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Old November 1st, 2017, 12:55 AM   #41
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Si, pero tengo entendido que no es una "verdadera" primera clase. Son mas bien asientos business en B737, etc...
La primera clase transfronteriza que se ha operado dentro de Norteamérica es la misma que se ha operado desde hace décadas (F), y es tan verdadera como su precio. El detalle es que tu tema se trata de la primera clase en vuelos intercontinentales, que por su duración, con el tiempo ha ido evolucionando en el aspecto de mayor comodidad y amenidades, y que para diferenciarla de la clase original F, en sus inicios se vendía como clase "P", por comercializarse como "Premium First Class", variante que también se aplicaba a la clase ejecutiva original (C), que se también se vendía como clase "J".

Habría que comentar también que fuera de Norteamérica, en muy pocas regiones del mundo se sigue vendiendo la primera clase no intercontinental.

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Old November 2nd, 2017, 04:26 AM   #42
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Así es, generalmente el mercado entre México y Estados Unidos se cubre con aviones pequeños o incluso regionales que no cuentan con primera clase, que por otra parte no se requiere al ser vuelos tan cortos. Lo mismo pasa con los vuelos entre México y Canadá.
Podrían poner fotos de las cabinas de primera clase de estos vuelos?
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Old February 9th, 2018, 06:24 AM   #43
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Sao Paulo (GRU) 713

Chicago (daily) / United / B772ER / 8 seats
Dallas (daily) / American / B773ER / 8 seats
Dubai (daily) / Emirates / A380 / 15 seats
Frankfurt (daily) / Lufthansa / B748 / 8 seats
London (daily) / British / B772ER / 14 seats
Luanda (5 weekly) / TAAG / B772/3ER / 14/12 seats
Miami (2 daily) / American / B773ER / 8 seats
New York (daily) / American / B773ER / 8 seats
Newark (daily) / United / B772ER / 8 seats
Zurich (daily) / Swiss / A343 / 8 seats


Rio de Janeiro (GIG) 230

Buenos Aires (daily) / Emirates / B773 / 8 seats
Dubai (daily) / Emirates / B773 / 8 seats
Frankfurt (daily) / Lufthansa / B748 / 8 seats
Luanda (vía GRU) (5 weekly) / TAAG / B772/3ER / 14/12 seats


Ciudad de México (MEX) 227

Frankfurt (daily) / Lufthansa / 748 / 8 seats
London (daily) / British / 789 / 8 seats
Munich (5 weekly) / Lufthansa / 346 / 8 seats
Paris (daily) / Air France / 380 / 9 seats
Vancouver (3 weekly) / China Southern / 788 / 4 seats


Buenos Aires (EZE) 224

Frankfurt (daily) / Lufthansa / B748 / 8 seats
Miami (daily) / American / B773ER / 8 seats
New York (daily) / American / B773ER / 8 seats
Rio de Janeiro (daily) / Emirates / B773 / 8 seats


Santiago de Chile (SCL) 32

London (4 weekly) / British / 789 / 8 seats


http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=GRU-ORD,+GRU-DFW,+GRU-DXB,+GRU-FRA,+GRU-LHR,+GRU-MIA,+GRU-JFK,+GRU-ZRH,+MEX-FRA,+MEX-LHR,+MEX-MUC,+MEX-CDG,+MEX-YVR,+EZE-FRA,+EZE-MIA,+EZE-JFK,+EZE-GIG,+GIG-DXB,+SCL-LHR,+GIG-GRU-LAD,+GIG-FRA

Hay que agregar el nuevo vuelo de Emirates a SCL y GRU.

Algún otro cambio?
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Old February 9th, 2018, 01:09 PM   #44
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Hay que agregar el nuevo vuelo de Emirates a SCL y GRU.

Algún otro cambio?
El nuevo vuelo de EK no cuenta con First Class, solo cabina Business.

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Old February 9th, 2018, 05:37 PM   #45
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Hay que agregar el nuevo vuelo de Emirates a SCL y GRU.

Algún otro cambio?
Al parecer air france esta volando 3fxs scl-cdg con le premiere. Pero no estoy seguro, si alguien pudiera confirmar?
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Old February 11th, 2018, 05:20 PM   #46
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Al parecer air france esta volando 3fxs scl-cdg con le premiere. Pero no estoy seguro, si alguien pudiera confirmar?
No Air France solo vuela a Santiago con Boeing 777-200ER y -300ER configurados en tres clases: Business, Premium Economy y Economy. Tal como está posteado la única que opera First Class es British Airways 4 veces por semana en la ruta LHR-SCL en Boeing 787-9.
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Old April 3rd, 2018, 08:59 PM   #47
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Lufthansa vuelve a operar desde octubre en 340 600 la ruta FRA - BOG y con ello vuelve la primera clase, 1 vuelo diario.

