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Old September 13th, 2019, 06:04 PM   #5981
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Soalannya..can the projected revenue service the debt and operations of the HSR...

Kuat Jepun melobi ya...good luck lawan China for the tender.
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Old September 14th, 2019, 09:19 AM   #5982
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Texas Central signs design-build agreement with Salini Impregilo and Lane Construction Corporation for Texas High-Speed Train

The scope encompasses design, construction and installation of the civil infrastructure and track system, and related buildings and services along the route that will house maintenance and other rail system equipment

Dallas, September 13 2019 – Today, Texas Central, developer of the high-speed train, announced a design- build contract has been signed with the joint venture of Salini Impregilo, one of the largest civil engineering contractors in the world, and its U.S. subsidiary, Lane Construction Corporation.

Salini-Lane is to supply the civil and infrastructure scope for the new high-speed train service between Houston and Dallas.

"We are thrilled and honored to bring our large-scale railway expertise to this unique opportunity”, said Pietro Salini, CEO, Salini Impregilo Group.


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The Project

The Texas high-speed train project is amongst the most important in the world in terms of railway connections between two large urban centres.
Just like Madrid-Barcelona, Tokyo-Osaka or Paris-Lyon, the two cities Dallas and Houston are at the right distance to guarantee reduced travel times compared to car travel and at extremely competitive prices compared to air travel.

It is the fastest railway connection between two U.S. cities with strong population growth. The high-speed train will link Dallas and Houston in 90 minutes with a train every 30 minutes at peak times. There will be one stop in the Brazos Valley, where Texas A&M University is located. It is expected to be 90 minutes faster than car travel and one hour faster than air travel considering boarding times.

Dallas and Houston are respectively the fourth and fifth largest economies in the U.S, after New York, Los Angeles and Chicago. The two metropolitan areas are amongst those with the highest population growth.

According to the US Census Bureau the Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex registered one of the highest rates of population growth in the U.S. - 1 million from 2010 to 2018.

It is estimated that 6 million passengers in 2029 and 13 million in 2050 will use the high-speed train between Dallas and Houston.

1920 5 ENG Infografica Texas HS RAIL ENG v02 01
Economy and Environmental

From an environmental point of view the Dallas- Houston train is expected to reduce CO2 emissions by approximately 700,000 metric tons annually. The train is six times more efficient in terms of energy than the car, the preferred means of transportation in Texas. It will also emit 1/12th of the CO2 of a Boeing 777-200.

From an economical point of view the high-speed train will be entirely financed by private investors and will have enormous benefits for the region:

ENG dati 1920
Salini Impregilo for the development of Global Infrastructure



Salini Impregilo Group has completed more than 2,000 projects in its 113-year history. Many of these projects were challenging for their geography (deserts, forests) or urban setting (big cities with dense traffic flows).

Each project is a sign of distinction for a group that works in 50 countries with 35,00 employees from more than 100 nationalities.

The Group, which operates in the United States through Lane Construction (128 years of history), has a long experience in rail infrastructure, especially in complex systems for high-speed and highcapacity trains. It has a track record of 7,062 kilometres of rail and 472 kilometres of metro (since 1960) in more than 170 projects in 23 countries.
https://www.salini-impregilo.com/en/...peed-rail.html
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Old September 14th, 2019, 01:18 PM   #5983
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Ada documentary on HSR by NHK di youtibe.obviously kipas Jepun punya HSR.....ada part depa melobi di Texas dan wakil wakil Texas memang puji rekod keselamatan HSR Jepun. Maybe Jepun berjaya?

BTW, dulu Taiwan patutnya guna HSR Eropah tapi separuh jalan tukar ke Jepun punya HSR sampai ada kesulitan sbb sistem power supply dr Eropah pastu masuk tren HSR Jepun. Pertukaran kononnya sebab ada accident melibat ICE di Jerman..atau Jepun main kotor sebab terdesak nak eksporr Shinkansen?
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Old September 14th, 2019, 02:18 PM   #5984
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Old September 14th, 2019, 03:09 PM   #5985
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HSR ni dah mcm game geopolitik ya antara Jepun dan China. Saya faham Jepun rah mula buat banyak progress di Vietnam, Filipina dan sekarang Indonesia. China pula dah mmg own Laos, Kemboja dan makin berpengaruh ke atas rejin tenteta Thai yang banyak beri projek kepada China termasuk projek HSR dan peralatan tentera Thai

Tapi di Indonesia rasanya mmg ada syakwasangka tinggi ke atas China sebab sentimen anti-Komunis yang masih kuat. Dan Jokowi pun kene seimbang pengaruh China yang kemungkinan tuntut wilayah maritimnya di SCS.

Malaysia sebelum ni mmg dah mula berjinak dgn China masa zaman suami Rosmah.
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haha Japan is Tun M's sweetheart so tak payah je teka siapa nok dapat.
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AHA, the ongoing negotiation between CP vs SRT on the issue of clearance of tracks to remove those illegal occupants on the railway tracks - along with the land expropriation for New Chacheongsao station for High Speed train which is 1 - 2 km North of existing Chachoengsao Junction.

