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Old September 9th, 2010, 02:36 PM   #41
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A website for Spiceal Street has been launched, and some more new renders have been released.

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Old September 9th, 2010, 03:02 PM   #42
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This is tipped to open Autumn 2011, with the planning app going in this Autumn
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Old September 9th, 2010, 03:52 PM   #43
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FWIW I think this is really good. It doesn't really encroach on the church and I think it actually improves its setting by taking the harsh edges away. The fountain is nice but it doesn't really do much to enhance the surroundings - I would like to see it relocated though. And the spiral cafe could benefit from a better setting - it is a bit too crowded. It's a shame the tourist office is where it is - it would make a great tourist office.

Anything that gets a bit more night life around the Bullring is great and my guess is that many shoppers don't venture far out of the Bullring to eat anyway so it won't have too much of a negative effect. The rest of town will have to up its game to drag shoppers away.

I wonder whether some of the current eateries might move there and release their current units as retail?
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Old September 9th, 2010, 08:53 PM   #44
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I might be looking so hard, like spot the difference, i can't see it but where is the new water feature?
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Old September 9th, 2010, 09:00 PM   #45
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the buildings look brilliant, but what a really weird location?

Where are the trees too. This project really has not been though tout very well in some ways, in other ways it is quite interesting.
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Old September 9th, 2010, 09:06 PM   #46
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Couldn't they just put this somewhere that, like, needs improving?
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Old September 9th, 2010, 09:21 PM   #47
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The images don't show the new water feature as they haven't decided where to put it, either down the side of the new steps of somewhere near to Jamies according to the woman I was talking to at the exhibition
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Old September 9th, 2010, 10:55 PM   #48
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hope they use natural wood under the curvy canopy or elsewhere hopefully! - would look wonderful.
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Old September 10th, 2010, 12:30 AM   #49
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The images don't show the new water feature as they haven't decided where to put it, either down the side of the new steps of somewhere near to Jamies according to the woman I was talking to at the exhibition
Cheers Spread. I was wondering if maybe i'd missed it for looking.

Did they say what scale it would be and what will become of the lightcubes.
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Old September 10th, 2010, 01:31 AM   #50
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Couldn't they just put this somewhere that, like, needs improving?
This is an area that needs improving.

Or do you mean couldn't they put this in an area where they don't own the land (and doesn't form part of the bullring?) Isn't that a bit like asking why the Mailbox didn't build the Cube somewhere else?
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Old September 10th, 2010, 02:16 AM   #51
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Couldn't they just put this somewhere that, like, needs improving?
It does, like, need improving. The whole area is like a wasteland after all the shops have shut.

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Isn't that a bit like asking why the Mailbox didn't build the Cube somewhere else?
They should have put it in Eastside.
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Old September 10th, 2010, 03:29 AM   #52
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EK's right about the trees. Those pine trees are a green relief on the left side. Nice design and the ribbon effect is quite delicate.
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Old September 10th, 2010, 08:43 AM   #53
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Those new renders look terriffic.

Still not happy about the one on the right near the church.

But the other two will be a fine additions to the area.

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New Bullring plans set to move Marks Barfield café
10 September 2010

Chapman Taylor has unveiled plans for a new restaurant complex beside the Bullring in Birmingham – which could mean the demise of Marks Barfield’s multi award-winning Spiral Café just five years after it opened


The proposals for the shopping centre’s co-owner Hammerson are for three new restaurants linked with a curved stainless-steel “ribbon” roof and a terraced public space with water feature.

But the Spiceal Street project will mean moving the Spiral Café, now likely to be somewhere else in the city.

Marks Barfield managing director Julia Barfield said: “We are a bit bemused. Nobody has actually talked to us either from the council or from the developer.”

A planning application will be lodged next month with work on the new scheme starting at the end of the year.

James Atha, associate director of Chapman Taylor, said the café will be relocated “in agreement with the council” to a suitable location.

“The original concept was that it could be pieced together almost like a temporary installation,” he said. “It can be taken apart and moved elsewhere.”

Barfield said taking down the spiral was “technically possible” but would not be easy. She added: “I do think it would be a shame if it just got dumped in a barn and forgotten about.”

The Spiral Café, winner of a RIBA and a Civic Trust award in 2006, is formed of eight curved “ribs” enclosing the seating and serving area.

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Old September 10th, 2010, 12:06 PM   #55
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Those new renders look terriffic.

Still not happy about the one on the right near the church.

But the other two will be a fine additions to the area.
↲It won't be any closer to the church than the wall and steps are now, and those are never used due to the ramp alongside. I don't see a problem.
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Old September 10th, 2010, 12:36 PM   #56
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It does, like, need improving. The whole area is like a wasteland after all the shops have shut.



They should have put it in Eastside.
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Old September 10th, 2010, 12:57 PM   #57
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Because it apparently wasn't obvious enough, I wasn't seriously suggesting that the Mailbox should have built the Cube in Eastside. It was a joke, although admittedly not a very good one.
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How about moving the Marks Barfield cafe to Victoria Square?
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Old September 10th, 2010, 01:52 PM   #59
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↲It won't be any closer to the church than the wall and steps are now, and those are never used due to the ramp alongside. I don't see a problem.
A wall is not a building though. The perception of open space which exists now will be lost and the church may feel hemmed in. Its like your neighbour replacing the fence in you back garden with an extension, its no closer than the fence was but it still feels different
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Looking at the renders, are they also extending Nando's and Pizza Hut? Looks like their coming out more into the square
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