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Old October 3rd, 2018, 11:31 AM   #41
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Glad to see this site come forward, and love the density but I can't understand why architects are so bloody reluctant to design anything remotely pastiche? This site is in the heart of the Jewellery Quarter conservation area and the only character of the area they've imbibed into the design is materials, and even there they seem to have struggled.
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Old October 3rd, 2018, 01:58 PM   #42
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Glad to see this site come forward, and love the density but I can't understand why architects are so bloody reluctant to design anything remotely pastiche? This site is in the heart of the Jewellery Quarter conservation area and the only character of the area they've imbibed into the design is materials, and even there they seem to have struggled.
Although I agree in part with you, I think architects generally, unless they specialise in country houses in palladian style like Quinlan Terry etc, consider it a bit inauthentic and slightly plageuristic (if that's a word) so don't tend to do it.

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Old October 3rd, 2018, 02:29 PM   #43
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I'd much rather see modern buildings designed sensitively than pastiche. It's silly to pretend that our cities are of a single era and style, even in conservation areas. Let's be proud of the entirety of our architectural history (as long as it's good quality) and the interest that it brings to places.
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Old October 3rd, 2018, 02:36 PM   #44
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First time poster after following the forum for many years. Really useful updates from everyone and thanks a million for all the honest debates and discussion. I'm a big fan of the Jewellery Quarter and this is only going to add to it's popularity, however I'm a bit worried about a little old bar down on Regents Place called The Rock 'n' Brewhouse. Does anyone know if this is likely to be affected, maybe even demolished for the Development? Looking at the masterplan, it does just look like it's outside of the boundaries but i'm a little worried all the same.
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Old October 3rd, 2018, 03:59 PM   #45
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I'm a big fan of the Jewellery Quarter and this is only going to add to it's popularity, however I'm a bit worried about a little old bar down on Regents Place called The Rock 'n' Brewhouse. Does anyone know if this is likely to be affected, maybe even demolished for the Development? Looking at the masterplan, it does just look like it's outside of the boundaries but i'm a little worried all the same.
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No need to worry A company called The London Development Company a month or so back acquired land on Regents Place - comprising six buildings, including the building you've mentioned, with the intention of including "high-end restaurant spaces, offices and new homes.", which as it turns out, will front onto this development. They'll be working with the Council and Historic England to "ensure the development enhances the historic street."



They're not going to demolish a valuable and historic building in a conservation area matey. If anything, it'll make them more popular. The entire area is going to be buzzing
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Old October 3rd, 2018, 04:41 PM   #46
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Thanks for the Welcome. Your picture highlights the building perfectly.
Thanks for putting my mind at rest, it's a great little place to drink and I agree, this development will hopefully make it more accessible.
p.s. I missed a Roll off my pub name. It should of course have been the Rock'n'Roll Brewhouse.
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First time poster after following the forum for many years. Really useful updates from everyone and thanks a million for all the honest debates and discussion. I'm a big fan of the Jewellery Quarter and this is only going to add to it's popularity, however I'm a bit worried about a little old bar down on Regents Place called The Rock 'n' Brewhouse. Does anyone know if this is likely to be affected, maybe even demolished for the Development? Looking at the masterplan, it does just look like it's outside of the boundaries but i'm a little worried all the same.



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Old October 17th, 2018, 05:36 PM   #48
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An updated DAS was uploaded on 11th Oct which appears to include additional renders/elevations not already posted above.
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An updated DAS was uploaded on 11th Oct which appears to include additional renders/elevations not already posted above.
I can't find the application online, do you know the application number
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Old December 21st, 2018, 03:45 PM   #50
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It looks like this one goes before the committee on the 3rd Jan as well, but unfortunately it looks like it is for comments rather than a final decision. There are some new renders in what has been submitted and after seeing them I think the layout could be improved facing Newhall Street as the building at the front closes the frontage off and an entrance via a passage down the side of the building is not as inviting and is less likely to attract footfall off the street particular from people unaware of its existence.

It looks like there are a number of issues listed as well such as the potential relocation plans and that Baker & Finnimore want to stay in their current location, amongst the usual car parking, affordable housing/workspace and S106 issues after skimming through it, so it might be a while on this one.
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Old December 21st, 2018, 04:50 PM   #51
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I cannot describe how much I love this.
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£125M JEWELLERY QUARTER PROJECT TO OPEN LONG-CLOSED ROAD
25 Jan 2019 Midlands Property Jon Robinson
£125m Jewellery Quarter project to open long-closed road
A private road in Birmingham€™s Jewellery Quarter is to be permanently opened to the public after more than 20 years as part of a £125m regeneration project.

