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Old December 11th, 2018, 11:15 AM   #221
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Nako boss, mahabang storya yan ako din nalito na eh.

IIRC, it was mandaluyong who proposed the project first - mas shorter range ung sa kanila.

Then itong ating magaling na DOTC (Aquino Administration), pinakialaman at inextend hanggang Sta Mesa and Rizal daw--which was good, except that they did not implement it, in short, pasikat lang.

JICA conducted the feasibility study, NEDA approved na, but was later on scrapped, now back to zero na yata.

It's not yet clear whether the "technical assistance" is already for the implementation of the project or for another round of "feasibility studies". We'll have to wait to see, I guess.

Mas ok for me ung unsolicited proposal ni Zamora for LRT 4, mas tiwala lang talaga ako sa kakayahan ng private sector.
Not necessarily...

From what I read Mandaluyong first commissioned a study that Japan's Transportation Ministry conducted for a possible transit line that will serve Mandaluyong. What the Ministry recommended which Mandaluyong agreed to was a transit line from Santa Mesa, Manila to Taytay, Rizal, with 3 route options presented to Mandaluyong: Ortigas Avenue, Shaw Boulevard, or Boni Avenue.

However, the DOTC under (P)Abaya meddled with the plan and instead announced Line 4 which would run only from the Ortigas-EDSA area to Taytay. Naturally, Mandaluyong was pissed at DOTC not only for hijacking the project but also for leaving them out in the Line 4 route.

I'm just curious though as to why Mandaluyong has not made its sentiments heard throughout all this. This is their chance but they're not saying anything, especially that this is going to benefit them.
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Old December 11th, 2018, 11:21 AM   #222
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Thanks for essentially repeating what I just said, and adding more specific info
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Old December 11th, 2018, 12:03 PM   #223
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^I actually corrected some information you posted.

But whatever. Moving on...
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Old December 11th, 2018, 12:10 PM   #224
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^I actually corrected some information you posted.

But whatever. Moving on...
Yeah agreed, you "paraphrased" and then added.
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Old December 11th, 2018, 12:56 PM   #225
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in short words Pabaya Messed up everything w/in our rail transit from plans to existing ones
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Old December 12th, 2018, 01:17 AM   #226
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in short words Pabaya Messed up everything w/in our rail transit from plans to existing ones
gusto kasi nyan ipasok ang mga kapanalig nya na mga Oligarchs
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Old December 12th, 2018, 09:07 AM   #227
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gusto kasi nyan ipasok ang mga kapanalig nya na mga Oligarchs



Kung gusto umunlad ang bansang Pinas edi NO to LP !
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Old December 17th, 2018, 01:01 AM   #228
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He must pay for his sins! Preferably painful but non-lethal!
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Old December 18th, 2018, 10:44 AM   #229
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wouldn't this lane be included in the current admin's priority projects though? kahit sabihin natin na delayed, PNR south was modified accordingly within the restudy in prep for implementation.
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Old January 2nd, 2019, 04:32 PM   #230
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wouldn't this lane be included in the current admin's priority projects though? kahit sabihin natin na delayed, PNR south was modified accordingly within the restudy in prep for implementation.

Yes we seem to be lacking east west railway lines. LRT-2 East Extension is getting done but no West Extension yet?


East West Railway along Espana / Quezon Blvd is downgraded to a BRT.

All other rail projects are North South Oriented ie - MRT Rehab, JICA Subway, NSCR, even the C-5 LRT is North and South if it ever gets built.

On the DPWH front is North South again - Skyway Stage 3, NLEX Connector, C-6 Expressway - no east and west expressways.
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Old March 3rd, 2019, 02:58 PM   #231
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Sorry for bumping this currently inactive thread, but if this project were to be elevated rail and to pass along either Shaw or Boni based on the details I've read, there's going to be quite some issues with the right of way.

Shaw and Boni have very small medians. A large part of P. Sanchez / Shaw from Sta Mesa to Kalentong and to the crossing does not even have an island median to begin with. Boni has an island median, but it is very small.

Ortigas on the other hand has a wide enough island (except when it becomes Granada, then Gilmore) but then it would be a missed opportunity to cater to the Mandaluyong area. But then again, an Ortigas alignment would be able to go almost directly towards Taytay as seen in the alignment maps.

