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Old December 16th, 2008, 01:32 AM   #2061
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Hooray. Glad common sense has prevailed in the Solihull planning comittees!
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Old December 16th, 2008, 01:34 AM   #2062
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THIS HAS BEEN APPROVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Absolutely brilliant news, a huge door unlocked!
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Old December 16th, 2008, 01:59 AM   #2063
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Solihull Council set to back runway extension
Dec 15 2008

SOLIHULL Council tonight said it was likely to back plans to extend the runway at Birmingham International Airport.

After a lengthy meeting of Solihull Council, members decided they would defer a final decision until they had received assurances that environmental concerns, including possible noise disruption for local residents, could be dealt with.

Business leaders and the airport say an extension is vital to bring in larger areoplanes to the city's airport.
is the press release.
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Old December 16th, 2008, 02:05 AM   #2064
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Does this not meet with Metrolink's approval? I am happily going to believe this news but not get too excited just in case....
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Old December 16th, 2008, 02:11 AM   #2065
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Birmingham Post report on it.

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Birmingham Airport runway extension plans approved
Dec 16 2008 By Patrice John

THE fight over Birmingham Airport’s controversial runway extension plans has swung in favour of local business leaders as planning bosses granted approval of the scheme.


Members of Solihull Council’s planning sub committee agreed the extension of the runway, subject to stringent planning gain constraints which must be agreed at a later meeting.

In a unanimous vote they agreed to grant planning permission providing the Section 106 agreement, which will contain constraints on noise pollution and protection of the environment, met their approval.

Speaking after the meeting committee chair Coun Stuart Davis said: “A lot of work has been done and we are mindful that we had to take into account the views of the Airport as well as the views of residents.

“I think the Council have succeeded in what they set out to achieve in that we were looking out for the residents through a proper 106 agreement, but we also had to consider the needs of the Airport and the business sector.

“Subject to the 106 agreement coming back and being accepted by the members this application will be approved.”

Birmingham Airport proposed building a 400 metre extension to a runway which they say will increase economic prospects and job creation in the region.

They also argue it will increase the connectivity of the region allowing Birmingham to compete on the ‘global stage.’

Paul Kehoe from BIA addressed the planning committee stating the extension of the runway was not like Stanstead or Heathrow, it was something for local people.

“We are not talking about Stanstead or Heathrow,” he said. “We are talking about an extension and we should see it in that context.

“This is a global opportunity that brings us connectivity but it does not just bring the West Midlands to the world, it brings the world to the West Midlands.

“It encourages local people to take local flights from their local airport.”

But there were arguments against the extension of the runway and Chris Crean from West Midlands Friends of Earth spoke about the damaging impact of climate change.

He said: “The Climate Change Act has changed the way we are going to make decisions about emissions. And the time is now for us to walk the talk on climate change and take decision that take climate change into account.

“I would urge you to pass a resolution to take this to full council. More people should look at this in full open and transparent manner.

“I would argue one of the most frightening things is how people have thought about the growth of passenger numbers.

“This is a large step in the wrong direction.

“We need to make planning applications that are fit for a climate change environment. I would urge you to ask for a public inquiry to be heard.”

Opposer Mark Jackson disputed claims by BIA that the extension would bring unprecedented economic growth to the West Midlands.

He also said the aviation industry was operating at a loss. He said: “This application asks you to weigh the economic and environmental benefits against each other.

“BIAs case is contradictory. Do not trust what people are saying.

“There is no evidence to say the West Midlands will become more desirable if this extension is granted.”
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Old December 16th, 2008, 02:16 AM   #2066
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Excellent news indeed. Solihull council is Tory run too isn't it?
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Old December 16th, 2008, 02:17 AM   #2067
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see... this is a much more accurate article
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Old December 16th, 2008, 02:20 AM   #2068
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Indeed. Metrolink - anything to add?
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Old December 16th, 2008, 02:50 AM   #2069
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I think this is the best Greater Birmingham development news for this generation
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Old December 16th, 2008, 03:14 AM   #2070
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Great news!

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Old December 16th, 2008, 04:57 AM   #2071
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Old December 16th, 2008, 12:13 PM   #2072
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BHX press release

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Runway Decision Deferred


Following the decision by Solihull Metropolitan Borough Council to defer Birmingham International Airport’s Planning Application to extend its runway subject to further negotiations, the CEO of the Airport, Paul Kehoe, said:

“The Airport Company is pleased that the Council is unanimously minded to approve the Airport's Planning Application subject to a further review of 106 Agreements that provide protection and reassurance for local people.

