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Old March 24th, 2007, 02:13 PM   #41
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Must be the old interior


new interior?
Because the stands are closer to the pith








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Great stadium.
Thats surely gonna be the best stadium in eastern Europe.
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Old March 24th, 2007, 03:08 PM   #43
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Im hoping Poland/Ukraine get 2012, I love visiting Poland would like the chance to get to Ukraine too, I hope they improve transport though before the championships.
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why does the roof membrane slant upwards instead of downwards. to create a better atmosphere and reduce noise pollution the sensible thing would be have a downward sloping roof structure.
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www.sercan.de, thanks for those additional renders, I haven't seen them before.

Irish Blood English Heart, in terms of city transport, it isn't that bad, three of ukrainian cities will have a fully functioning subway system (Kyiv and Dnipropetrovsk have it already, but Donetsks hasn't opened yet).
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Great stadium.
Thats surely gonna be the best stadium in eastern Europe.
presumerably between this and the new one in St. Petersburg

there are some very, very nice stadiums sprouting up, or being planned in Eastern Europe these days
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Old March 25th, 2007, 02:05 PM   #47
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www.sercan.de, thanks for those additional renders, I haven't seen them before.

Irish Blood English Heart, in terms of city transport, it isn't that bad, three of ukrainian cities will have a fully functioning subway system (Kyiv and Dnipropetrovsk have it already, but Donetsks hasn't opened yet).
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I may sound just too grouchy, but I don't like it. I mean it is great in terms of size, right. But not when it comes to having "it". The tilted roof makes no impression on me, the stadium reminds me of Spodek Katowice, Poland. And that one is more characteristic in my opinion.

As for all the Central/Eastern-European (+Balkans) best stadiums comming up, I would list those (in that order):
1. Gazprom Arena, Skt. Petersburg
2. Stadion Maksimir, Zagreb
3. Arena Bałtycka, Gdansk
4. Shakhtar Stadium, Donieck
plus, we have to wait for what will come out of the national stadium ideas for Warsaw, Bucuresti and Budapest...
The Eastern side of the continent has a lot more work to do than the rest, so there's going to be a lot of movement and the stadium in Donieck may soon become just "one of" instead of "the one".
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The tilted roof is far from being a main characteristic feature in Donetsks Shahtar stadium, and I see absolutely no comparison with that old stadium in a picture above.

If I'm not mistaken, the other stadiums listed are available only in ideas and concepts, while this one will be nearing construction in half a year.

And once completed the list will be:
1. Donetsk: Shahtar stadium
2. Arena Bałtycka, Gdansk
3. Gazprom Arena, Skt. Petersburg
4. Stadion Maksimir, Zagreb ( I love Croatia, but Stadiums or Railway stations that look like malls are not my thing )

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I see absolutely no comparison with that old stadium in a picture above.
That is not a stadium, but a sports hall (15 000), but I think it's a thing of beauty, however they should restore and refresh it's look, because it looks a bit "dirty" at daylight.
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The tilted roof is far from being a main characteristic feature in Donetsks Shahtar stadium, and I see absolutely no comparison with that old stadium in a picture above.

If I'm not mistaken, the other stadiums listed are available only in ideas and concepts, while this one will be nearing construction in half a year.

And once completed the list will be:
1. Donetsk: Shahtar stadium
2. Arena Bałtycka, Gdansk
3. Gazprom Arena, Skt. Petersburg
4. Stadion Maksimir, Zagreb ( I love Croatia, but Stadiums or Railway stations that look like malls are not my thing )
I'm waiting for your impression of what will be the main characteristic as the stadiums slowly goes up. If not the shape of the roof (and it's influence on the bowl)- then what? I see nothing more specific in the design.

You're right, the stadiums aren't even under construction yet (Maksimir is succesively renovated year after year getting to the shape shown on the design). At least from what I know. But that's why I wrote "comming up"

Agree about the stadium/railway station thing (especially that in Krakow they are building the Opera house looking just like an office building), but I feel Maksimir has a lot more than that. I just really like it- personal thing
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I think it's a bit more basic than that. It's most likely just to be an artistic flourish, an aesthetic rather than a practical design feature.
I don't quite agree with you on this point. As you can read on the Shakhtar homepage the roof is tilting to the south end in order to let enter in a better way the sunlight to the pitch. So it is not only an artistic flourish, but there's an important idea behind this.
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I don't quite agree with you on this point. As you can read on the Shakhtar homepage the roof is tilting to the south end in order to let enter in a better way the sunlight to the pitch. So it is not only an artistic flourish, but there's an important idea behind this.
A fair point, well made. Of course the fact that the design we're discussing here is so unusual does rather indicate that it is by no means a mandatory method to increase exposure to daylight. I still contend therefore that it is primarily an aesthetic feature (and a very effective one, too) - albeit one that has the added practical benefit of encouraging the best pitch condition.

Obviously, given the choice of any orientation, the tilt would therefore be to the South. I apologise for my ignorance of the climate in Donetsk. Would it be fair to say its seasons are similar to Moscow, but with a more southerly latitude enabling a higher sun?

Having taken your point, I would go as far as saying that any aethestic feature in design that carries absolutely no practical benefit is likely to be superfluous and therefore an example of the kind of misguided ego-driven architecture that I referred to in an earlier post. All good design should give equal consideration to form and function.

I'd say that this stadium certainly does that!
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Render of the actual construction process, posted by El Vampiro Ucraniano at Ukrainian subsection.


And latest construction pic. Although looking at the construction pictures, I get the impression that it's not being built as shown on the animated render above. One side is already up to the second level section of seats, while the opposite side has nothing yet. Though I'm no expert on the subject as many of you here appear to be.


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A monster crane arrived to Donetsk
22-03-2007 14:11:29

A unique monster crane 72 m in length and 600 tones of maximum capacity was brought to the construction site by the General Contractor Turkish Company ENKA. This crane will be used for assembling of the roof of the new stadium.

The crane dismantled in pieces of course sailed by sea to Ukraine to the port of Mariupol and 24 cargo truck machines (including one which is the base of the crane, as it is movable) brought the details of this monster to Donetsk.

To assemble such a giant it will need several smaller cranes, 6 specialists and a week of work. But when it will be assembled it will be seen from any point of Donetsk.

The length of the main jip boom is 48 m, the overall weight – 495 tones maximum it can lift 600 tones and the maximum velocity is 70 km. Of course it doesn’t have to move that fast around the construction site.

Just to remind, that the roof works will start in the beginning of April 2007 and the roof is planned to be finished in October 2007.

A unique crane for unique roof!
http://newstadium.shakhtar.com/cgi-b...ews.pl?id=4166
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the render shows only the levels
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wonderful stadium, I feel jealousy
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its nice but it looks like arsenal emirates arena
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its nice but it looks like arsenal emirates arena
explain? this is a totaly different design then the emirates or La Luz in Lisboa. by miles this isnt the emirates
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