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Lufthansa adds First Class cabin on A340-600 for Bogota service from 28OCT18, replacing A340-300

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/sta...02963615006720

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Old April 9th, 2018, 07:47 AM   #48
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Sao Paulo (GRU) 713

Chicago (daily) / United / B772ER / 8 seats
Dallas (daily) / American / B773ER / 8 seats
Dubai (daily) / Emirates / A380 / 15 seats
Frankfurt (daily) / Lufthansa / B748 / 8 seats
London (daily) / British / B772ER / 14 seats
Luanda (5 weekly) / TAAG / B772/3ER / 14/12 seats
Miami (2 daily) / American / B773ER / 8 seats
New York (daily) / American / B773ER / 8 seats
Newark (daily) / United / B772ER / 8 seats
Zurich (daily) / Swiss / A343 / 8 seats


Rio de Janeiro (GIG) 230

Buenos Aires (daily) / Emirates / B773 / 8 seats
Dubai (daily) / Emirates / B773 / 8 seats
Frankfurt (daily) / Lufthansa / B748 / 8 seats
Luanda (vía GRU) (5 weekly) / TAAG / B772/3ER / 14/12 seats


Ciudad de México (MEX) 227

Frankfurt (daily) / Lufthansa / B748 / 8 seats
London (daily) / British / B789 / 8 seats
Munich (5 weekly) / Lufthansa / A346 / 8 seats
Paris (daily) / Air France / A380 / 9 seats
Vancouver (3 weekly) / China Southern / B788 / 4 seats


Buenos Aires (EZE) 224

Frankfurt (daily) / Lufthansa / B748 / 8 seats
Miami (daily) / American / B773ER / 8 seats
New York (daily) / American / B773ER / 8 seats
Rio de Janeiro (daily) / Emirates / B773 / 8 seats


Bogotá (BOG) 56

Frankfurt (daily) / Lufthansa / A346 / 8 seats


Santiago de Chile (SCL) 32

London (4 weekly) / British / B789 / 8 seats
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Cual será la razon por la que British tiene first a SCL pero no a EZE?
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Old April 9th, 2018, 09:51 PM   #50
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Sao Paulo (GRU)

Chicago (daily) / United / B772ER / 8 seats
Dallas (daily) / American / B773ER / 8 seats
Dubai (daily) / Emirates / A380 / 15 seats
Frankfurt (daily) / Lufthansa / B748 / 8 seats
London (daily) / British / B772ER / 14 seats
Luanda (5 weekly) / TAAG / B772/3ER / 14/12 seats
Miami (2 daily) / American / B773ER / 8 seats
New York (daily) / American / B773ER / 8 seats
Newark (daily) / United / B772ER / 8 seats
Zurich (daily) / Swiss / B773ER / 8 seats
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Old April 10th, 2018, 06:48 AM   #51
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Cual será la razon por la que British tiene first a SCL pero no a EZE?
Es que a SCL mandan el 787-9 que por defecto trae la cabina de primera clase, por el tema de ser un mercado nuevo, con menor demanda y distante, entonces ese avión es el que por ahora mejor se adapta a la ruta, mientras consolidan su operación. Distinto es el caso del 777 donde BA tiene subflotas de ese avión con distintas configuraciones (por ejemplo los que estan basados en LGW ahora tienen la clase turista con la fatídica configuración de 10 asientos por fila). Entonces ahi mandan el 777 en función del tipo de ruta, si tiene mayor tráfico premium, o de pasajeros "vacacionales", etc.

Eso si IAG anunció el año pasado que va a reducir la cabina de primera clase de los 787-9 de BA, a tan solo cuatro asientos.
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Old April 10th, 2018, 04:34 PM   #52
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Emirates debería tener first class desde SCL a GRU, no?.
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Old April 10th, 2018, 04:57 PM   #53
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Emirates debería tener first class desde SCL a GRU, no?.
No. Corresponde a un vuelo con el Boeing 777 200 LR, que tiene 38 asientos en Business y 264 en Economy.
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Old April 20th, 2018, 02:59 PM   #54
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Air France está voando com La Première para GRU em 5x dos seus 14x voos semanais.
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Old May 29th, 2018, 08:35 PM   #55
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As of 29-May-18

1 Sao Paulo (GRU) 733

Chicago (daily) / United / B772ER / 8 seats
Dallas (daily) / American / B773ER / 8 seats
Dubai (daily) / Emirates / A380 / 15 seats
Frankfurt (daily) / Lufthansa / B748 / 8 seats
London (daily) / British / B772ER / 14 seats
Luanda (5 weekly) / TAAG / B772/3ER / 14/12 seats
Miami (2 daily) / American / B773ER / 8 seats
New York (daily) / American / B773ER / 8 seats
Newark (daily) / United / B772ER / 8 seats
Paris (5 weekly) / Air France / B773ER / 4 seats
Zurich (daily) / Swiss / A343 / 8 seats


