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Old August 21st, 2015, 08:04 PM   #81
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If this is downscaled, I shall .
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Express and Star: A detailed planning application has been submitted to Birmingham City Council following months of consultation meetings
Big if the E&S did research this properly, then the consultation with BCC should have flushed out anything that would be objectionable from a planning point of view. Therefore consent should be straightforward. Downscaling would only come from the investors themselves, and given the timescale - end of 2016??? - this looks unlikely.
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Old August 21st, 2015, 08:11 PM   #82
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Big if the E&S did research this properly, then the consultation with BCC should have flushed out anything that would be objectionable from a planning point of view. Therefore consent should be straightforward. Downscaling would only come from the investors themselves, and given the timescale - end of 2016??? - this looks unlikely.



Now this is the kind of post I want to be reading on this forum.

It makes me want to jump up in the air like a crazy American, in an audience of crazy Americans, shouting 'Woah' or 'Yeah' or 'Alright'.

More posts like this please.
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Old August 21st, 2015, 09:48 PM   #83
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I'm confused as to why this looks unlikely?
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Old August 21st, 2015, 10:28 PM   #84
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How did I miss this?

Love the new renders. So much nicer than the old hodgepodge tower.
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Old August 21st, 2015, 10:57 PM   #85
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I'm confused as to why this looks unlikely?


I`m not suggesting it will be downscaled Josh but that I will be extremely upset if it is. The sort of upset that involves my body mass increasing substantially as I rip my clothes off and turn green.
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Old August 22nd, 2015, 08:46 PM   #86
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Bloody hell they are not wasting any time getting this in the public domain.

Letter today posted through my door at The Brollyworks signed by the one and only Waheed Nazir asking for public comments on this by the 9th September including the construction of a 30 STOREY TOWER
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Old August 22nd, 2015, 09:07 PM   #87
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If this is downscaled, I shall .
Starting to get me worried now. Birmingham is hardly Oxford with a really unimpressive skyline, it really does need some signature tall buildings to give us that wow factor when people arrive and walk around.
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Old August 22nd, 2015, 10:19 PM   #88
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Starting to get me worried now. Birmingham is hardly Oxford with a really unimpressive skyline, it really does need some signature tall buildings to give us that wow factor when people arrive and walk around.


I refer you to post #85 Tony.

That said, aren`t most of the tall buildings that are proposed downscaled by the planning department.

Hopefully though, months of consultation with the council mean that any kinks were ironed out before the planning app was lodged.

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Old August 24th, 2015, 12:18 AM   #89
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Need to hope that top part doesn't look like the awful rear of Beetham Manc. It would really blight St. Martins and Selfridges if they get that bit wrong.



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Bloody hell that looks awful.
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Old August 24th, 2015, 01:43 AM   #90
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yup it does look awful


I never understood when people criticised beetham manc, always assumed somewhat out of jelousy on the height but that does look horrible, I'm glad we got our HCT instead, I know people hate the back silver bits but I personally think it's great, just tge holiday Inn and NCP adjoining that put it down
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Old August 24th, 2015, 03:43 AM   #91
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I just hope Phase 2 doesn't get valued engineered to death like Phase 1....
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Old August 24th, 2015, 05:55 PM   #92
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Am l to believe that that ( famed for being the worst beetham Manc' ever posted as it looks like the open windows have been blown-out) pic is the first time people have clapped eyes on the building? I totally agree that it divides opinion but also know that there are many amazing shots of it that show it in a far better light. Suffice to say that it cost 150 million to build (and that was 10 yrs back) so pray for a much higher budget project if you expect not to have a bllighted skyline due to building cost constraints. Some say that Brum' is blighted by a 498ft elevator core but personally l have always liked it and see much of the sour grapes against it as prejudice just like Beetham recieves up here. lt's all subjective really as we all know.
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Old August 24th, 2015, 06:39 PM   #93
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We are sorry. Beetham is the most beautiful tower ever and we are all immensely jealous of the world city that Manchester is. To think, if it wasn't for Beetham, Manchester would be a UNESCO world heritage city* by now!

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Some questioned its dominant appearance over the city – particularly over listed buildings with one author going as far to say the skyscraper instantly "torpedoed" any possibility of Manchester becoming a UNESCO World Heritage city.[14]
*Other world heritage sites include Vienna, Rio de Janeiro, The Rock-hewn Churches of Ivanovo, Liverpool (well done and well deserved), Dubrovnik, Old Havana, Ancient Thebes and our very own Ironbridge Gorge.
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I really Like Beetham Manc
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Old August 24th, 2015, 08:30 PM   #95
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Old August 24th, 2015, 09:04 PM   #97
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I like the scale and its silhouette, but it looks really scruffy as you can see the rubbish the resident pile up against the windows. A bit like they do in the Rotunda, only on a much more obvious scale.
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Old August 24th, 2015, 10:11 PM   #98
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So there you go bugbyte. It is a building that splits opinions as l said. And l appreciate the Brummie contrbucontributors who underlined for me that it doesn't just split opinions in Manchester. And as for opinions l firmly believe everybody has a right to them. lncluding yourself. Just try and keep from using that sausage-sharp wit to reinforce your obvious bile against Manchester as all of my ribs remain firmly intact.
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Brum's Natwest tower (existing one) seems to split opinions too,and l've always liked it's brutalism and l am sure that people campaigned tosave it. l will miss it too l think.
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Old August 24th, 2015, 11:17 PM   #100
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And there was me expecting to read about Boerma Quarter. Stupid me...
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