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Old March 22nd, 2011, 03:41 PM   #61
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Interesting. Do you have some pictures?
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Old March 24th, 2011, 08:12 AM   #62
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Portland is brilliant and in start contrast to Seattle which should be better but is blighted by Cape Town stylker foreshore multi deck freeways complely cutting oiff the water from teh city
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Old March 25th, 2011, 01:24 PM   #63
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Between 2004 and 2009 I went through a process with the City sending in a proposal for the foreshore highways site, that icluded their completition, excluded their completion, made use of the existing structures as entrance and exit points to the Eastern Boulevard, used the lanes from the N1 as well, took into account the possible cruise liner terminal, brt system, etc.

We had even taken into acount that if we included public parking in the development the City would be able to remove kirb side parking to a large extent within the City centre meaning free flowing traffic in the likes of long street, more public walkway space within the City, possible beautification in all road ways and helping to instil a culture of the usae of public transport within the city centre.

It was a Green Building project that would have provided public open space between the highways which would have provided the link between the City and the sea.

Which if I might add is a historical connection due to the mail ships and nothing more or less. Today due to the harbour that connection is almost impossible, so we need to find an alternative way of linking the City with the Sea.

The proposal went all over the City of Cape Town from Heads of Departments, Mayoral committee members, CCID and to the then Mayor Helen Zille and back with very little movement on the subject.

The easiest solution to this situation is to create a mixed use development using green building principles with the constraints that the existing freeways provide. One that solves potential problems the City may face in the coming years
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Old March 25th, 2011, 01:38 PM   #64
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That ugly foreshore freeway is going to be there for a long time. The local government has not commitment to do anything in short and medium term. The premier already said that no road is going to be build unless it is necessary and will drive economic growth!
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Old May 15th, 2012, 03:11 PM   #65
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I'm making a documentary about these bridges. Tell me how you feel about them by responding on this poll. http://bit.ly/The_CapeTown_Bridge or reply on this post with creative ideas. Thanks
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Old July 10th, 2012, 09:06 AM   #66
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Wish we'd do something creative with our flyovers like what they did in Germany!

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Old July 10th, 2012, 10:26 AM   #67
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Wish we'd do something creative with our flyovers like what they did in Germany!
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Old September 13th, 2012, 10:42 AM   #68
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Cape Town wants to complete controversial Foreshore freeway
THURSDAY SEP 13, 2012

The City of Cape Town, with the help of University of Cape Town (UCT) engineering students, is hoping to find a viable design to complete the unfinished Foreshore freeway.

Yesterday, the transport, roads and stormwater portfolio committee approved the proposal to enter into an agreement with UCT to look at the potential of completing the unfinished freeway.

It has remained incomplete for many years due to lack of funding.

Students from the university's engineering and built environment faculty will be asked draft innovative design proposals for the incomplete freeway in a way that will improve access to the city.

Mayco member for transport, roads and stormwater Brett Herron said the partnership with UCT would be formally launched on October 18 as part of Transport Month.

The students' research will cover the economic, technical, structural and design viability of the potential completion of the freeway. It will also look at the investment and development potential, infrastructure capacity and a financial model for the completion of the freeway.

Herron said the students would report back to the city by August, while the city's aim was to issue a tender for the completion of the freeway by the beginning of 2014.

"This project will draw a lot of interest from many stakeholders and we see this as an exciting legacy project that will change the landscape of the city. We need make sure we engage and involve as many people as possible in the city," Herron said.

He said the initiative also created an opportunity for the final design concept to be showcased as a project in the World Design Capital 2014, with Cape Town as the host city.

The proposal for the partnership with UCT will be submitted to the council for approval later this month.

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Old September 13th, 2012, 10:43 AM   #69
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Magnificent news!
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Old September 13th, 2012, 10:49 AM   #70
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I actually really hope they don't complete them and instead either demolish the unfinished sections, or turn them into something else (like the museum proposed by Tai Design Studio). Imagine how nasty it's going to look having flyovers above Buitengracht Street as you enter the city It'll be all dark and dingy underneath them and after a couple of years they will start ageing and looking all gross like the current flyovers.
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Old September 13th, 2012, 10:59 AM   #71
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I wonder if there is any possibility that they can redesign the look of the free ways. I don't think they would seriously consider completing them in their current guise. What if they lift them up and make them more skinny, similar to the Koeberg interchange flyovers? Not sure if that would actually be possible without demolishing half of what was done already though
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Old September 13th, 2012, 11:09 AM   #72
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The only way I can imagine you can complete the Foreshore Freeways between Table Bay Blvd (N1/N2) and Helen Suzman Blvd (M6), is to go grand. When you can't hide infrastructure, you flaunt it.

The only way forward is to do something like going the cable-stayed options with a higher clearance, aesthetic LED lighting and make it a "gateway" between the Waterfront and City. Thus, creating a "door" rather than a "blockage" to keep the passageway open between the city and sea and not further cut it off from it

Obviously, a higher clearance version of below over land, but you get the point:


My other option is cut-and-cover tunnels like the Boston Big Dig. That would be ideal, but highly unlikely as it's damn expensive!
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Old September 13th, 2012, 11:18 AM   #73
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I also think finishing it is not a good idea. It's going to be an eye sore.
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Old September 13th, 2012, 12:27 PM   #74
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I think the option to complete the freeways should be investigated further.

If they are to be completed, it must look good or have similar aesthetic objectives as mentioned by Annman. Only problem- in CT, we do not do "huge" and "iconic" easily.

Either way- Expect drama
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Old September 13th, 2012, 01:28 PM   #75
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Go bridge..or go home , thats what I say on this one!
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Old September 13th, 2012, 01:33 PM   #76
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I must agree...some sort of iconic bridge type structure would look good if done right.
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Old September 13th, 2012, 01:35 PM   #77
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Or turn it into an urban park type complex. Maybe stairs up, coffee shops, art installations.
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Old September 13th, 2012, 01:53 PM   #78
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With infrastructure that is not subterranean, unfortunately it is iconic, or an eyesore. It's the way it works.

Rule number one in design or architecture: Can't hide it, flaunt it! Unfortunately, that's a concept the conservative NIMBY uber-heritage set will never grasp.

This was a synopsis I posted on Twitter simply to illustrate, think FutureCapeTown may have had something similar at their voting booth:

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Old September 14th, 2012, 10:15 AM   #79
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I support using Boston Big Dig way... but it will never happen. Too expensive
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Old September 14th, 2012, 10:31 AM   #80
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Annman- totally agree with you- do it with style. Create a bridge or some architectural interest ib it. Wow the possibilities are all there. Hope this does go ahead! Complete it and build the foreshore and Culemborg with new buildings and separate a lane for the Rea Vaya system too! All those cranes show confidence in the CBD again)
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