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Old March 31st, 2017, 08:26 PM   #21
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Option A, strongly indicated as the favourite, is remaining within the Olympiapark (below). Since Olympiastadion is off-limits as a historical monument, the proposal suggests a brand new football-specific stadium less than 250 meters east of it. This site is most likely to be accepted by Hertha fans, who have been considering Olympiapark as their home since 1963.
The Ludwigsfelde site is a complete non-starter. The transport links there may look good from afar. But in reality they are not. It takes at least an hour even under optimal conditions to disperse the 10'000 or 12'000 vehicles from the car park. And the rail links to town are abysmal to be honest. The 2 train-pairs per hours which run there are capable of moving just a small fraction of the PT-reliant crowd.
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Old May 22nd, 2017, 06:56 PM   #22
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Hertha BSC wants to build a new stadium. Lastly, Berlin's mayor proposed a possible rebuilding of the Olympiastadion. Now it was known that this could be a serious option.

Accordingly, a reconstruction of the Olympiastadion is fundamentally conceivable. This is the conclusion of a feasibility study, the result of which was announced in a joint statement by the city and the association. The Olympiastadion could in principle be modernized and become a pure football arena with steeper tribunes, which are drawn closer to the playing field. Recently, Berlin's mayor Michael Müller had already talked about a possible conversion (Stadionwelt reported).

The association and the Senate want to continue discussions in the coming weeks and examine the feasibility of a conversion more closely. To date, this option has not played a role in Hertha BSC's considerations. The association is striving for a new building on the grounds of the Olympiapark. A new stadium in the Ludwigsfelde in Brandenburg would be needed if there was no consent from the Senate.
http://www.stadionwelt.de/sw_stadien...&news_id=16480
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Old May 22nd, 2017, 10:22 PM   #23
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There was a first picture of how it could look.

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Where this picture was released?
Personally I didn't liked, but If it is the best option for Hertha...
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Old May 23rd, 2017, 08:53 AM   #25
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Where this picture was released?
Personally I didn't liked, but If it is the best option for Hertha...
They were in a local newspaper.

http://m.bild.de/sport/fussball/hertha-bsc/umbau-des-olympiastadions-dauert-mindestens-15-monate-51847792.bildMobile.html

I don't like the new one tier look.
Because Hertha needs a "Oberring", it's part of the atmosphere. ;-)
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Old May 23rd, 2017, 09:50 PM   #26
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Recently, Hertha BSC and the City of Berlin announced that a reconstruction of the Olympiastadion is fundamentally conceivable. Now, indoor host Geisel brought a temporary stadium as a transitional solution into play.

After Hertha BSC had only plans for a new building, a possible conversion of the Olympiastadion is now being discussed. The presented feasibility study assumes that an expansion is possible in principle (Stadionwelt reported). Berlin's interior designer, Andreas Geisel, now spoke of a transitional solution, for at least 15 months of construction, which would require such a reconstruction. Thus, a temporary stadium could be built on the Maifeld next to the Olympiastadion. This could be financed, as Hostage told the RBB. The Berlin newspaper reported about possible costs of 150 million euros. Furthermore, the Jahn-Sportpark in Prenzlauer Berg is a possible transitional playground.
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Old May 24th, 2017, 12:06 AM   #27
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I do not think they are going to destroy the architecture and history of a historic building to turn it into a vulgar football stadium.

In this site lived the best and worst of the Olympic movement: Hitler, the first Olympic flame, Owen, the 2006 World Cup of a great and free Germany ...

Its destiny is to be again European Olympic Stadium, after Paris 2024: The Olympic Games of Nazi relief.
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There was a first picture of how it could look.

Holy crikey that's ugly! At least have the decency to put in curved seating as opposed to literally putting a square peg into a round hole.

Egads.
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That render reeks of architectural homicide. An absolute travesty. Even so, I think GMP can pull off something at least decent, or just as epic as the renovation they did for the World Cup. They'll have to fast track it if they want it to be the centerpiece of their 2024 Euro bid, though.
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If Berlin does not want to lose the stadium as a premium athletics facility, a new stadium still seems the best solution to me. Possibly located closer to the city center than the current Olympiastadion. The current stadium is an icon as it is, and should best remain untouched.
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If Berlin does not want to lose the stadium as a premium athletics facility, a new stadium still seems the best solution to me. Possibly located closer to the city center than the current Olympiastadion. The current stadium is an icon as it is, and should best remain untouched.
There is no place where a new stadium could be build in the city of berlin. That's why they're thinking of building it in the state of Brandenburg, Ludwigsfelde. That's 35km off the centre of Berlin.
But theres alot of opposition, because it's too far away and not Berlin anymore.
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Can Tempelhof Airport/site be redeveloped?
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Can Tempelhof Airport/site be redeveloped?
There was a public vote for not building anything on there and use it as a big public park like area.
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Old May 25th, 2017, 07:41 PM   #34
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Why this boring architecture? Think a little bit bigger, Hertha and Berlin! Berlin does not deserve a boring football stadium like that and I think Hertha could sign some better players with a more unique designed stadium.
today almost any stadium look the same, high tiers all around, a huge roof that doesn't all the sunlight to illuminate the field, period.

btw this will be a big wast of money, why don't keep playin at the magnificent historic Olympiastadion??
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The new stadium plan is better. Please do not mutilate such a beautiful stadium.

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btw this will be a big wast of money, why don't keep playin at the magnificent historic Olympiastadion??

Why did Bayern Munchen build Allianz Arena when they could play in Munich's Olympiastadion? Because stadiums with running tracks are awful places to watch football.
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Why did Bayern Munchen build Allianz Arena when they could play in Munich's Olympiastadion? Because stadiums with running tracks are awful places to watch football.
from an architectonic point of view Olympiastadion is gorgeous
they could have dig the pitch to get a new ring of tiers to eliminate the track...
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Can Tempelhof Airport/site be redeveloped?
No, between the Cathedral and the new Berliner Schloss .. best in the Reichstag gardens ..

It seems that here is not known much or nothing history and architecture associated ... a festival of barbarities.
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A not-so-small detail I haven't seen in this thread is that, according to the article(s) (or at least according to the automatic translation), the monument protection for the Olympiastadion itself covers the upper tier and the exterior of the venue. The entire lower tier, being a completely new structure, is not under monument protection and can be demolished without any hassle, thus facilitating a football conversion. Can anyone confirm this?
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A not-so-small detail I haven't seen in this thread is that, according to the article(s) (or at least according to the automatic translation), the monument protection for the Olympiastadion itself covers the upper tier and the exterior of the venue. The entire lower tier, being a completely new structure, is not under monument protection and can be demolished without any hassle, thus facilitating a football conversion. Can anyone confirm this?
Yes, that's right. It was written in the press.

But it's complicated to rebuild a modern stadium in, because you can't get more than 25,4° of the upper old tier.
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