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Old October 21st, 2019, 02:38 PM   #961
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-50119525

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Northern rail: Politicians call for Pacer trains compensation

Politicians in northern England are demanding that passengers still having to use the heavily-criticised Pacer trains should be offered reduced fares.

Greater Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham, Sheffield City Region Mayor Dan Jarvis and Leeds City Council leader Judith Blake have told operator Northern that using the ageing units is unacceptable.

Pacers are 1980s-built rail-buses meant as a short-term alternative for trains.

Northern had planned to withdraw them all by the end of this year.

The much-derided Pacers were originally constructed from the body of a bus frame and intended to have a maximum lifespan of 20 years.



In a letter to Northern, Mr Burnham, Mr Jarvis and Ms Blake said it was "unacceptable" that Northern would still be running services using Pacers into 2020, and called for an urgent meeting.

"However, the alternative of withdrawing the Pacers without any alternative replacements, would be an even worse outcome," they said.

"As we are forced into accepting the temporary retention of Pacers, we expect you to commit, as a matter of urgency, to appropriate financial compensation to the passengers affected."

They said fares should be reduced on all affected routes while the trains were being used.

Passengers "deserve a reliable, daily rail service", they added

'Cattle truck'
Commuters complained of the trains being loud, leaky and bumpy, with extreme temperatures.

Alison Campbell, a regular on the 07:26 service from Mytholmroyd in West Yorkshire to Manchester, said there were often only two carriages meaning seats were rarely available and people were left "standing in the aisles".

"If you do actually manage to get a seat they are very cramped and uncomfortable," she said, adding: "Cattle truck springs to mind."

Student Rimsha Sawant from Blackburn said she sighs when she sees her train is a Pacer and passengers "don't respect them".

"They need replacing because they are not good enough," she said.

"With all the technology we have we should at least have decent trains."

Self-employed transport manager Kevyn Ashmore, 60, from Wrexham said the trains were "unacceptable" .

He said train bosses "promised to upgrade the trains and put the prices up but they should put them down so more people use them".

A commuter who regularly uses the Calder Valley Line to Bradford said they were "draughty bone-shakers".

The man, who gave his name as Phil, said Pacers are "either too hot or freezing" and their only "upside" is being "better than waiting on a bleak platform or for a train that was late or cancelled".

Another commuter, Sam Brown, said in the summer the heat gets trapped inside "leaving you a sweaty mess", adding: "It's always a massive disappointment when you see a Pacer train waiting at the platform to take you.

"They are incredibly loud when revving up making it impossible to have a conversation with friends and you also feel the full force of any bumps on the track."

'Friendlier seating setup'

Not everyone is a critic, with Sally Carter, who regularly travels across the north, saying she prefers them to more modern trains because of the seating arrangement and large windows.

"I'm rather fond of them and will be sad to see them go," she said.

"I like the three plus two seating which seems to allow a lot more people to get a seat, and it's a nicer, friendlier setup without the high backs some companies have opted for.

"It's good to be able to look out at the north's great scenery."

Pacer trains have been regularly used on busy commuter routes, including those into Manchester, Leeds, Middlesbrough, Sheffield and York, as well as on the Merseyrail network.

As of October 2018, almost one in four vehicles operated by Northern was a Pacer according to the Department for Transport (Dft).

A report from the DfT said of the 875 vehicles in its fleet at that time, 158 were Class 142 Pacers, built between 1985 and 1987, while a further 56 were Class 144, built between 1986 and 1988.

Northern, owned by Arriva Rail North, previously said it was "working hard" to scrap all Pacers by the end of this year and pledged to replace them all with a new £500m fleet.

But it emerged in June that, due to manufacturing delays in the new trains, "a small number" would still be in use in 2020.

A Northern spokesman said: "As a result of further delays in the construction and delivery of our new trains from manufacturer CAF, a small number of Pacer units will need to be retained for a short period of time in 2020 to deliver the planned daily timetable with the right capacity for our customers.

"This situation is not unique to Northern.

"From today we will have 29 of our 101 new trains in service for customers and a further 27 new trains are in final testing or being used for driver training.

"The introduction of new trains from July meant the first Pacer was retired in August, with the majority of Pacers still planned to be removed by the end of this year.

"We agree the North deserves the best possible rail service and are working hard to improve performance and reliability for customers."

There were calls for Northern to be stripped of its franchise when "carnage" followed the introduction of new timetables in May 2018.

Its franchises cover the North West, Yorkshire, parts of Derbyshire, and the North East.