Part of Northwood Street, which runs from Caroline Street to Vittoria Street, is owned by AE Harris and the 100-metre stretch was partially closed to serve the engineering firm€™s factory buildings.

The four-acre AE Harris site was acquired by joint venture partners Galliard Homes and Apsley House Capital and the joint venture team is planning a £125m mixed-use scheme of more than 320 new apartments and about 100,000 sq ft of commercial space.

Newly released images of Northwood Street show ground floor restaurant, bar and retail space along the length of the currently sealed street, with apartments - including lofts and duplexes - above.

Affordable workspace is also planned with the aim to address demand from local craft businesses and artisans.

The developers have also elected to retain 123 and 128 Northwood Street. Although not listed, both have architectural merit and will be incorporated within the new scheme.

A new 7,000 sq ft building on the corner of Northwood Street and James Street is earmarked wholly for leisure space. A boutique cinema is among the uses being mooted.



A second public route will also be created through the site. A new pedestrian boulevard,

from Newhall Street to Regent Place, will create direct access from Birmingham city centre right in to the heart of the Jewellery Quarter.

Robin Norstrom, director at Aspley House Capital, said: "To give it some scale, the AE Harris site is bigger than the whole of St Paul€™s Square, so it has huge potential.

"When we first looked at it we were particularly excited by the opportunity to re-open Northwood Street and create a brand new through route from Newhall Street, making the Jewellery Quarter so much more accessible.

"There a number of beautiful buildings along the closed section of Northwood St, the listed 109 in particular. We can€™t wait to open the gates and give this street back to the community."

Adam Ratzker, commercial director at Galliard Homes, added: "We€™ll be looking to accommodate business start-ups, craft workers and, of course, jewellers.

"We€™re aware that there is pent up demand for smaller, affordable workspace units - on flexible terms - from existing businesses in the Jewellery Quarter. We will make it a priority to address this need.



"We also want to add to the amenity offer in the Jewellery Quarter, for businesses, residents and visitors, by supporting local independent operators and artisans rather than replicating what is on offer elsewhere in the city.

"We will do this sensitively, preserving the area€™s unique charm, and encourage the local business and retail community to contact us soon, before the final mix is agreed."

The scheme, called St Paul€™s Quarter, is bounded by Newhall Street, Graham Street, Brook Street, James Street and Northwood Street.

Master-planned and designed by award-winning architects Glenn Howells, the development will comprise 20 individual buildings of between two and five storeys.

Galliard and Apsley€™s proposals are subject to planning permission from Birmingham City Council.

A green light will lead to the creation of more than 500 jobs, including construction posts and jobs in the food, beverage, retail and office sector while the scheme is expected to take five years to complete.

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Do we know what’s happening to ae Harris? Are they moving elsewhere in the city?
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Old June 24th, 2019, 10:52 PM   #54
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Few subtle changes. Trawled through previous D&A's for these before & afters. I think we're close to seeing this go to committee..


Final Massing




Regent Place

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Final:


Northwood Street/ James Street

Before:



Final:



James Street:



& down Northwood Street:



& at the far end of Northwood Street (going towards Vittoria Street):



Newly formed North to South Street

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Final: Realigned to get The Squirrel Works into the shot & the building on the right reduced..





Graham Street




Others

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& Newhall Street/ Graham Street

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Old June 24th, 2019, 11:24 PM   #55
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Looks amazing - this could create another lovely mix of uses like Garden Square. Would be great if jewellers and jewellery students were offered very good rates for opening up in the retail units also.
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Still looks really good.
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Old June 25th, 2019, 12:17 AM   #57
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I love it, absolutely love it. Build it now, please
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The first before & after shows the demolition of the old building?
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Old June 25th, 2019, 12:50 AM   #59
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Renders look promising! The JQ in general needs more public space and break-out areas for cafes/bars as it can still feel quite sterile at times.

I'm a bit bias as i live on George Street as well as work in construction and would quite happily line this up as my next project...
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Welcome to the forum CryptoCookie. Good to have someone else from construction posting on the forum.
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