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Old May 21st, 2019, 09:38 PM   #61
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quite interesting design wise, not your usual box but the council need to come up with an overall plan for city centre gardens and the tower blocks there, to properly knit together centenary square, paradise, Arena Birmingham and the Jewellery Quarter



Totally agree. I've been going on about this for ages. This has the potential to be a great park for the city centre, close to the ICC, NIA, canals, Centenary Square, Paradise, Arena Central. Rehouse the people in the four towers and crappy low rise properties behind in the Ladywood redevelopment and then extend the existing green area. Knock the crappy MSCP down and extend the park too the main road.
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Old May 21st, 2019, 10:18 PM   #62
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Rehouse the people in the four towers and crappy low rise properties behind in the Ladywood redevelopment
Let us not forget that those are people's homes and they might like living there. In the last few years the city centre has arrived on their doorstep and not the other way around.
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Old May 21st, 2019, 10:23 PM   #63
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I much prefer the new design, really like it. Iíve never been to the flapper and have no knowledge of it but if itís going to go (which it seems like it definitely will at some point) then I would much rather have this really nice looking scheme than the rubbish that was proposed before.
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Old May 22nd, 2019, 02:03 AM   #65
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~ 8-12 floors of that design yep otherwise pointless really keep the pub
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Old May 22nd, 2019, 09:44 AM   #66
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Thanks Ralph! Completely subjective but I donít agree Sefton66 that particular design suits the height of 4-5 storeys it wouldnít suit the style if it went 8-12 floors. The pub is clearly not used otherwise it would be making enough money to stave off a 4 storey development.
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Old May 22nd, 2019, 12:08 PM   #67
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I think the Flapper is a dreadful pub in design and appearance, it would look at home on a 60's council estate. I'm fully approving of it being flattened to make way for something much more aesthetically pleasing in such a prominent and up and coming canalside location.

With regards to the clientele and the music, I'd be very supporting of a move to a new venue nearby. (a similar deal to that which saw the Kind Edward in Aston closed, and the Aston Tavern purchased and renovated in a win-win situation all round).
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Old May 22nd, 2019, 02:33 PM   #68
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New images published for city centre flats.


www.insidermedia.com/insider/midlands/new-images-published-for-city-centre-flats
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Old May 22nd, 2019, 03:18 PM   #69
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Personally I think this scheme looks stunning! That apartment in the top left corner looks amazing... Could be higher as mentioned though, but what are you guys actually planning on objecting to in planning terms? The loss of the Flapper has been granted before...
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Maybe now there's more people in planning who go out more, see bands, socialise and don't just go home to their city centre flat and sit in their pants eating crisps?
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Itíll be a real shame to loose the Flapper. Thereís a real shortage of pubs by canals in Birmingham. Thereís also a shortage of beer gardens that get good sun. The Flapper meets both of these needs. Itís also an interesting and quite attractive looking building. The proposed apartments look dull. This part of the city centre will be considerably more boring if the apartments get built.
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Agree with that Kings Heathen. Can only think of maybe 2 other beer gardens within the middleway? Hosts a number of festivals and touring bands. Surprised noone has proposed anything for the canalside spot just to the NE, between Flapper and the student flats, would be a great location.
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Old October 2nd, 2019, 04:32 PM   #73
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Old October 2nd, 2019, 04:52 PM   #74
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Old October 2nd, 2019, 05:58 PM   #75
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The new building looks nothing like the one they were proposing. How do architects change plans so radically? Serious question.
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This is a real shame and a huge loss of a vital cultural asset and a venue that has supported, and hosted, local, national and international bands in a small, sweaty, pumping live music venue. The bedrock of live music.
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Oh my good god! I am actually feeling a genuine sense of loss here. I moved away from Brum in the mid 2000s and spent many a night in here when I should probably have been getting my beauty sleep. Many fond memories and I considered it to be my local boozer.
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Old October 2nd, 2019, 11:08 PM   #79
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WTF. It's a cultural important venue if it's deemed so by a councillor. This is sad news for the city, can't think of anywhere as friendly, rock and alternative supporting place in Brum. Hare and hounds probably, but with a nice beer garden. Why replace it with flats that will be saudi or chinese investments and sit empty?
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If it was for something spectacular then that's one thing... but to lose the Flapper for a tiny block of bog-standard apartments? This city is its own worst enemy sometimes.
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