The reason behind the delay of implementation is due to the blow on the development of U Tapao Airport after the failure of CP to submit the documents due to traffic jam that caused 9 Minute late and Administration Court have ruled that 9 minute Delay is fully justified reason to DISQUALIFY CP from bidding for U Tapao Airport Development (which BTS has won). U Tapao Airport will function as the current terminus for High Speed Train connecting 3 Airports (Donmueang - Suvannabhum - U - Tapao).
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Old September 15th, 2019, 08:09 PM   #5989
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Atok tu cerdik tak kena nyusah ngn forumer here longhat laaa

Even ECRL ble tipu daya cina deal pasal apa ngn HSR stripe kt tanah Asean ni...
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The reason behind the delay of implementation is due to the blow on the development of U Tapao Airport after the failure of CP to submit the documents due to traffic jam that caused 9 Minute late and Administration Court have ruled that 9 minute Delay is fully justified reason to DISQUALIFY CP from bidding for U Tapao Airport Development (which BTS has won). U Tapao Airport will function as the current terminus for High Speed Train connecting 3 Airports (Donmueang - Suvannabhum - U - Tapao).

I see.
Now i know what caused the late submission. 🤦🏻*♂️🤷🏻*♂️

Read this issue in thaivisa and nation thailand page.

Thanks for sharing sir.
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Atok tu terlama dokoh kt perdana mentri terdahulunya even terlalu lama skali di dunia ...nok pelik gapo klo ada projek tak sukses punya
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MyHSR Corporation Proceeds with the Kuala Lumpur – Singapore High Speed Rail Project Review Exercise, Expects Completion by Year End
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I thought it was something new, but that's just a three month old press release about the appointment of the consultants...
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I see.
Now i know what caused the late submission. 🤦🏻*♂️🤷🏻*♂️

Read this issue in thaivisa and nation thailand page.

Thanks for sharing sir.
In fact, CP starting to play political football to the government - even though the government wants CP to sign the contract by the end of September 2019, but CP has told the press that they are going to sign the contract by the end of November 2019 even though SRT is promosing to clear those illegally occupied slum dwellers along the Easten railway line and Northern railway line.
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HSR ni dah mcm game geopolitik ya antara Jepun dan China. Saya faham Jepun rah mula buat banyak progress di Vietnam, Filipina dan sekarang Indonesia. China pula dah mmg own Laos, Kemboja dan makin berpengaruh ke atas rejin tenteta Thai yang banyak beri projek kepada China termasuk projek HSR dan peralatan tentera Thai

Tapi di Indonesia rasanya mmg ada syakwasangka tinggi ke atas China sebab sentimen anti-Komunis yang masih kuat. Dan Jokowi pun kene seimbang pengaruh China yang kemungkinan tuntut wilayah maritimnya di SCS.

Malaysia sebelum ni mmg dah mula berjinak dgn China masa zaman suami Rosmah.
For the case of Cambodian railway, connecting with the neighbor at 120 kph and even double tracking seems to be beyond their means. Need more rail BS80 and BS100 welded rail donations so as to use the old BS60 rails permanent way pillars.

For the case of Laos, it is Chinese faction in LPDR Politburo that have everything to say about this Lao - China Railway project ... At least, I have seen railway pillars for the elevated track but need to see the way they are going to build the stations though.

For the case of Thailand, we have made a clear point that Thai section must be truly High Speed trains - all cargo trains in Thailand must be done through existing networks, so the new locomotive depot and more SDA-3 locomotives along with the new 20-ton axle load BCF with local assembly in Thailand are in need after the old BCFs from the converted wagons starting to show their own shortcomings when they are passing the curves.

More aircon Diesel Railcars (esp the ones with local assembly in Thailand) to function as feeders to those High Speed train stations and allow the retirement of those good Old Diesel Railcar to Cambodia are also in need.

Sure, CRRC Assembly line in Batu Gajar can export their DMUs in Thailand but they have to pass through the following specifications:

1. passing through Kaeng Khoi - Pakchong (23.4 in 1000 steepness and 200 meter radius curves) - the section with 45 kph max speed - without problem
2. passing through Mae Tan Noy - Khun Tan (26 in 1000 steepness and 400 meter radius curves) - the section with 45 kph max speed - without problem
3. passing through Hill section at km 588 (near Pang Puay station at km 590) - the section with 45 kph max speed - without problem.
4. 120 kph max.
5. Engines for DMUs must have an agent in Thailand - preferably either Caterpillar, MTU or Cummins which can consume B10 or even B20 Biodiesel.

the massive double tracking would take time to be done after those local people and vested interests along with voting banks keep pressing the demands for elevated tracks in their city areas as the way to make their city more modernized.
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For the case of Cambodian railway, connecting with the neighbor at 120 kph and even double tracking seems to be beyond their means. Need more rail BS80 and BS100 welded rail donations so as to use the old BS60 rails permanent way pillars.
KTMB used BS 80A,
This type of rail is no more available in open market, need special order in large quantity- expensive.
For KVDT2 project they still use the same type of rail profile.


