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Old July 3rd, 2016, 08:37 AM   #61
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Yes, in PNOY's time. I'm a daily MRT commuter and that's how I perceive it. Possibly, other commuters as well.

Well, everyone's hoping Duterte's admin will fix the government's image. Including this.
Just keep in mind Duterte's promise for the traffic situation is a timeline of 2 years so don't expect this gondola, the MRT3 situation, or all the other things that has to do with the traffic crisis to be resolved tomorrow or in 3 to 6 months. Plus he still needs to get his emergency powers from Congress before even the simple things like LGUs confiscating licenses, street vendors clogging up roads and jeepneys still causing congestion would be acted upon.
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56 times breakdown of MRT3 during Pnoy's term. :bop:

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Government are you referring to pNOY time ?

IN GMA time MRT-3 suffered one or two breakdowns every month AT MOST.. in pNOY time breakdowns has become a daily occurrence.
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56 times breakdown of MRT3 during Pnoy's term. :bop:
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I just heard it mentioned while watching one of the local late night news. I don't remember the name of the news anchor who said it.


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18k PX per hour for the existing three lines..(La Paz Bolivia )
18k/hr is a big help
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Old July 4th, 2016, 01:23 PM   #66
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Our incoming DOTC Secretary, Art Tugade, is so awesome with his "out of the box" thinking. One of the things he is proposing to help resolve the traffic in Metro Manila is the "Urban Gondola".

Urban gondolas to ease traffic



The Urban Gondola isn't in widespread use yet but the technology is fairly common in Europe and North America, usually seen in ski resorts. However, as a reference point, such system in La Paz, Bolivia is currently in use and seems to be doing well....

From Wikipedia...

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I'm been thinking about this as well, urban gondolas could connect Antipolo to LRT 2, and possibly even the Teresa and San Mateo areas?

They should be studying this, to hell with those killer jeeps and buses.
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Old July 4th, 2016, 03:24 PM   #67
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pati sa dagupan need na ng ganito with city's extremely crowded commercial bldgs, this will be a big help:
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malaki rin pala talaga downtown ng dagups, high dense talaga and rapidly expanding, nag over flow na nga sa calasiao at mangaldan, parang bago lahat ng mga bldgs na to, nung early 90's ats 2000's puro bahay lang mga to
medyo maaliwalas skyline dito kase konti cable ng kuryente at telepono. kulang na lang talaga luxury low rise condos.
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I'm been thinking about this as well, urban gondolas could connect Antipolo to LRT 2, and possibly even the Teresa and San Mateo areas?

They should be studying this, to hell with those killer jeeps and buses.
Yeah, this can connect the end points of LRT2 in Masinag and LRT4 in Taytay through the hills of Antipolo. So much potential, eh?
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I'm been thinking about this as well, urban gondolas could connect Antipolo to LRT 2, and possibly even the Teresa and San Mateo areas?

They should be studying this, to hell with those killer jeeps and buses.
Tama! Dapat mawala na yang mga jeep na iyan. Dalawang beses na akong muntik mahulog sa mga jeep na biyaheng Cubao - Antipolo na iyan. Hindi pa ako nakakababa, umaarangkada na.
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This is a really bad idea for Manila.

May be this can work in Baguio, or some parts of hilly cities. Knowing most Pinoys won't pay for the appropriate value of the service, construct this, give it a few years and it will rot, which makes it even more dangerous than MRT.

Du30 should just focus on fixing the bus (and probably jeepney) system, ensuring cars aren't parked at streets, and expanding and improving the train system to speed up traffic flow.

That his admin is even considering this for Manila is crazy. Such solution is better somewhere else.
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This is a really bad idea for Manila.

May be this can work in Baguio, or some parts of hilly cities. Knowing most Pinoys won't pay for the appropriate value of the service, construct this, give it a few years and it will rot, which makes it even more dangerous than MRT.

Du30 should just focus on fixing the bus (and probably jeepney) system, ensuring cars aren't parked at streets, and expanding and improving the train system to speed up traffic flow.

