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Old September 20th, 2016, 02:16 PM   #61
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I'm utterly unshocked.

I had a friend move to London, next door to a tube station. Spends his whole day complaining about people going to the tube station outside his window.

Get them lit up again, get us some good looking night time shots and maybe people will take our city more seriously if we look like we are open for business.
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Old September 20th, 2016, 03:52 PM   #62
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In defence of the Sentinels residents, there was no lighting when they were built. When they were first illuminated there were complaints of light pollution and so the brightness was reduced (i believe).

In my experience it's more poor maintenance than complaints that are the problem - lighting schemes get installed and then forgotten about. The four blocks by Lee Bank Middleway have lighting on the roofs and to be fair it is maintained, however they wait until the majority of the lights have failed before repairing them. The costs have to come out of the residents service charges so you can't blame them for being 'efficient'

Back on topic, I had a look at the plans for this building and there is a ground floor commercial unit, earmarked for a bar/restaurant, which is good to see.
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Old September 20th, 2016, 03:59 PM   #63
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Not sure why anyone would want those awful tower blocks to be highlighted in the city. They don't need highlighting they need to be gone.
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Not sure why someone would join 'Skyscrapercity' then advocate the removal of good, Tall, well designed buildings.
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Old September 20th, 2016, 10:43 PM   #65
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So how long before a developer snaps up that large car park opposite this development.

Severn capital anyone ???
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Old September 20th, 2016, 10:46 PM   #66
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In defence of the Sentinels residents, there was no lighting when they were built. When they were first illuminated there were complaints of light pollution and so the brightness was reduced (i believe).

In my experience it's more poor maintenance than complaints that are the problem - lighting schemes get installed and then forgotten about. The four blocks by Lee Bank Middleway have lighting on the roofs and to be fair it is maintained, however they wait until the majority of the lights have failed before repairing them. The costs have to come out of the residents service charges so you can't blame them for being 'efficient'

Back on topic, I had a look at the plans for this building and there is a ground floor commercial unit, earmarked for a bar/restaurant, which is good to see.
Well the area may need a new convenience shop soon with all the development around here in the next few years. I can see a SPAR opening around here to compliment there Dean Street shop.
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Old September 21st, 2016, 12:06 AM   #67
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Not sure why someone would join 'Skyscrapercity' then advocate the removal of good, Tall, well designed buildings.

Because they look abysmal and shackle the city to a reputation it's trying to shake perhaps

I appear to belong to a minority on this forum (and city) who value more than simply how high a building is
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Old September 21st, 2016, 02:20 AM   #68
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Because they look abysmal and shackle the city to a reputation it's trying to shake perhaps

I appear to belong to a minority on this forum (and city) who value more than simply how high a building is
Yikes, these blocks sure do get a bashing. I wonder if it’s more than just what they look like, like some who hold that outdated image of an inner-city tower block, a sort of urban utopianism, a no-go area of high crime & unemployment, doleys lurking about with young mums walking their kid(s).

Agree or disagree on a tower blocks place in society, you can’t disregard how they've now come to be an uber-cool facet of inner city-living & are very much in demand with young professionals here and in other major cities. Look at the Barbican in London. Which is why I can't see the ones going behind the library any time soon either.

They’re prevalent in all major cities though man, not just Brum. Cov refurbed some of theirs, so have Manc. Cheap modernity in the clouds at the time. Londoners praised them, Glasgow built a city out of them. Look at their skyline and wince

The rooms in the Sentinels as I found out recently after meeting a mate are actually bigger than some apartments around town where you’d expect to pay two/three/four times the price. Some rooms go for £120k as someone pointed out. The place is a community in itself. How many live here, a thousand or two? A wrecking ball wouldn’t benefit Brum IMO

Just build a few new-build clusters around them, for example: The hotel/resi earmarked opp Radisson on the corner or the Pillo Hotel if it resurfaces could take the focus off it somewhat alongside Suffolk Queensway and give the area a much-needed lift (because it really does need a lift). Also build/refurbish all the way up Holloway Head and in time the gateway of the area will see radical change & then maybe sometime in the future, to appease some, the exterior could be "improved" somewhat.

There's life in them yet!

Also, I feel you'll love this, don't throw up looking at these
https://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=242812
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Old September 21st, 2016, 09:39 PM   #69
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Because they look abysmal and shackle the city to a reputation it's trying to shake perhaps
Thats an Opinion, not a fact.

Also the clue is in the title of the Forum as to why we like Tall buildings.
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I hate tall buildings which are tall for the sake of it.

The sentinels for me represent a bygone age of urban utopianism, and I'd dread for us to lose that!

They're not objectively bad, they're clean and well maintained, and are decent quality inside. I'd rather have these culturing a good community, than a bland tower cultivating isolationism.
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I believe BT tower had complaints from people in north Birmingham !
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The Sentinels lighting scheme was turned off when Optima reduced the service charge, due to rent increases from the Government rent restructuring policy.
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Old September 21st, 2016, 11:38 PM   #73
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I think the lights went off way before then Bob lol.
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Old September 21st, 2016, 11:55 PM   #74
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I like the sentinels. I seriously considered buying an apartment in them in about 2004.
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I think the lights went off way before then Bob lol.
Rent restructuring began in 2002, the lights went off soon after.
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Old September 30th, 2016, 06:15 PM   #76
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I don't think anyone's posted this yet, but this development does have a name now: "Bromsgrove House".

Some background info from thebusinessdesk.com dated 7th September:
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A GROUND-BREAKING ceremony has been held at Bromsgrove Street, Birmingham as work began on a student accommodation scheme.

Bromsgrove House will add another 140 studios and apartments in Southside area of the city and is scheduled to be ready for the arrival of students ahead of the 2017-18 academic year.

John Tebbutt, managing director of developer Birmingham Properties Group, said: "This will be our third student development in as many years and we see continued strong demand from both UK and overseas students seeking very high quality accommodation that is located in desirable areas."

The ceremony was attended by representatives from BPG, Shaylor, DBK Limited and Glenn Howells Architects.
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Old October 4th, 2016, 11:11 PM   #78
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Gonna be a nice canyon st this.
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Old October 4th, 2016, 11:23 PM   #80
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Thanks for the piuctures folks.

What`s the crap two storey building next door? It`s going to spoil the street scene even more than it already is.
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