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Old October 5th, 2018, 11:37 AM   #1
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Manila - Laguna Cargo Railway Revival Planned

The Department of Transportation said it plans to revive the operation of a container cargo rail from Port Area in Manila to Laguna province.

The agency said it was looking at reopening the tracks towards the berths of Manila International Container Terminal and Manila North Harbor to restart the container cargo service between MICT to Laguna Gateway Inland Container Terminal in Calamba, Laguna.
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Old October 5th, 2018, 01:51 PM   #2
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The Department of Transportation said it plans to revive the operation of a container cargo rail from Port Area in Manila to Laguna province.

The agency said it was looking at reopening the tracks towards the berths of Manila International Container Terminal and Manila North Harbor to restart the container cargo service between MICT to Laguna Gateway Inland Container Terminal in Calamba, Laguna.

Pwede because Osmeña and Roxas are loaded with cargo trucks. I read that they want to make this operational by 2022. If they really want to make this happen in four years start now because usually ROW issues are a big hindrance before it can start like the Cavite Extension any sometimes other issues arise out of the blue.
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Old October 5th, 2018, 02:27 PM   #3
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Ilang set at wagons per set kaya ang kailangan?
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Kailangan ito para mabawasan ang mga truck
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Old October 6th, 2018, 06:28 AM   #5
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Kasama ba dito yung nasa Recto/Dagupan st kasi dati nung maliit ako meron pa akong nakikitang riles pagtawid doon sa tapat ng 168Mall?
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Old October 6th, 2018, 02:49 PM   #6
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Kasama ba dito yung nasa Recto/Dagupan st kasi dati nung maliit ako meron pa akong nakikitang riles pagtawid doon sa tapat ng 168Mall?
Malamang, i-rerestore yan. Wala naman ibang dadaanan talaga, kundi sa gitna ng Recto. Tapos papasok sa Tutuban para magamit ang PNR lines....
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Old October 7th, 2018, 11:30 AM   #7
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The Department of Transportation said it plans to revive the operation of a container cargo rail from Port Area in Manila to Laguna province.

The agency said it was looking at reopening the tracks towards the berths of Manila International Container Terminal and Manila North Harbor to restart the container cargo service between MICT to Laguna Gateway Inland Container Terminal in Calamba, Laguna.
2 years ago pa nirerequest ng MRAIL yan, nag offer pa na sila gagastos ng palagay ng tracks dyan sa section na yan and mag provide ng rolling stocks. tapos after 2 years, plans parin? ang kabagalan ba eh namamana from one DOTr sec to another?
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Old October 8th, 2018, 08:05 AM   #8
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Marami na naman na squatters along the track.
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Old October 8th, 2018, 02:01 PM   #9
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Old October 9th, 2018, 11:53 AM   #11
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about time we have this, sa Magallanes pa lang lagi na lang choke point dahil sa mga malalaking truck kaya hindi makalusot ibang sasakyan.
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Ilang set at wagons per set kaya ang kailangan?
Last time, it was 40 TEUs (Twenty-foot container Equivalent Unit) or a maximum of 20 flatbed cars + 1 caboose. (A flatbed car can accommodate 1 x 40-footer container or 2 x 20-footer containers.) They planned to increase capacity to 80 TEUs (40 flatbed cars) but the current rail infra can not sustain the load. Eventually, they pulled out because they could not make a profit.
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Old October 10th, 2018, 10:22 AM   #13
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Not to mention the squatters turned ICTSI's cargo line into one gigantic mobile roving garbage bin.

Sino naman gaganahan mag operate sa ganun, umalis ng Pier o Cabuyao ang linis, pagdating sa Cabuyao o pagbalik ng Pier puro basura na dala nila.

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Pero it was good thinking from Enrique Razon not to sell that ICD in Cabuyao.
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[IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/smilies/previous.gif[/IMG] Not to mention the squatters turned ICTSI's cargo line into one gigantic mobile roving garbage bin.

Sino naman gaganahan mag operate sa ganun, umalis ng Pier o Cabuyao ang linis, pagdating sa Cabuyao o pagbalik ng Pier puro basura na dala nila.

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Pero it was good thinking from Enrique Razon not to sell that ICD in Cabuyao.

