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Old December 18th, 2006, 02:05 PM   #61
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This is what they are going to look like:
Oh dear, why oh why oh why does suburban stock in this country only have four doors per carriage (two per side)?

Time to go for 6-8 doors per carriage in the future imo, would help with dwell times.
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Old December 18th, 2006, 06:16 PM   #62
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Are they booting SIlverlink off the North London Line then?

They should, theyr'e sh*t.

Technical query for the spods amongst you - I assume those new suburban-style trains shown above run on what is now the ELL? As discussed above, the ELL (Despite being overground) currently runs London Underground Met Line rolling stock. Wil the power system on the ELL need to be upgraded or altered?
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Old December 19th, 2006, 04:45 AM   #63
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Are they booting SIlverlink off the North London Line then?

They should, theyr'e sh*t.

Technical query for the spods amongst you - I assume those new suburban-style trains shown above run on what is now the ELL? As discussed above, the ELL (Despite being overground) currently runs London Underground Met Line rolling stock. Wil the power system on the ELL need to be upgraded or altered?
silverlink will no longer operate on the north london line from 2007 tfl are currently looking for a new operator that will run it on their behalf. the entire infrastructure of the ell will be upgraded to link it with the nll part of the overground line and the national rail networks that it will be extended onto in south london
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just incase anybody hasnt seen it theres a video about the expansion of ell/overground by tfl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EsBLCvj2g4
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Thanks for that, hadn't seen that
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Old January 15th, 2007, 02:54 PM   #66
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silverlink will no longer operate on the north london line from 2007 tfl are currently looking for a new operator that will run it on their behalf. the entire infrastructure of the ell will be upgraded to link it with the nll part of the overground line and the national rail networks that it will be extended onto in south london
Those trains are basically the same as the class 376 on southeastern and are 3rd rail - I'm not sure if they'll be exactly the same though it would make sense as the ELL is to be running over NR track for a lot of it. As I understand NR is 750v DC but the underground is 630v DC. THE person to ask is the Tubeman on this thread:
https://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=285084
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Those trains are basically the same as the class 376 on southeastern and are 3rd rail - I'm not sure if they'll be exactly the same though it would make sense as the ELL is to be running over NR track for a lot of it. As I understand NR is 750v DC but the underground is 630v DC. THE person to ask is the Tubeman on this thread:
https://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=285084
TfL wants to make the subsurface lines 750v DC. I imagine the ELL is going that way anyway...
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Question for those in the know: Once TfL takes over the NLL (and eventually the ELLE), will the stations also be completely controlled by them? Right now, London suburban rail stations are either controlled by Network Rail (the main termini) or by the main train company running services through the particular station. Since a lot of the stations will have both Overground and say, Southern railways using them, who will be ulitmately responsible for their upkeep and providing the staff?
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Question for those in the know: Once TfL takes over the NLL (and eventually the ELLE), will the stations also be completely controlled by them? Right now, London suburban rail stations are either controlled by Network Rail (the main termini) or by the main train company running services through the particular station. Since a lot of the stations will have both Overground and say, Southern railways using them, who will be ulitmately responsible for their upkeep and providing the staff?
Tfl will be in control, they're getting the new overground logo (the orange roundel), they will be staffed etc.
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Question for those in the know: Once TfL takes over the NLL (and eventually the ELLE), will the stations also be completely controlled by them? Right now, London suburban rail stations are either controlled by Network Rail (the main termini) or by the main train company running services through the particular station. Since a lot of the stations will have both Overground and say, Southern railways using them, who will be ulitmately responsible for their upkeep and providing the staff?

In the Mayor's plan the intention is for TfL to be able to run commuter services so I imagine this is a kickoff for any real handover all running all services.
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Render of Shoreditch High Street station:

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Was the brief to design it to look like a prison? I don't get it...
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Better to have no design as per dlr stations, than that. I wonder how safe people will feel at night in that.
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Looks incredibly cheap, especially with what looks like grey plastic cladding. It's Shoreditch High Street and is therefore in one of London's trendiest areas, so why the dull design, something funky is needed.
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And why create that new green space just to erect eight-foot fences round it?

Anyone know how likely it is this will be the final design? And... who's responsible for this one?
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Looks a Le Corbussier vision
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Looks a Le Corbussier vision
Did someone mention Le Corbusier? Emoticons that sum up my feelings about this blithering *****:



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Ah but he built that lovely church for those Nun's.
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Have no fear! I think the plans for Bishopsgate Goodsyard include completely surrounding this building on all sides and above. So this is basically a box to protect the railway, a bit like City Thameslink station is, so that it can be running the whole time while construction goes on around it. Short of an economic collapse then this should be fully covered up in 5-10 years. Looks like the bridge is styled ever so slightly, could be worse. The bridge will be very much on show being at the top of the main street through the City.

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