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Old September 23rd, 2019, 07:15 PM   #61
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Is it only me or is this starting to look more like the original design of Rafter?
Agree, a pretty simple box of a building, and then create all these optical illusions to the fašade as an attempt to break up the massing. So far, this building seems more successful. Bisecting the complex with an upper level terrace connecting both buildings also helps (really the coolest, most distinguishing feature of the project IMO)

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Old September 23rd, 2019, 07:28 PM   #62
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Is it only me or is this starting to look more like the original design of Rafter?
I thought the same thing. The design change, height reduction, and from the looks of it, the addition of cheaper materials - overall, a significant downgrade.
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Old September 23rd, 2019, 07:45 PM   #63
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For the taller tower, it's imperative the developer use the corten steel rather than the downgrade option of crappy precast. It will make a big difference on whether the design is successful or not.
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Old September 24th, 2019, 07:02 AM   #64
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Stack 'em! Just put the residential over the office....Oh, that's right I've said it before!
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Stack 'em! Just put the residential over the office....Oh, that's right I've said it before!
I understand the desire for another iconic tall tower that improves our skyline, but after living in London and visiting Vancouver I found that having many shorter buildings as opposed to a few tall ones greatly increased vibrancy and density. I'd love for a supertall in our city, and one day we'll probably get one, but I think getting as many of these 200-400 foot infills as we can will actually be what makes our city feel vibrant, dense and exciting!
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Old September 24th, 2019, 05:38 PM   #66
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Not only that, I don't think this is the right place for something with 600-700 ft height or higher.
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Old September 24th, 2019, 06:41 PM   #67
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North Green is a decent height, and given its location at the far southeast corner of The North Loop by the Twins Stadium, LRT station, etc , it looks appropriate. The step down from the 35 story residential tower to the 15 story office building creates a nicely proportioned transition from the CBD/ Downtown West to the North Loop. Anything taller would look awkward.
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Im fine with a 400 foot tower. There is no way a 600-700 footer would pass today in this area. Now maybe in the future if this gets built and sets a precedent for towers in this part of the city.
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Really given Minneapolis' market size/demographics, no developer would ever propose something that large in this area. It's not economically feasible.
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There is unequivocally no way a tower of 600 feet would pass in the North Loop, at least today, per uptownbro's point. There is already opposition to North Loop Green's height as it stands right now.

The "Feedback Requested" from the next Committee of the Whole meeting on Thursday is only one item: 1. What are your overall thoughts on the scale, massing and height of the development?

Let's hope this meeting goes well and there are no additional reductions
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