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Old July 17th, 2011, 12:34 PM   #41
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Here are two images from the model inside the "Humboldt box"

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Hier mal ein Bild des Modells aus dem Humboldtbox. Das Modell sieht mir aufgehuebscht aus verglichen mit dem Modell aus der Ausstellung beim Hausvogteiplatz. Vielleicht haben sie auch einfach nur mal Staub gewischt:

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(eigenes Bild)
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Old July 17th, 2011, 07:58 PM   #42
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Great pictures!
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Old July 18th, 2011, 06:09 PM   #43
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The German text with the model-photo above is only somewhat clear; can someone translate accurately? Where is this model?
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That model is inside the Humboldt-Box on the castle site.

PhilippK just mentioned that it looked renovated to him, compared to the state of the model that could be seen at an exhibition inside the building of the castle foundation at Hausvogteiplatz (a square just around the corner).
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Old July 19th, 2011, 04:42 AM   #45
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What is the new Stadtschloss gonna be used for again once it is built?
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Old July 19th, 2011, 05:13 AM   #46
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(...) The new building will contain the following:

* Quality Shops (probably more at the higher end of the market, which is quite fitting for a building of this design
* Restaurants
* A museum
* A Business Center
* Rooms for corporate "special events" and functions

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Old July 24th, 2011, 12:19 AM   #47
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Thank you GFM!


Another historical illustration of the Berlin Castle, showing the "round corner" at the river Spree facade Schlüter created.
I'm still not sure whether this will make its way into the Humboldt-Forum project.


Source: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:BerlinSchloss.jpg
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Old July 24th, 2011, 05:14 PM   #48
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No, it won't. If you' ve seen the most recent plans, you'll notice that there won't be a clean "cut" between the reconstruction and the modern facade anymore. The reconstructed facade now kind of fades into the modern part. Thus there is no place for that round corner, as it would create a cut.



You see what I mean? I'm pretty sure this also applies for the other facade. None of the plans ever featured a rounded corner...

I prefered the clean cut between the reconstructed part and the modern part, as it was initially planned, MUCH more.
And to think that the cladding of the modern wing now will be concrete...
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Old July 24th, 2011, 06:04 PM   #49
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Agreed. I think they should better leave out the East / Spree facade and make it an open building towards the river for now. Rather than having this modernist crap. Someday they could make an effort to also reconstruct this side of the castle then. The way it's planned for now it's going to look ridiculous. Not much of a surprise, only few people are willing to donate for this bastard...
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Old July 24th, 2011, 07:10 PM   #50
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If I had the authority, I would have build a fourth Baroque facade (copying the others) but adding arcades along the river Spree. The perfect place for Berlin's grandest and finest cafe or restaurant. But today's spirit of Berlin isn't grand or refined at all...
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Old July 24th, 2011, 09:42 PM   #51
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Well, not that unrealistic after all. Didn't the architect Schlüter intend to reshape and "baroquicise" the East facade as well? I'd love to see those plans. Does anyone know if there any?

In the end, they'd probably have reconstructed this facade if it was Baroque as well.
But I think it should be rebuilt just the way it was before destruction, as the partly renaissance and even older Spree facade was a remarkable heritage of Berlin's and the Castle's history. In addition, I think the donation organization (Stadtschlossverein) made the failure of not proposing this facade as part of the reconstruction, showing it in renderings etc. Things would look different then I guess.
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Old July 24th, 2011, 11:19 PM   #52
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I'm still trying to explain myself what is so wrong in the minds of today architects. They always have to ruin a good idea by adding modernist rubbish.

This also goes for the new version of Eosander's courtyard, the 'Agora':


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P.S. Is there any thread about the Potsdam Stadtschloss? I'd like to know.
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Old July 25th, 2011, 12:03 AM   #53
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I agree 100%. I just hope once it's complete that it ends up looking better than what I see in the renderings! Although I wont hold my breath!
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Old July 25th, 2011, 12:32 AM   #54
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P.S. Is there any thread about the Potsdam Stadtschloss? I'd like to know.
We have this thread on the topic https://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=552007
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No, it won't. If you' ve seen the most recent plans, you'll notice that there won't be a clean "cut" between the reconstruction and the modern facade anymore. The reconstructed facade now kind of fades into the modern part. Thus there is no place for that round corner, as it would create a cut.

http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archiv...s_1284079s.jpg

You see what I mean? I'm pretty sure this also applies for the other facade. None of the plans ever featured a rounded corner...

I prefered the clean cut between the reconstructed part and the modern part, as it was initially planned, MUCH more.
And to think that the cladding of the modern wing now will be concrete...
Wow, the modern facade doesn't really compliment the reconstructed part at all.

Even something super modern (akin to the dome atop the Reichstag) would look better.
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Old July 26th, 2011, 03:52 PM   #56
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Whats wrong with this? Spacious, bright and minimal...quite stunning really.
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Old July 26th, 2011, 04:23 PM   #57
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I think the roof is necessary here, even if people do not like the mix of modern and old. The roofed yard is needed for space.
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There ain't much of a problem with this for me. As I said, the main issue is the modern exterior facade towards the river Spree. It's a disgrace to this to the grand old City Palace.
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True the exterior looks dull, they should have gone for deconstructivism instead.
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I agree, the 3 parts historical, one part modern facade is not very appealing.
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