Sana mala Singapore tayo walang mga squatters na pinapangit ang hitsura ng lugar at malinis at may disiplina mga tao kung hinde magbabayad ka. Kaya yung mga tao dun magtatapon ng basura nila sa basurahan at di nagyoyosi at spitting atbp. Kaya napakalinis at ganda tignan ng lugar nila.
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Old October 11th, 2018, 08:11 AM   #15
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Sana mala Singapore tayo walang mga squatters na pinapangit ang hitsura ng lugar at malinis at may disiplina mga tao kung hinde magbabayad ka. Kaya yung mga tao dun magtatapon ng basura nila sa basurahan at di nagyoyosi at spitting atbp. Kaya napakalinis at ganda tignan ng lugar nila.

1. Mag martial law muna tayo, SG style;
2. No strikes nor minimum wage
3. No term limits on politicians

Then, mala-Singapore tayo!
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1. Mag martial law muna tayo, SG style;
2. No strikes nor minimum wage
3. No term limits on politicians

Then, mala-Singapore tayo!
1. Martial Law was never declared in SG
2. Impossible and you cannot suppress the liberty of workers
3. Since when was Oligarchy beneficial to the Philippines?

All the things you mentioned were the opposite of what SG did.
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1. Martial Law was never declared in SG
2. Impossible and you cannot suppress the liberty of workers
3. Since when was Oligarchy beneficial to the Philippines?

All the things you mentioned were the opposite of what SG did.
1. Martial Law WAS declared in Singapore....

The Singapore Free Press and Mercantile Advertiser, 31 December 1941, Page 6
Source: http://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspap...b19411231.2.77

2. No strikes in Singapore

WHY CAN’T WE STRIKE IN SINGAPORE?
Source: http://www.fivestarsandamoon.com/201...-in-singapore/

3. No minimum wage in Singapore

Why Singapore has no minimum wage
Source: https://andyxianwong.wordpress.com/2...-minimum-wage/

Sorry bro, but this is the truth....
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Old October 14th, 2018, 05:39 AM   #18
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1. Martial Law WAS declared in Singapore....

The Singapore Free Press and Mercantile Advertiser, 31 December 1941, Page 6
Source: http://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspap...b19411231.2.77

2. No strikes in Singapore

WHY CAN’T WE STRIKE IN SINGAPORE?
Source: http://www.fivestarsandamoon.com/201...-in-singapore/

3. No minimum wage in Singapore

Why Singapore has no minimum wage
Source: https://andyxianwong.wordpress.com/2...-minimum-wage/

Sorry bro, but this is the truth....
1. Let me remind you what happened in 1941, Japanese invasion of Asia-Pacific. Since WW2, Singapore never declared martial law.

2. There are strikes and it's not illegal or prohibited.

Source:https://vulcanpost.com/231771/10-thi...bour-movement/

3. True however this means a workers wage will be determined by the firm where he/she is employed at. I don't know how this would work in a Philippine setting considering that there are a lot of labor code violations.

Sorry, but this is also the reality
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Old October 14th, 2018, 05:41 PM   #19
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Welcome news less cargo trucks on the motorways with direct delivery of raw materials from other islands or overseas delivered to Industrial Zones (Calamba, Cabuyao, Sta Rosa) while processed or finished automobiles, semi conductors, food and cosmetics can be conveyed to the Sea Port of Manila... now if it can be connected to the Sea Port of Batangas and the Fish Ports of Quezon (Lucena, Calauag, Tagkawayan - Infanta is closer to Central Luzon) that would be a dream with fresh produce and fish and handicraft for export delivered to NCR...

If only Cruise Liners will dock in Manila and leaving Subic and Batangas Ports with receiving and dispatching cargoes?
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Last time, it was 40 TEUs (Twenty-foot container Equivalent Unit) or a maximum of 20 flatbed cars + 1 caboose. (A flatbed car can accommodate 1 x 40-footer container or 2 x 20-footer containers.) They planned to increase capacity to 80 TEUs (40 flatbed cars) but the current rail infra can not sustain the load. Eventually, they pulled out because they could not make a profit.
We badly need this.

We're always banning trucks from the road which is affecting manufacturing, if this is in place a lot of deliveries will be faster and on time.

If the investment is making it impossible for a private firm to undertake the upgrade of the tracks, then it is the government who should spend for the upgrade, or at least have a share.
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