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Old April 5th, 2013, 06:38 PM   #1
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Why NYC lost 10% in population between 1970-1980?

Why NYC lost 10% in population between 1970-1980? What was the cause of this brutally loss of over 800k. people? Wiki doesn't says anything, that's why i am asking you. It was because of the crack epidemic or from other reason?
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Old April 5th, 2013, 06:50 PM   #2
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This was happening to just about every major city in the country back then, and it's still happening to a lot of them today. The major culprits for New York were white flight, skyrocketing crime and decay, and general de-industrialization. City services, especially police/firefighters and trash collection were in pretty rough shape.

Check out the 'Brutal New York' thread if you want to see what life was like in the near-bankrupt city.
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Old April 7th, 2013, 06:57 PM   #3
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Violent crime in the US peaked around 1970 so flight out of inner cities accelerated at that time. Additionally, NYC was battered by the recessionary economy of the 1970s and nearly went bankrupt. Services suffered and maintenance of subways, bridges and the like collapsed. Nobody who could leave, wanted to stick around to see how that would end. Another outgrowth of those '70s recessions were the closures of many small factories throughout the city, the continued decline of the ports in NYC as ships moved to ports in New Jersey which aggressively poached businesses, people and tax base from New York throughout that period and beyond; and a prolonged bear market that hobbled Wall Street. The crack epidemic didn't hit until 1985-86.

More interesting is what led to the reverse flows back into the city.
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Robert Moses happened. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Moses

He tore down whole neighborhoods to build the towers in a park developments that today characterize much of Harlem, the Bronx, Queens, and the East Village and Lower East Side, many of which destroyed more housing units than were actual built in the name of public housing. He also smashed highways through the Bronx and built tons of ramps for the Lincoln tunnel and the Port Authority Bus Terminal. Meanwhile, he spent almost nothing on the subway system as he closed or realigned whole lines and numerous stations, while the entire system degraded to a point that it was considered to be more dangerous than most streets! At the same time, the crime rate skyrocketed and the city fell into a deep debt, to the point that it nearly declared bankruptcy, something that is only happening to cities right now! All of these factors combined destroyed the desirability that the city once provided and pushed people out, both forcefully and voluntarily, along the same highways that Robert Moses built to bring people into the city. At least it has recovered completely, and has a population that is higher than at ANY time in its history, something that few major cities in America can say!
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This was happening to just about every major city in the country back then, and it's still happening to a lot of them today. The major culprits for New York were white flight, skyrocketing crime and decay, and general de-industrialization. City services, especially police/firefighters and trash collection were in pretty rough shape.

Check out the 'Brutal New York' thread if you want to see what life was like in the near-bankrupt city.
Yep. Had an almanac as a kid that showed population of the 50 largest US cities 1970-75, and it was astonishing how many cities lost people, even in the 'sunbelt' and on the west coast.

A lot of office parks began springing up in the suburbs during this time, and flight of white collar business from urban areas just compounded it further.
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Not to bring up a dead thread or anything, but why did it's population grow in the 1960s?
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The Baby Boom, I would assume. At least during the early part of the decade. Not necessarily more homes, but more people (in the form of kids) per home.

That was also true for a lot of cities in the 50's and 60's.
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Also little things like farming equipment arriving in the farmlands.

A combined harvester, for instance, could do the work of 100 men. That leaves 100 men out of work in rural areas....so they all migrate towards the big cities because 'thats where the work is'.
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