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Old December 21st, 2004, 12:34 PM   #41
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My My, what an unbiased report from the Washington Post. I suppose we can look forward to more negative press from the american media as poor old boeing keeps floundering around. The european media are of course generally positive about the A380. Over the last two years I have read articles in Time, Newsweek etc that pretty much follows boeings press release output. Note that the article disparages the airlines that have bought the A380 as government owned. So what? Most of the Worlds airlines are still government owned. In fact in the good old days of boeings dominance nearly all the worlds airlines were government owned. The idea of US airline chiefs worrying about treating coach passengers like cattle! TH
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Old December 22nd, 2004, 04:43 AM   #42
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Old December 22nd, 2004, 10:09 AM   #43
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If the middle East and Asian countries want to bought cheap airplane in the future, then they better wishes that Airbus and Boeing mumbo jumbo company going to sue the hell out of each other. That way there are going to be competition, and everybody got a great deal.
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Old December 23rd, 2004, 07:53 PM   #44
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Airbus A380 is $2bn over budget

The A380 pre-production model is due to be used in trials next year
The Airbus A380 superjumbo project is running 1.45bn euros (£1bn; $1.9bn) over budget, the company's majority owner EADS has admitted.
"That is indeed a lot, that is indeed hefty," EADS co-chief executive Rainer Hertrich told journalists in Munich.

Total costs for the double-decker aircraft are now estimated to be more than 12bn euros, the company said.

Due to enter service in 2006, the A380 will replace the Boeing 747 jumbo as the world's biggest passenger aircraft.

But despite the increase in costs, the jet is on schedule and its inaugural flight should take place next year, the company said.

A380 SPECIFICATION
Length: 73m
Wingspan: 79.8m
Height: 24.1m
Typical capacity: 555
Max capacity: 840
Engines: 4
Cruising speed: 0.85 mach
It is then expected to start carrying passengers in 2006, with an estimated four planes being produced every month by 2008.

Joint effort

The 555-seater plane could revolutionise the airline industry and could lead to a doubling in Airbus' profits, some experts say.

The A380 has wider seats, more legroom and 50% more floor space than the Boeing 747. It also has a 15,100km (8,150 nautical miles) flight range.

The assembly of the giant plane is taking place at a £240m factory in Toulouse, France.

Sections of the aircraft have been manufactured in the UK, Germany, Spain and France before being transported to Toulouse for assembly.
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Old December 24th, 2004, 04:12 PM   #45
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When anyone does big projects like this you have to ready for costs to go over budget. Most big Projects go over budget. This has gone over budget alot but i think they were ready for it.
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Old December 24th, 2004, 04:17 PM   #46
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How much does a A380 cost to buy?
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Old December 24th, 2004, 04:51 PM   #47
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in my opinon theres no need for the a380 or even the 747 anymore,atleast not right now
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Old December 24th, 2004, 08:32 PM   #48
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in my opinon theres no need for the a380 or even the 747 anymore,atleast not right now
It will sell more in some years time, when the 747-400's start to get really old.
Anyway, there's a need for it right now, and it's a great project by airbus! And all the boeing fans just have to accept that.
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Old December 26th, 2004, 12:56 AM   #49
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They have sold over 130 odd already. They want to build 3 a month so its 43 a year so about 4 years guarentteed building work so far. Airbus must be charging well over 200 million each so I dont think there complaining, it should pay off the 12 billion developing fee.
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Old December 26th, 2004, 01:18 AM   #50
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Im American and since it seems to be the fad for Euros to say Boeing sucks and vice versa....

Yeah...well, if Boeing made a big fat ugly plane like this it would be better, faster, cooler, and just plain niftier...hell yeah...Go America...Go USA...

But as is...Its fat, its ugly...but its hella big and I have to give my props to Airbus even if I don't care for their business...
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Old December 26th, 2004, 01:25 AM   #51
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Your right its being built in the wrong place. It should be being built in the US is where all the super fatties are. Also I want to buy one
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Old December 26th, 2004, 05:36 AM   #52
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Im American and since it seems to be the fad for Euros to say Boeing sucks and vice versa....

Yeah...well, if Boeing made a big fat ugly plane like this it would be better, faster, cooler, and just plain niftier...hell yeah...Go America...Go USA...
Well, nobody here is saying that boeing sucks or that airbus is better, so you should shut up instead of writing that stupid lines about boing/america being better!
About it being the fad for euros and americans to say that A or B sucks, well, let's not transform this thread into one of those stupid pointless discussions.
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Old December 26th, 2004, 06:05 AM   #53
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Both Boeing and Airbus are fine companies that have excellent planes. Boeing had it's glory with the Jumbo and other models and now Airbus is on the spotlight owing to the A380. But who knows in the future? There's nothing here worth fighting for.
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Old December 26th, 2004, 06:19 AM   #54
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How much does a A380 cost to buy?
If I remember correctly, they're U.S. $250 Million, compared to a Boeing 747-400 at U.S. $218 Million.

Launch customers like Singapore Airlines and Emirates probably also received a little bit of a "discount" for being the first to fly them.
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Old December 26th, 2004, 06:24 AM   #55
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This seems to be more of a pride issue than anything else. Not that this new airplane isn't cool, but it just seems like smaller models such as the A330 are the most plausible airplanes now.
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Old December 26th, 2004, 01:14 PM   #56
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Buying in bulk willl also make it cheaper for them.
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Old December 26th, 2004, 03:03 PM   #57
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I wanna see this behemoth fly!
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Old December 27th, 2004, 07:57 AM   #58
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Well, nobody here is saying that boeing sucks or that airbus is better, so you should shut up instead of writing that stupid lines about boing/america being better!
About it being the fad for euros and americans to say that A or B sucks, well, let's not transform this thread into one of those stupid pointless discussions.
Please please do understand sarcasm...sorry if you thought I was starting something or not...I just notice that many of these types of topics degrade into some kind of Airbus vs. Boeing flame job...


I still think its ugly though...
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Old January 5th, 2005, 11:26 PM   #59
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I got some petty big news just bin on the airbus site and Mr Behemoth AKA the A380 will be revealed at 11.00AM GMT+1 on 18th January. 12 days from now.

Count down on this site.
http://www.airbus.com/prehome.asp#
Finally we will see one. I dont know but it could also be the day that it flys. Fingers crossed.
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Old January 6th, 2005, 11:03 PM   #60
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it looks amazing!

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