2 Buenos Aires (EZE) 260

Caracas (3 weekly) / Estelar / A343 / 12 seats
Frankfurt (daily) / Lufthansa / B748 / 8 seats
Miami (daily) / American / B773ER / 8 seats
New York (daily) / American / B773ER / 8 seats
Rio de Janeiro (daily) / Emirates / B773 / 8 seats


3 Rio de Janeiro (GIG) 230

Buenos Aires (daily) / Emirates / B773 / 8 seats
Dubai (daily) / Emirates / B773 / 8 seats
Frankfurt (daily) / Lufthansa / B748 / 8 seats
Luanda (vía GRU) (5 weekly) / TAAG / B772/3ER / 14/12 seats


4 Ciudad de México (MEX) 227

Frankfurt (daily) / Lufthansa / B748 / 8 seats
London (daily) / British / B789 / 8 seats
Munich (5 weekly) / Lufthansa / A346 / 8 seats
Paris (daily) / Air France / A380 / 9 seats
Vancouver (3 weekly) / China Southern / B788 / 4 seats


5 Bogotá (BOG) 56

Frankfurt (daily) / Lufthansa / A346 / 8 seats


6 Santiago de Chile (SCL) 32

London (4 weekly) / British / B789 / 8 seats
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Más asientos en 1ª para São Paulo!

British Airways aumenta oferta entre São Paulo e Londres

04/07/2018 13:32:00 | Artur Luiz Andrade


A partir de 2 de novembro, a British Airways, dirigida no Brasil por José Antonio Coimbra, adiciona mais 432 assentos por semana (em cada sentido) entre São Paulo e Londres. Serão dois novos voos semanais, com o Dreamliner 787-9 da companhia, em quatro classes. A oferta extra se soma ao voo diário com o 777-330, de forma que a BA terá nove ligações semanais entre a capital paulista e Londres.

O 787-9 da British tem oito assentos na primeira classe (First), 42 na executiva (Club World), 39 na econômica premium (World Traveller Plus) e 127 na econômica (World Traveller).

O voo de ida para Londres (BA-240) sai de São Paulo às 16h20, chegando às 6h15 do dia seguinte. Será operado às segundas e sextas-feiras, dias que, dessa forma passam a ter dois voos diários da BA.

A volta (BA241) sai de Londres às 19h05, chegando a Guarulhos às 5h15 do dia seguinte. Terá operações aos domingos e às quintas-feiras (também com dois voos diários nesse sentido).

https://m.panrotas.com.br/aviacao/no...londres/156848
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Es impresionante la cantidad de asientos en first class que hay desde GRU
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Old July 16th, 2018, 01:18 AM   #58
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1 Sao Paulo (GRU) 751

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Dallas (daily) / American / B773ER / 8 seats
Dubai (daily) / Emirates / A380 / 15 seats
Frankfurt (daily) / Lufthansa / B748 / 8 seats
London (daily) / British / B772ER / 14 seats
London (2 weekly) / British / B789 / 8 seats
Luanda (5 weekly) / TAAG / B772/3ER / 14/12 seats
Miami (2 daily) / American / B773ER / 8 seats
New York (daily) / American / B773ER / 8 seats
Newark (daily) / United / B772ER / 8 seats
Paris (5 weekly) / Air France / B773ER / 4 seats
Zurich (daily) / Swiss / A343 / 8 seats


2 Buenos Aires (EZE) 260

Caracas (3 weekly) / Estelar / A343 / 12 seats
Frankfurt (daily) / Lufthansa / B748 / 8 seats
Miami (daily) / American / B773ER / 8 seats
New York (daily) / American / B773ER / 8 seats
Rio de Janeiro (daily) / Emirates / B773 / 8 seats


3 Rio de Janeiro (GIG) 230

Buenos Aires (daily) / Emirates / B773 / 8 seats
Dubai (daily) / Emirates / B773 / 8 seats
Frankfurt (daily) / Lufthansa / B748 / 8 seats
Luanda (vía GRU) (5 weekly) / TAAG / B772/3ER / 14/12 seats


4 Ciudad de México (MEX) 227

Frankfurt (daily) / Lufthansa / B748 / 8 seats
London (daily) / British / B789 / 8 seats
Munich (5 weekly) / Lufthansa / A346 / 8 seats
Paris (daily) / Air France / A380 / 9 seats
Vancouver (3 weekly) / China Southern / B788 / 4 seats


5 Bogotá (BOG) 56

Frankfurt (daily) / Lufthansa / A346 / 8 seats


6 Santiago de Chile (SCL) 32

London (4 weekly) / British / B789 / 8 seats
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Se supone que Santiago sumaría Dubai cuando envién el 777-300 ER ¿O me equivoco?
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Se supone que Santiago sumaría Dubai cuando envién el 777-300 ER ¿O me equivoco?
Pero es previsto el cambio de avión en la ruta de Emirates?

Ellos la hacen con B.777-200LR, sin 1st Class.
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