That his admin is even considering this for Manila is crazy. Such solution is better somewhere else.
all the mixing and fixing has failed...DU30 administration is thinking out of the box. Already there is a proof of concept in the case of BOLIVIA.
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all the mixing and fixing has failed...DU30 administration is thinking out of the box. Already there is a proof of concept in the case of BOLIVIA.
Agreed. The thing with the Urban Gondola is La Paz is the first city, to my knowledge, that took it upon themselves to use this technology, normally found in ski resorts, and turn it into mass rapid transit. La Paz is even more unplanned and challenging that Metro Manila in terms of their traffic issues, and given its a bit impoverished and all, they cannot really afford LRTs and subways. Their hills don't help either.

They manage to solve a major issue with the Urban Gondola, and now word is spreading on its success. Metro Manila has a similar issue, and even if they fix the jeepneys and the buses, you will still have a metro area of over 10 million people with private subdivisions and other bottle necks that will be impossible to get around without nuking the entire city. Sure, we can wait for that magical, mythical subway to be built, but we can at the very least supplement our existing mass transit lines with Urban Gondolas to fill in any gaps.

Do we have to wait for a decade for a subway to connect Makati CBD with BGC, or never for an MRT3 and MoA connection? Or do we just set up a cable car in a couple of years, a technology that already exists and in use in the Philippines?

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La Paz has a population of ~ 800k, I think someone needs to get of the meds or drugs if they thing a cable cart system would be a solution for the 3rd largest and fastest growing metro in south east Asia.

Only way is the hard way subways and elevated trains there are no short cuts.
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2.3m people in the metro La Paz metro but it's nothing like Manila and as you say its the most stupid of ideas.

The problem is everyone has gone gaga in the brain since Duterte mania swept the country and all rational and critical thought has ended and been replaced by praising every idea no matter how stupid.
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2.3m people in the metro La Paz metro but it's nothing like Manila and as you say its the most stupid of ideas.

The problem is everyone has gone gaga in the brain since Duterte mania swept the country and all rational and critical thought has ended and been replaced by praising every idea no matter how stupid.

what do you mean gaga in the brain... ? ikaw lang ba may monopoly sa SANITY ?


La Paz Bolivia Pop (2008)
• City 877,363
• Metro 2,364,235
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3,241,598

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La Paz has a population of ~ 800k, I think someone needs to get of the meds or drugs if they thing a cable cart system would be a solution for the 3rd largest and fastest growing metro in south east Asia.

Only way is the hard way subways and elevated trains there are no short cuts.
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2.3m people in the metro La Paz metro but it's nothing like Manila and as you say its the most stupid of ideas.

The problem is everyone has gone gaga in the brain since Duterte mania swept the country and all rational and critical thought has ended and been replaced by praising every idea no matter how stupid.
The urban gondola is to get people from lower places to higher places and back, we have that in Antipolo. It's not supposed to replace the MRT along EDSA, it's part of the system to efficiently transport people.
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Pwede ring gawing tourist attraction ang urban gondola Gaya ng proposal na ito para sa Chicago.

AN URBAN GONDOLA UNVEILED FOR THE CHICAGO SKYLINE BOOSTING CHICAGO’S TOURISM



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Cable car mass transport eyed in Davao City

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Jerome Ornopia, president and CEO of Cebu City's R3 Industrial Solutions Enterprises, Inc., told reporters in an interview Monday that they are introducing the aerial ropeway project to the City Council of Davao.

Ornopia has already finished the project's feasibility study for Cebu and is here in Davao to undertake another, hoping to implement the project here as well.

Doppelmayr's Transport Firm, the company's foreign partner, had already constructed one in Singapore but it was mainly used for tourism.
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Ornopia said the project in Cebu, which stretches from Lapu-Lapu City to Cebu City (passes through Mandaue City), could carry about 6,000 passengers an hour with each cable car carrying a maximum of 10.

He added that the total investment cost of the project in Cebu is estimated to be at P7 billion. If it will be approved this year, they will start the construction next year and it will take them between 16 to 18 months to finish.
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what do you mean gaga in the brain... ? ikaw lang ba may monopoly sa SANITY ?


La Paz Bolivia Pop (2008)
• City 877,363
• Metro2,364,235
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3,241,598

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Why you adding them together? If someone said the population of Manila is 1m and try population of Metro Manila is 3m would you add them together? No you wouldn't because clearly the metro figure includes all areas within the metro.

Trying to inflate the numbers to justify a point really doesn't work.
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what do you mean gaga in the brain... ? ikaw lang ba may monopoly sa SANITY ?


La Paz Bolivia Pop (2008)
• City 877,363
• Metro2,364,235
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This should not be added.
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