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Old February 15th, 2016, 02:46 AM   #61
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I recently bought a photo of downtown Minneapolis at a thrift store and I'm wondering if I could get some help with the year it was taken. So far I've narrowed it down from 1981-1992. In 2014 I took a photo from the exact same location and I plan on doing a photo comparison between the two and framing them together.

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Here's the photo I took from the same place in 2014.

Minneapolis '14 by AboveTheNorm, on Flickr

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Old February 15th, 2016, 03:47 AM   #62
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Can't help you with a year other than the Meridan is open so that would close the gap to closer to the mid-2000's than the 90's I think.

EDIT: Ok the Foshey/W opened in 2008. The Meridan opened in 2006. The W was proposed in 2006 which was the year the Meridan opened to rave reviews. Both were developed by Ralph W. Burnet. Both were sold this past years as a pair together for $101 M.

That is a hard shot as most of the skyline changes happened behind the wall of towers to the front of picture. Most of the changes that would have help clarify a year better are hidden from view at this angle. So your looking at 2006 or later for this photo.

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Old February 15th, 2016, 03:55 AM   #63
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The link didn't work for me. But, based on the towers I see in your picture, you can tell the date by which skyscrapers are visible. The City Center buildings were completed in 1982, Wells Fargo Ctr (formerly Norwest Center was about 1988), Lincoln Center (Anderson Consulting Tower) would be about 1987. These years are approximate, you can get better dates from Emporis.
Anyway, if you can post a copy of the photo, I'd like to see it.
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Old February 15th, 2016, 04:05 AM   #64
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Here's the photo.

Also, I realize that I was wrong about the years! I have no idea when this was taken.
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Old February 15th, 2016, 04:08 AM   #65
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Sorry was looking at wrong photo, can't see the older one that you are interested in.
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Old February 15th, 2016, 04:16 AM   #66
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Geez, here, I uploaded it on Flickr. I'm not very good at posting things on this website. Sorry about the issues.

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Old February 15th, 2016, 04:20 AM   #67
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Hmm. Probably 1989 since ATT isn't there yet

but LaSalle is there? Emporis has them both being completed in 1991
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Old February 15th, 2016, 05:19 AM   #68
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Yeah, that is odd. However, I do see a crane where AT&T would be under construction and I don't see any signage for Palomino or Rock Bottom, so perhaps LaSalle was still being completed. I also wondered if The LaSalle Plaza building was a rendering, because it looks like there are no lights on in windows, but there appear to be exterior accent lights.
My guess is 1990
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Old February 15th, 2016, 05:37 AM   #69
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The green tree Neon signs on the 8th and Nicollet building,( MTM studio shot at beginning of show). That would have been before or during the Savings and Loan Crisis that brought down Midwest Federal, the green trees on top of the building's corporate signs.
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Old February 15th, 2016, 05:51 AM   #70
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Midwest Federal went under in 1989. I forgot how lovely the Procolor buikding on Hennepin was, before Chambers.
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Old February 15th, 2016, 05:54 AM   #71
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Also, LaSalle opened in 91, and I think the Y opened jut a bit later. The State Theater doesn't look complete, which reopened in winter 1991.
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This looks to be Photoshop. So prior to 1991 and likely a marketing image. (Note the odd "out of place" quality of the base of the tower (the YMCA portion of the building) and the very slight perspective mis-alignment of the tower to City Center.) So I'm guessing it was created before the building broke ground. Which would put it at around 1989.

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Old February 15th, 2016, 07:03 PM   #73
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But they didn't include any searchlights or dramatic lighting.
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Old February 15th, 2016, 09:39 PM   #74
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I had a very small part in constructing Lasalle Plaza designed by local talent Ellerbe Beckett. A beautiful structure as it is. Imagine adding 25 to 30 stories. Would have joined the big 3, another masterpiece on our skyline.
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Old February 15th, 2016, 11:20 PM   #75
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I had a very small part in constructing Lasalle Plaza designed by local talent Ellerbe Beckett. A beautiful structure as it is. Imagine adding 25 to 30 stories. Would have joined the big 3, another masterpiece on our skyline.
It's a lovely complement and homage to Wells Fargo on the skyline. The interior of the Lasalle Plaza complex is beautiful as well. The way they integrated The State Theater and YMCA into the design is wonderful. One of our best...
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Old February 15th, 2016, 11:24 PM   #76
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Kind of cool (but also a bit disappointing) to look at the before and after of downtown from those two photos to see how relatively little has changed in almost 30 years.

There's been some infill of parking lots and a couple of low-impact towers added, but overall doesn't look too different.
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Old February 16th, 2016, 04:01 AM   #77
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Kind of cool (but also a bit disappointing) to look at the before and after of downtown from those two photos to see how relatively little has changed in almost 30 years.

There's been some infill of parking lots and a couple of low-impact towers added, but overall doesn't look too different.
As I said in an earlier post. From that angle the city appears to stand still. But if you look from the NE you can see many changes that have happened over the years. NE and E show a lot more changes than if you look from the SW or West,
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Old February 16th, 2016, 04:06 AM   #78
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Yeah, you can't see the Capella Tower, 5th Street Towers, RBC, Target HQ or the Carlyle in the new photo (or the 5th Street Towers were probably there at the time of the photo?)
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Old February 16th, 2016, 04:51 AM   #79
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Thanks for the responses guys! I agree, a lot of change hasn't been made when look at the city from this angle. I feel like every other corner of the city it'd be apparent that Minneapolis has seen a lot of development in the last 20 years.
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Old February 25th, 2016, 06:18 AM   #80
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I miss the Weatherball atop the original Northwestern National Bank (Eventually Norwest and then Wells Fargo). It could be seen for miles.

The sphere was internally lit with neon tubing. Red meant warmer temperatures in the next 24 hours. White meant colder. Green = No change. If it blinked in any of those colors it meant precipitation ahead.



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