"Although it is disappointing that we did not get approval this evening, the Airport will continue the dialogue with Solihull Council so that a positive decision can be made early in the New Year.

“In the meantime, I would like to thank my team for their tireless work so far over the last two years, and to all of our supporters in the Region who have shown passion and support for our plans.”



The Airport’s current runway limits the range of long-haul destinations available, which currently include: the East Coast of America and some parts of the Middle East and India. A runway extension would allow the Airport to accommodate flights to the West Coast of America, South Africa, South America and Asia, and would go a long way in clawing back some 64% of demand which currently goes outside of the region for air travel.

Forecasts show that by 2030 Birmingham Airport will cater for 27 million people, with the runway extension accounting for four million of this number and leading to around one extra departure an hour from the airport. The four million extra passengers purely from a runway extension would be very important, bringing wealth and prosperity to the region through overseas investment and supporting regional commerce and tourism.

The development also has the potential to generate an extra 2610 new jobs for local people and enable it to trade with an extra 100 plus new global economies, providing regional economic growth and even more jobs in the region.

A positive decision would create real opportunities to enhance international trade for the Midlands. A runway is critical to the achievement of Birmingham’s aspirations to be a world city; through the air links it provides and the role it can play in attracting inward investment, fostering international trade, supporting regional business, commerce and industry, stimulating inbound tourism, and enhancing cultural links.



The environmental effects would be negligible after mitigation and compensation. All emissions would stay within acknowledged standards, natural habitats protected, no veteran trees lost, and other hedgerows and trees replaced locally. It would be part of a legally-binding agreement with the Council which the Airport would comply, as it always has.

Birmingham International Airport is a public/private partnership. The current shareholders include the seven West Midlands district councils (49%), Airport Group Investments Ltd. (AGIL), a limited company owned by the Ontario Teachers' Pension Plan (Teachers') and Australia’s Victorian Funds Management Corp. (VFMC)(48.25%) and the Employee Share Trust (2.75%).

It is the UK’s second largest airport outside London, the third largest for charter traffic, and the UK’s sixth largest overall. In 2007 9,232,496 passengers used the Airport, 0.9% more than in 2006.

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Old December 16th, 2008, 12:13 PM   #2073
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http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/80/airport...Statistics.pdf mostly very grim, but still some growth at Brum.
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Old December 16th, 2008, 02:52 PM   #2074
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VERY GOOD NEWS
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Old December 16th, 2008, 03:24 PM   #2075
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Approved or Deferred????

But is it approved or deferred?????? Is this news not as good as we thought????? And what with all the conflicting news that is coming out of this?????
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Old December 16th, 2008, 03:27 PM   #2076
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How is it confusing?

Solihull have deffered the decision until the new year, they are minded to approve, and will approve when some reports are made available, barring a surprise.

Lots of giddyness last night totally ignoring what really happened.

Out of interest, how does the economics of this work out? Are the budget airlines going to be happy paying for this extension given they will never use it?
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Old December 16th, 2008, 03:33 PM   #2077
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It better not be December 2009 when they are going to approve this 100%, more like January or Febrtuary 2009?????
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Old December 16th, 2008, 03:40 PM   #2078
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Metro,

A good question, not one that I guess any of us can answer as it will depend on the deals worked out. As I understand Ryanair have a deal that works on very low to zero charges dependant upon the passenger numbers they provide, not sure about FlyBe or Baby or indeed the legacy carriers. I can't see the airport ramping charges up to cover the cost so am making a possibly naive assumption that it's been costed within current cashflows. The next challenge could well be who will stump the cash up, is the airport looking at borrowing from banks to pay or will the owners invest the money? If it's the banks then this will be the next hurdle as they're not exactly falling over themsleves to lend money to the aviation industry....
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Old December 16th, 2008, 04:58 PM   #2079
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I read on another forum that the total cost is about £130m (which is what R2 at MAN cost about 10 years ago), and that would work out at about £10m / year in repayments over a 20 / 30 year loan.

Now, on 10m / year passengers, that equates to £1 / passenger to pay for something that in reality will only be used by a tiny tiny proportion of the flying public.

Would RyanAir accept a £1 / passenger / flight surcharge for something that they will never ever use? I doubt it.

I'm sure it'll get passed planning.

As I said last night, I am not 100% sure it'll get backing from Whitehall, and then, even if it is approved, and not torpedoed, the finances will not be as simple as they may have been when this project was dreamt up.
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Old December 16th, 2008, 05:43 PM   #2080
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Have the airport actually announced how they are going to extend it?

A45 Tunnel?, rerouting?

To be fair it may be in the start of the thread, but I've got a cold so cannot concentrate.
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