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Old September 17th, 2019, 05:18 PM   #221
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This has definitely been an issue before in social housing projects that the government has built in Egypt. This isn't the only city the government is building right now.

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to me it looks like they changed many blocks to have fewer openings and they seem thicker. The buildings in the center of the circles east and west of the center are not there (yet?), the blocks in the southwest are completely changed. And there are 2 new roundabouts for access to the neighborhood.
Looks like this is indeed the case, thanks for the explanation.
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Old September 17th, 2019, 05:18 PM   #222
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To give you guys an idea of the scale of the current construction.

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Old September 17th, 2019, 06:10 PM   #223
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Would be great if Egypt spent more effort on reclaiming the desert and I am assuming there is some effort to green desertified areas?
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https://youtu.be/lfo8XHGFAIQ

Worth a watch. I do know they’re putting greenhouses everywhere, but not properly terraforming. A bit of an OT, but I would love to see the Qattara depression filled with water from the med, which theoretically speaking should help lower the local sea water levels? Or am I being totally obtuse?
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Old September 18th, 2019, 01:36 AM   #225
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This plan is miserably suburban and sprawling out everywhere. It's as if it's designed specifically to require a car to get around, like the 1950's American planning ideal. They are going to end up with massive traffic and an enormous amount of unnecessary road and utility infrastructure since each building is spread further and further apart.

The R5 district is a good example of how the city SHOULD be laid out, with small city blocks, narrow streets that slow the cars, buildings closely lining the sidewalks, and perimeter block layouts that maintain the streetwall. The wide avenues with intersections that appear to be placed at least a kilometer apart will seal in the district such that you need a car or a pedestrian overpass bridge to get in or out of it from adjacent districts. The urban fabric should continue to link it with adjacent districts. Even in cities with enormous avenues like Washington DC and Paris, the avenues become destinations largely because they are lined with shops and restaurants/cafes at street level and form blocks just as small as the rest of them.

A few landmark government and cultural buildings should be the only ones that are set back behind plazas and parks to create public space in front of them.
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In a climate that hot, narrow streets that keep people in shade mostly and reduce heat gain on physical structures are a must. They only have to look at millennia of urban development to find the most appropriate compact form of city.
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Old November 2nd, 2019, 01:41 PM   #227
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UPDATE: Central Business District
incl. the 385m "iconic tower"

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Old November 2nd, 2019, 08:11 PM   #228
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very interesting project. want to ask a lot.

how much this will cost? how will the proponents gets its return of investments?
what is the projected size of the whole project (initial phase or/and entire phase)?
are potential residents will be forced to live here or basically optional?

the scale is so huge. are there any comparable development similar to this where hundred(thousand?) buildings are being built simultaneously?
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very interesting project. want to ask a lot.

how much this will cost? how will the proponents gets its return of investments?
what is the projected size of the whole project (initial phase or/and entire phase)?
are potential residents will be forced to live here or basically optional?

the scale is so huge. are there any comparable development similar to this where hundred(thousand?) buildings are being built simultaneously?
These are questions awaiting answers.
Workers and contractors on the project haven't been paid since July, despite the Central Park lowering interest rates this year specifically to help fund the project.

Sisi wants to allow military companies - the main ones building it - to be allowed to be listed on the stock market in order to raise more capital. He has also made a big push to sell off land and assets around the project to foreign investors for the same reason, but with very little success.

News reports today are that the Housing Administration is saying the next phase of construction is going to be delayed.
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These are questions awaiting answers.
Workers and contractors on the project haven't been paid since July, despite the Central Park lowering interest rates this year specifically to help fund the project.

Sisi wants to allow military companies - the main ones building it - to be allowed to be listed on the stock market in order to raise more capital. He has also made a big push to sell off land and assets around the project to foreign investors for the same reason, but with very little success.

News reports today are that the Housing Administration is saying the next phase of construction is going to be delayed.
That should say Central Bank.
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Old November 3rd, 2019, 11:21 AM   #231
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These are questions awaiting answers.
Workers and contractors on the project haven't been paid since July, despite the Central Park lowering interest rates this year specifically to help fund the project.

Sisi wants to allow military companies - the main ones building it - to be allowed to be listed on the stock market in order to raise more capital. He has also made a big push to sell off land and assets around the project to foreign investors for the same reason, but with very little success.

News reports today are that the Housing Administration is saying the next phase of construction is going to be delayed.
Military companies are not building it, the military does not own construction companies. The only state-owned construction company is called Arab Contractors and it's affiliated with the Ministry of Housing, they are indeed partaking in this project though along with a number of private contractors (most of them Egyptian but not exclusively). The company that is supervising the project is jointly owned by the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Housing (Administrative Capital for Urban Development).

Companies that aren't listed on this website are not owned by the Ministry of Defense, all their companies are run by the NSPO. Military involvement in infrastructure projects is limited to supervision through the Armed Force's Engineering Authority, but in this particular project it's mainly handled through the above mentioned company (ACUD).

Listing military-owned companies on the stock exchange has nothing to do with this particular project, and everything to do with the IMF-led economic reforms being pushed through that will see dozens of state-owned companies listed for the first time. So far none of the IPOs planned are affiliated with the Ministry of Defence.

Interest rates were lowered due to record low inflationary pressure, there is no way they could have done it otherwise, new capital or not.
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Military companies are not building it, the military does not own construction companies. The only state-owned construction company is called Arab Contractors and it's affiliated with the Ministry of Housing, they are indeed partaking in this project though along with a number of private contractors (most of them Egyptian but not exclusively). The company that is supervising the project is jointly owned by the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Housing (Administrative Capital for Urban Development).

Companies that aren't listed on this website are not owned by the Ministry of Defense, all their companies are run by the NSPO. Military involvement in infrastructure projects is limited to supervision through the Armed Force's Engineering Authority, but in this particular project it's mainly handled through the above mentioned company (ACUD).

Listing military-owned companies on the stock exchange has nothing to do with this particular project, and everything to do with the IMF-led economic reforms being pushed through that will see dozens of state-owned companies listed for the first time. So far none of the IPOs planned are affiliated with the Ministry of Defence.

Interest rates were lowered due to record low inflationary pressure, there is no way they could have done it otherwise, new capital or not.
It's all the same families who run the companies and the military.
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Old November 3rd, 2019, 02:26 PM   #233
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It's all the same families who run the companies and the military.
Families? There are no prominent "political dynasties" in the military, the hierarchy is mostly based on loyalty and seniority.
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Old November 12th, 2019, 02:57 PM   #234
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Old November 12th, 2019, 03:02 PM   #235
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This will also be situated in the government district. That massive road in the middle is apparently being built to host military parades, a more grandiose version of the Unknown Soldier memorial in Cairo.

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Definetly , Cairo returns to 20s 30s arquitecture . We are in XXI century.
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Military parades on so much bare concrete exposed to sunlight? They can build a massive hospital right next to it for all soldiers who collapse.
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Look remarkably like Palais de Chaillot in Paris. Bit worried about the military parade?
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