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Old December 30th, 2016, 11:05 AM   #121
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Agios Nikolaos

Area: Kyriakoselia, Chania
Type: cross-in-square
Date: 11th century



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Old December 30th, 2016, 11:16 AM   #122
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kokini ekklisia

Area: Vourgareli, Arta
Type: cross-in-square without dome
Date: 1281



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Old December 30th, 2016, 11:20 AM   #123
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Panagia Mprioni

Area: Neochoraki, Arta
Type: cross-in-square
Date: 1238

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Old December 30th, 2016, 11:24 AM   #124
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Agios Dimitrios Katsouri

Area: Plisious, Arta
Type: cross-in-square
Date: late 9th century


This is the oldest example from Arta


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Old December 30th, 2016, 11:34 AM   #125
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Agios Vasilios

Area: Arta
Type: single aisled basilica
Date: 13th century



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Old December 30th, 2016, 11:42 AM   #126
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Agios Dimitrios monastery

Area: Preveza
Type: three aisled cross-roofed basilica
Date: 1242




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Old December 30th, 2016, 11:52 AM   #127
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Agioi Apostoli

Area: Leontari, Arcadia
Type: three aisled basilica cross-in-square second level
Date: late 1300


Similar to the Mystras types


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Old December 30th, 2016, 12:18 PM   #128
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Zoodochou Pigis

Area: Kalogerorachi, Messinia
Type: cross-in-square
Date: 12th century






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Old December 30th, 2016, 10:04 PM   #129
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Have you ever considered sharing the examples from Metéora? They look truly iconic, especially surrounded with such landscape!
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Old December 30th, 2016, 10:31 PM   #130
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Indeed, although the problem with monasteries is that most of them date after the end of the Byzantine era.
Oh well, perhaps this doesn't matter though
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I didn't know that they were built after the Byzantine era, oh well they still have the recognizable style so I still think they are worth of sharing.
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Old December 31st, 2016, 12:00 AM   #132
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Most orthodox monasteries in general date from the 16th-17th centuries due to the dissolution of the state and the special decrees with the ottomans that made their formation the only alternative for christianity. There was far less point to monasteries when the state and the church was one and the same. Of course many church buildings in them are far older.
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Byzantine architecture is so simple yet so impressive, I think this is a way to show good architecture doesn't necessarily has to be ornamented without falling into many examples of the modernist and minimalist crap.
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Old December 31st, 2016, 06:23 AM   #134
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Byzantine architecture may be simple on the outside but usually much more elaborate than other houses of worship on the inside.

Cross-in-square design or cross of equal arms length is also often referred to as the Greek-cross style as depicted on the Greek flag.


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Most orthodox monasteries in general date from the 16th-17th centuries due to the dissolution of the state and the special decrees with the ottomans that made their formation the only alternative for christianity. There was far less point to monasteries when the state and the church was one and the same. Of course many church buildings in them are far older.
This is not true...most monasteries are 'leftover' congregations going back to the Greek philosopher Epicurus' time when he championed communal living.


Watch til the end and you will also see that Epicurus was the main influence on Marx, although his ideas were distorted and corrupted to communism and totalitarianism later...
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The buildings which are my focus point are still from that time and not Epicurus'
After all the "Byzantine empire" is a neologism. It was called by name and substance the Roman Empire and had a continuation since classical times.

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Well said!

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Old December 31st, 2016, 01:17 PM   #136
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Agioi Apostoloi

Area: Kalamata, Messinia
Type: cross-in-square
Date: 1050-1150 (?)


A good followup of this thread is the neobyzantine architecture, of which I'm sure there must be a thread already

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The buildings which are my focus point are still from that time and not Epicurus'
That's not what we were talking about, but the advent of monasteries...
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Old January 2nd, 2017, 10:03 AM   #138
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This argument is off the topic. You are bothered because I didn't make clear I was referring to the the building rather than the institution. Frankly I don't care about the institution, so obviously I wan't talking about that. I know that monasteries flourished well only during the ottoman empire years due to the excellent relations they had and church had in general with the Turks. Thusly, the vast majority of monastic architecture, in Greece which most examples are anyway, but also elsewhere date from the ottoman empire years, and you can see this from the time of construction.
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you're quite wrong again and not very well informed in Greek history, but believe what you want to believe sweetie-pie. The information you supply I would say is not very reliable.

Greece's three most important UNESCO listed monasteries all built before the Ottoman occupation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosios_Loukas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nea_Moni_of_Chios

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daphni_Monastery
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you're quite wrong again and not very well informed in Greek history, but believe what you want to believe sweetie-pie. The information you supply I would say is not very reliable.

Greece's three most important UNESCO listed monasteries all built before the Ottoman occupation.
First of all this is not a history contest but an architecture thread on byzantine art.
Secondly, monasticism in byzantine Greece started flourishing well after the era of the Iconomachy, when such dogmatic struggles ceased for a time, and the empire saw an age of spiritual and political stability under the amorian, macedonian and komnenian dynasties. This imperial protection and sponshorship, led to monastic communities being established statewide, with such examples as the ones you mention above, and many others such as the Great Lavra on Mount Athos, the monastery of the Apocalypse on Patmos, the Hozoviotissa monastery of Amorgos etc. After the fall of Constantinople (1204) and in the years that followed, the empire was in disarray and new strife arose in orthodoxy (see hesychasts for example, or the split between unionists and anti-unionists after the Council of Florence), that naturally affected the monastic communities as well. The ottoman era and the fact that the patriarchate and the monastaries enjoyed the personal protection of the Sultan led to a golden age in monasticism, that saw monasteries restructured and many others established. Even the monasteries you mention above have a common charecteristic: the only thing that survives from their byzantine past, structuraly and architecturaly speaking, is the katholikon at best. All the surrounding buildings, the monks cells, the dining halls (trapeza) and fortifications are usually subsequent structures dating back to ottoman and venetian era restorations and extentions.
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