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Sure, CRRC Assembly line in Batu Gajar can export their DMUs in Thailand but they have to pass through the following specifications:



1. passing through Kaeng Khoi - Pakchong (23.4 in 1000 steepness and 200 meter radius curves) - the section with 45 kph max speed - without problem

2. passing through Mae Tan Noy - Khun Tan (26 in 1000 steepness and 400 meter radius curves) - the section with 45 kph max speed - without problem

3. passing through Hill section at km 588 (near Pang Puay station at km 590) - the section with 45 kph max speed - without problem.

4. 120 kph max.

5. Engines for DMUs must have an agent in Thailand - preferably either Caterpillar, MTU or Cummins which can consume B10 or even B20 Biodiesel.
Actually im looking for this info, for my research and proposal. thanks for bring it up.

1.Most of DMUs in thailand manufactured by China also ? Or mixed ? Please share their OEM if not from china.
Can you get me some info what OEM they use for their rail profile machine ?
Is it grinder or milling ?
Plasser theurer ?

2. Thailand dont have any china /CSR or CRRC building like Batu Gajah or any China agent office? Maintenance or their MRO office ?

3. Point no 5- understood that requirement need to have an agent in local area is mandatory for some contract /agreement/project. Dedicated for that particular project.

thailand dont have any caterpillar or cummins agent ? If repairing or overhaul maintenance required, we do u go/contact? Direct contact the overseas/ international customer service?
Malaysia got cummins agent. Good one.
Not sure they cover for thailand too but it is understood that asia region thailand juga termasuk.

Are u contractor or u work for the gov in rail division? Hope u dont mind me asking.
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KTMB used BS 80A,
This type of rail is no more available in open market, need special order in large quantity- expensive.
For KVDT2 project they still use the same type of rail profile.
Then, Using BS100 rails with more ballast, not just concrete sleeper to replace the good old steel sleepers.

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Actually im looking for this info, for my research and proposal. thanks for bring it up.

1.Most of DMUs in thailand manufactured by China also ? Or mixed ? Please share their OEM if not from china.
Can you get me some info what OEM they use for their rail profile machine ?
Is it grinder or milling ? Plasser theurer ?

2. Thailand dont have any china /CSR or CRRC building like Batu Gajah or any China agent office? Maintenance or their MRO office ?

3. Point no 5- understood that requirement need to have an agent in local area is mandatory for some contract /agreement/project. Dedicated for that particular project.

thailand dont have any caterpillar or cummins agent ? If repairing or overhaul maintenance required, we do u go/contact? Direct contact the overseas/ international customer service?
Malaysia got cummins agent. Good one.
Not sure they cover for thailand too but it is understood that asia region thailand juga termasuk.

Are u contractor or u work for the gov in rail division? Hope u dont mind me asking.
Nah, the older ones are from Nippon Sharyo, Hitachi, Tokyu or so while the newer one is BREL Sprinter and Daewoo. Almost all of them use Cummin Engines which we have a local agent. Hope that we can get the newest ones to supersede BREL Sprinter and Daewoo though.

The Dept of Rail Transport is trying to woo investors to set up the local assembly for carriages and wagons though.

WE DO HAVE the Local Agents for Caterpillar (Office in Bang Na), CUmmins (Office on New Phetburi road) and MTU (Office at Bang Plee district of Samut Prakarn - SOuthern suburb of Bangkok). This enable SRT to make a local contact for the spare parts to replace when the engines gone out of order.

SRT also has Plasser theurer machines to deal with track maintainance though.
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Then, Using BS100 rails with more ballast, not just concrete sleeper to replace the good old steel sleepers.
Old track used BS80A, new track use UIC 54.
For KVDT2 they still follow the old type rail.
Turnout also.



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Nah, the older ones are from Nippon Sharyo, Hitachi, Tokyu or so while the newer one is BREL Sprinter and Daewoo. Almost all of them use Cummin Engines which we have a local agent. Hope that we can get the newest ones to supersede BREL Sprinter and Daewoo though.



The Dept of Rail Transport is trying to woo investors to set up the local assembly for carriages and wagons though.



WE DO HAVE the Local Agents for Caterpillar (Office in Bang Na), CUmmins (Office on New Phetburi road) and MTU (Office at Bang Plee district of Samut Prakarn - SOuthern suburb of Bangkok). This enable SRT to make a local contact for the spare parts to replace when the engines gone out of order.



SRT also has Plasser theurer machines to deal with track maintainance though.

Ok noted for the agent information.

Plasser lah kan, hehe Off course.

Thanks for the info.

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