Pacerem mialem okazje jechac chyba tylko raz, wiele lat tamu jak bylem w Manchesterze. Nie zadroszcze ludziom tam. My moze narzekamy na nasze Networkery ale to jest zupelnie inna klasa...
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Old October 21st, 2019, 06:21 PM   #962
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No to kolejny filmik. Tym razem ruch pociągów na stacji Carlisle. Zwracam uwagę na serię 390 - 11-wagonowe PENDOLINO!
Trochę wiało ale miłego ogladania

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Old October 21st, 2019, 08:11 PM   #963
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Average age of trains by operator
Figures of locomotives and carriages as of April 2018
Caledonian Sleeper - 38,5 years (...)
W tej chwili Caledonian Sleeper wskoczył chyba na koniec listy, bo rozpoczęły się już kursy nowych wagonów nocnych Mk5 prod. CAF. Wagony te zastąpiły stare Mk2 całymi kilkunastowagonowymi składami, ze względu na posiadanie sprzęgów Scharfenberga i hermetycznych przejść międzywagonowych, niekompatybilnych z Mk2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3v0l38vF28
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Old October 21st, 2019, 09:24 PM   #964
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W tej chwili Caledonian Sleeper wskoczył chyba na koniec listy, bo rozpoczęły się już kursy nowych wagonów nocnych Mk5 prod. CAF. Wagony te zastąpiły stare Mk2 całymi kilkunastowagonowymi składami, ze względu na posiadanie sprzęgów Scharfenberga i hermetycznych przejść międzywagonowych, niekompatybilnych z Mk2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3v0l38vF28
Tak, pod tym wzgledem ta lista jest nieaktualna.

Wogole w UK trwa spora wymiana floty. LNER dostaje wlasnie nowe Azumy od Hitachi wkrotce bedzie mial jedna z najmlodszych flot w UK.
https://www.lner.co.uk/the-east-coas...azuma-is-here/

Greater Anglia tez jest w trakcie wymiany praktycznie calosci taboru (za bagatela 1,4 mld funtow) wiec przesunie sie w dol tej listy.
https://www.greateranglia.co.uk/newtrains
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-49582503

Merseyrail tez ma zamowiony nowy tabor, pierwsze sklady przyjezdzaja w przyszly roku, tam tez wymienaja absolutnie wszystkie sklady.
https://www.merseyrail.org/about-mer...ew-trains.aspx



W zasadzie wszyscy operatorzy z gory tabeli (oprocz wymienionych powyzej takze Northern, TfW Rail czy East Midlands Trains) maja zamowienia na nowy tabor.

Z dolu tez. Np South Western Railway zamowilo 90 skladow liczacych w sumie 750 wagonow!
https://www.southwesternrailway.com/...ut-us/our-plan

Naprawde na torach w UK, jesli chodzo o tabor, w kolejnych 2-3 latach szykuje sie jakosciowa zmiana.
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Old October 24th, 2019, 05:45 PM   #965
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Wizyta na budowie Paddington Crossrail Station:

https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/201...srail-station/

Ian zawsze fajnie pisze na swoim blogu.

Przekroj stacji:


Mapka:


Jedna fotka na zachete:
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Folder ze składem dla Merseyrail był rozdawany na Trako, wersja elektroniczna tutaj:
https://www.stadlerrail.com/media/pdf/mmer1216e.pdf
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Old October 25th, 2019, 08:41 PM   #967
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Slynne "leaves on the line":

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Old October 27th, 2019, 06:48 PM   #968
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Tym razem ostatni już tegoroczny filmik - ruch pociągów na stacji Doncaster.
Udało mi się "złapać" 100% lokomtyw serii 67 należących do Colas Rail
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Old October 29th, 2019, 08:53 PM   #969
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Dosc dokladny raport "gdzie dokladnie jestesmy" z projektem Crossrail:

https://www.londonreconnections.com/...-but-slipping/

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News on progress of existing TfL schemes has been in short supply during most of 2019. As if to make up for this, the 23rd October meeting of the Programmes & Investment Committee provided not only comprehensive background papers on a range of subjects but also a very informative discussion of the issues raised.

We hope to try and cover most of the major areas where we have updates of what is happening and, to that end, we kick off with Crossrail using information gained from the above committee and other sources to establish where we are today. The main source of information was Mark Wild’s (chief executive at Crossrail) presentation to the board members of the above committee.
Nie bede cytowal calosci bo to kawal tekstu. Warto poczytac jesli ktos jest zainetersowany tematem i chce zrozumiec jakie sa przyczyny problemow.
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