve the traffic in Metro Manila is the "Urban Gondola".

Urban gondolas to ease traffic



The Urban Gondola isn't in widespread use yet but the technology is fairly common in Europe and North America, usually seen in ski resorts. However, as a reference point, such system in La Paz, Bolivia is currently in use and seems to be doing well....

From Wikipedia...

Mi Teleférico




magrereklamo jan ang mga bus at jeepney sasabhin papatayin yung kabuhayan nila ngayun nga kinasuhan ng samahan ng mga taxi operator sina abaya at ginez eh dahil sa pag apruba nila sa mga tnv's or yung mga uber grab taxi at uhop..
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I think something like this could be feasible in Baguio.
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From Metro Manila to Antipolo, too!
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How many can sit in a gondola? What is its top speed? Can it transport 300 - 500th people daily? And what about during strong typhoons and floodings?

Why dont they just implement JICA's plan instead of this whimsical project
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How many can sit in a gondola? What is its top speed? Can it transport 300 - 500th people daily? And what about during strong typhoons and floodings?

Why dont they just implement JICA's plan instead of this whimsical project
Did you not read any of the articles, Wikipedia pages or watch the youtube videos that were previously posted at all????
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I like the idea, Short distances to connect to railways will be viable imo. I know there is a cable car system in new york as well. That seems to work better as it can transport more people per car
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I like the idea, Short distances to connect to railways will be viable imo. I know there is a cable car system in new york as well. That seems to work better as it can transport more people per car
You mean this one...

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i dunno really but if you are going to look closely at the topography of La Paz and Medellin, both of them are located on hilly or mountainous areas (La Paz is, in fact, the highest administrative capital in the world), the kind of places where cable cars work. Metro Manila and Cebu are located on flat land. maybe having a monorail for both Metro Manila and Cebu will be better than a cable car system.
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i dunno really but if you are going to look closely at the topography of La Paz and Medellin, both of them are located on hilly or mountainous areas (La Paz is, in fact, the highest administrative capital in the world), the kind of places where cable cars work. Metro Manila and Cebu are located on flat land. maybe having a monorail for both Metro Manila and Cebu will be better than a cable car system.
cable car are applicable irregardless of topography / gradient. As Bolivia's cable car project shows..it is less disruptive and comparatively inexpensive compared to underground / above ground rail.
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but can cable cars handle heavy passenger traffic and brutal wear and tear that occur to mass transport systems here in Manila, the tenth largest metropolis in Asia? La Paz and Medellin are not mega cities unlike Manila, which is why cable cars and other relatively "lighter" mass transport systems work there. whether we admit it or not, what Manila needs is a network of interconnected "heavy-duty" mass transport systems that can be found in other mega cities like Tokyo and New York.
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but can cable cars handle heavy passenger traffic and brutal wear and tear that occur to mass transport systems here in Manila, the tenth largest metropolis in Asia? La Paz and Medellin are not mega cities unlike Manila, which is why cable cars and other relatively "lighter" mass transport systems work there. whether we admit it or not, what Manila needs is a network of interconnected "heavy-duty" mass transport systems that can be found in other mega cities like Tokyo and New York.
Medellin Area
• Municipality Area 380.64 km2 (146.97 sq mi)
• Metro Area 1,152 km2 (445 sq mi)
• Total Area 1,532 km2 ( 591.97 sq mi)
• Pop 6,172,570

Lapaz Area
• Area City 472 km2 (182 sq mi)
• Area Urban 3,240 km2 (1,250 sq mi)
• Area(Total) 3712 km2 (1432 sq mi)
• Pop 3,241,598
• Cable Car capacity 18,000 PX / Hour (11 km)

MetroManila
• Area 613.94 km2 (237.04 sq mi)
• Pop 12,877,253



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Old June 28th, 2016, 05:32 AM   #20
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If the government are dead serious to have this kind of transportation?? they should have implement it to Baguio from Pugo up to downtown to La Trinidad and some other busy areas..
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