I feel like if this line were to exist, it must be underground.
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Old March 3rd, 2019, 03:49 PM   #232
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Well, I don't have the rendering handy but if an AGT were to be used, then they were actually to SQUEEZE the elevated guideway between Shangrila Plaza and the flyover, pretty much hugging the MRT3 Shaw Station, then continue on to Shaw towards Manila. The Japanese know what they are doing when it comes to these things and they specifically said Option 3 was bad even for the AGT because of the EDSA-Ortigas flyover, but guess what Joseph Emilio Aguinaldo Abaya chose back then...
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Old March 3rd, 2019, 03:51 PM   #233
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Well, I don't have the rendering handy but if an AGT were to be used, then they were actually to SQUEEZE the elevated guideway between Shangrila Plaza and the flyover, pretty much hugging the MRT3 Shaw Station, then continue on to Shaw towards Manila. The Japanese know what they are doing when it comes to these things and they specifically said Option 3 was bad even for the AGT because of the EDSA-Ortigas flyover, but guess what Joseph Emilio Aguinaldo Abaya chose back then...
Well, the specifications of the rolling stock aren't quite here yet, so I guess that's something for us to find out.

Hopefully it could be something small yet of high capacity.
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...I feel like if this line were to exist, it must be underground.
A Subway thru ODA could be a better option for this, since most of the areas are already built up and no more spaces for elevated guideways.
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Old March 4th, 2019, 06:45 AM   #235
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If the whole line is going to be underground, I hope it would be able to address the issue of flooding in the areas it will be traversing.

The area of Ortigas Extension from the Manggahan Floodway up to Valley Golf in Cainta, as well as in the Mandaluyong area near Kalentong (whether the line will take the Boni or Shaw route) are flood-prone areas, especially during heavy rains.
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Old March 4th, 2019, 07:49 AM   #236
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Ang best route for interconnectivity, whether gawin heavy rail or subway, would be via Shaw para may connection sa mrt Shaw Blvd and subway Ortigas South station.
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Old March 4th, 2019, 08:30 AM   #237
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Ang best route for interconnectivity, whether gawin heavy rail or subway, would be via Shaw para may connection sa mrt Shaw Blvd and subway Ortigas South station.
And it would make sense to connect this to Sta. Mesa PNR and nearby V. Mapa LRT2 station. Idamay na rin ang Pasig Ferry if it's not operational at the moment.
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Old March 5th, 2019, 08:48 AM   #238
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Sorry for bumping this currently inactive thread, but if this project were to be elevated rail and to pass along either Shaw or Boni based on the details I've read, there's going to be quite some issues with the right of way.

Shaw and Boni have very small medians. A large part of P. Sanchez / Shaw from Sta Mesa to Kalentong and to the crossing does not even have an island median to begin with. Boni has an island median, but it is very small.

Ortigas on the other hand has a wide enough island (except when it becomes Granada, then Gilmore) but then it would be a missed opportunity to cater to the Mandaluyong area. But then again, an Ortigas alignment would be able to go almost directly towards Taytay as seen in the alignment maps.

I feel like if this line were to exist, it must be underground.

Maybe it might be able to save on cost if the Manila-Pasig stretch is underground; the rest of the line starting near Ortigas Ave. cor Lanuza Ave. towards Rizal area can be overhead. At least pagtawid nya ng West Valley Fault sa intersection na yun above ground.

Mukha namang kumikilos na yung road widening activities sa Rizal area pati.
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Old March 5th, 2019, 02:44 PM   #239
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Ang best route for interconnectivity, whether gawin heavy rail or subway, would be via Shaw para may connection sa mrt Shaw Blvd and subway Ortigas South station.
Around sa area ng Capitol Commons ang Ortigas South station. Parang may nakita akong plan na ang ruta ng Line 4 sa Ortigas Center ay ang ADB-San Miguel Avenue alignment...unless magiging Shaw Pasig ang alignment nito tulad ng nakita ko sa ilang concept map.
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It's just so disappointing how this project is dead in the water. No chances of reviving it under this admin?
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