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Old January 21st, 2007, 03:24 AM   #1021
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Well I never... a whole website dedicated to it.

Yep Land Secs, Like British Land dont muck around. They have there development pipelines & are constantly looking towards the medium & long term. If the P.I goes well this should be complete by 2011 particuarly as there only other city scheme in One New Change, which is a JV & the office elemnet is not to large. 1Wood St is pre-let which leaves this & Dashwood house.
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Old January 21st, 2007, 03:27 AM   #1022
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There's actually a lot of unseen renders there.
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Old January 21st, 2007, 03:34 AM   #1023
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I have to admit, that aerial rendering is groovy... from certain angles it does look rather cool.

Maybe this tower can grow on me. And like I said, just before the previous thread was closed - it has the best viewing platform of any proposal I've seen. Even better than LBT.
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Old January 21st, 2007, 09:08 AM   #1024
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its just so ugly

it would be ok if it didnt have so much of a huge bulge at the top.

i mean seriously who acctually wants this being built?
i would much rather has a groundscraper then this. (i never thought id ever say that)
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Old January 21st, 2007, 11:13 AM   #1025
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what would we do without you?

Some other rendering taken from this website (some seen before):

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Last one is print screen of the movie:

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Inquiry will commence on 6 March 2007.

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Old January 21st, 2007, 11:48 AM   #1026
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If it gets built, it will utterly ruin what was turning out be a world class selection of slender skyscrapers in the city cluster...

... I'll still go up to the sky gardens mind you, perhaps someone can devise a way of building the gardens at that altitude without the fat monster holding it up beneath... hmmm.
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Old January 21st, 2007, 01:40 PM   #1027
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I have to admit, that aerial rendering is groovy... from certain angles it does look rather cool.

Maybe this tower can grow on me. And like I said, just before the previous thread was closed - it has the best viewing platform of any proposal I've seen. Even better than LBT.
It's growing on me. I still have reservations about the top, but I think with a bit more adjustment it will be better.

I don't think anyone would mind if it was actually in the cluster as it would blend much better and appear alot shorter next to the taller towers.
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Old January 21st, 2007, 01:43 PM   #1028
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If it gets built, it will utterly ruin what was turning out be a world class selection of slender skyscrapers in the city cluster...

... I'll still go up to the sky gardens mind you, perhaps someone can devise a way of building the gardens at that altitude without the fat monster holding it up beneath... hmmm.
As Gothic has said before, if it gets built, it will most likely be joined by others during the next property cycle. It won't be alone for long, and I feel when more towers are proposed in the area it will fit much better.
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Old January 21st, 2007, 01:45 PM   #1029
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I think in the long-term there should only be one big cluster. Hence the shape of the roof.
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Old January 21st, 2007, 01:47 PM   #1030
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One day it could all join up. It may take a couple of property cycles, but I think it will happen. There isn't that much space between 20 Fenchurch and The main cluster
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Old January 21st, 2007, 01:53 PM   #1031
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That's one of the best skyscraper websites I've ever seen. I'm 100% behind this tower now
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Old January 21st, 2007, 02:21 PM   #1032
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No the low rise stuff on the riverbank looks good its just the towers. Bishopsgate Tower looks terrible and 20 Fenchurch.
bishopsgate looks terrible?? well its been said before and ill say it again, each to their own!! i knew this building would grow on alot of people, i think it had something to do with the quality of the old renders, it looked more like a cartoon building on the skyline but once we got that new, high quality render, it actualy started to look like a proper photo. also people are still having reservations about the top of the tower, i think they will be forgoten when people are in that skygarden.
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Old January 21st, 2007, 02:48 PM   #1033
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I liked it first.

Everyone else that decides they like is are just copying me.
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Old January 21st, 2007, 03:33 PM   #1034
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Land Sec has appointed leasing agents at Knight Frank. I am puzzled: Land Sec seems confident to obtain planning permission. I would have said the opposite.

The inquiry will start on 6 March 2007. If a decision is given by the end of the year - as the insepctor said - they could start construction in early 2008. The existing building would probably be demolished by that thime. They just need a minor prelet to go ahead. Floorplates have been designed for UK/US lawyers and financials. Maybe they have already concluded some kind of arrangements with these lawyer firms... They seem so confident. I am puzzled.
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Old January 21st, 2007, 05:19 PM   #1035
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interesting, so in fact due to the demolition, the inquiry might not actually have that much of a delay should it be successful!
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Old January 21st, 2007, 06:39 PM   #1036
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what are you puzzled about. the govt's reaction to unesco is to show them the planning system has checks and balances to protect the tower. a public inquiry won by land sec serves govt policy perfectly.
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Old January 21st, 2007, 07:58 PM   #1037
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It looks very appealing at ground level from those pics and I still like the shape but I have to say the side cladding I'm not so sure about. We don't want every tower in the City to have this T42 style pin striped side cladding...am holding judgement at the moment.
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Old January 22nd, 2007, 02:58 PM   #1038
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Definately gone up in my estimation this tower.
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Old January 22nd, 2007, 03:39 PM   #1039
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By the beard of zeus. i loved this before i saw its fantastic website, this building's awesome. I think the render's make it look quite a bit bigger than 160 meters though and sometimes it looks a bit overbearing because of it.

is the sky garden going to be open to the public? probably not. what an amazing place. I know buildings can't be veiwed objectively but i'm sure if it gets built all the doubters will suddenly come round when they realise what an asset this will be to the skyline.
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Old January 22nd, 2007, 03:41 PM   #1040
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Gotta say after reading this thread and the website it's certainly growing on me!
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