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Old April 13th, 2019, 04:28 PM   #5781
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Under new gov..tak salah lah klo nok reroute Putrajaya station to that Sentral station
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Old April 13th, 2019, 04:53 PM   #5782
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HSR uses standard guage, I assume ECRL is also standard guage so somewhere in Selangor near putrajaya ECRL can connect to HSR line to reach Bandar Malaysia.

Does HSR in Europe share tracks with other trains, they do share train staion

HSR and and ECRL will intersect somewhere near putrajaya

So ,

Ecrl - standard gauge
Serendah Bypass - meter gauge
Gemas jb - meter gauge
HSR - standard gauge
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Old April 13th, 2019, 05:06 PM   #5783
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Do you think it would have been better if HSR and ECRL is planned to be integrated in terms of a shared station at Bandar Malaysia terminus

ECRL now is souther route
HSR uses standard guage, I assume ECRL is also standard guage so somewhere in Selangor near putrajaya ECRL can connect to HSR line to reach Bandar Malaysia.

Does HSR in Europe share tracks with other trains, they do share train staion

HSR and and ECRL will intersect somewhere near putrajaya
Not sure bout Europe but I think the Korean HSR do share track in some sections with normal train.

Also I think ECRL is the name of the railway line and not the service provided. The train can go from jurong to KB, jurong - klia if we wanted to
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Old April 13th, 2019, 08:10 PM   #5784
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Good move, there is no way to further delay the "Project Review" of this KL-SG HSR as we need to make a wise decision within a year.

Since the ECRL has been re-route to the south bound, I'd like to suggest the ECRL track should pass through and have a station at KLIA. The same thing goes to KL-SG HSR.

Placing a HSR station at the previously proposed Putrajaya HSR station is a silly idea. Please re-route the HSR track alignment to KLIA and connect with ECRL at KLIA. This will bring a huge number of passengers from north-east of Kelantan, Terengganu, Pahang, from south of Johor, Melaka and N9. The interconnection of freight from west to east to the air transportation as well.

I'd suggest the KLIA station to be located somewhere boundary between N9 and Selangor. N9 to share with KLIA, there is unnecessary to have Labu and Putrajaya HSR station anymore.

In short, the number of station can be reduced to 6 i.e. Iskandar Puteri, Batu Pahat, Muar, Melaka, KLIA and Bandar Malaysia.

Yes, station at Putrajaya is dumb.
If you have a station near Bandar Enstek (that's the border town you're alluding to, closer to KLIA), it's still a bit far away from the airport terminals, need to have shuttle buses just to connect people there.


Instead I think they should fully leverage the ERL. Either build interchange station at Salak Tinggi, or extend the ERL to the HSR station serving Seremban, wherever that may be in the future. Putrajaya will be indirectly served.
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Old April 14th, 2019, 06:19 AM   #5785
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According to MVV plan, ERL will extend to Seremban HSR station in Labu lah so you can directly connect with KLIA from Seremban HSR

ERL got plan to connect Melaka via Seremban last year.
https://www.bharian.com.my/berita/na...ngga-ke-melaka
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Old April 14th, 2019, 05:25 PM   #5786
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Current alignment requires a tunnel from Bandar Malaysia to Sg Besi toll which PH govt has a phobia at the moment.

Since YTL is friends of Mahathir, he loves KLIA and cut some cost, high probability that alignment from Bandar Malaysia to KLIA shared with ERL. There is sufficient reserve to quad track ERL from KLIA to Bandar Malaysia. Unfortunately very narrow from Seputeh to KL Sentral. However to serve KLIA, MVV and Seremban has to be bypassed or otherwise there will be great U-Turn in alignment. Instead the HSR will better serve Port Dickson and Rantau (Ha Ha!) before going towards Ayer Keroh.

Another option is to split track from Salak Tinggi towards Labu and MVV. This will provide some profit to YTL and people has to change train at Salak Tinggi / Putrajaya and buy ERL tickets.
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Old April 14th, 2019, 05:29 PM   #5787
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If I'm not mistake, Singapore not agree if HSR get through KLIA. Msia pernah proposed dulu.
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Old April 14th, 2019, 05:32 PM   #5788
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then option B will prevail. Win-win situation for YTL and Singapore, less convenient for Seremban/Melaka pax going to Airport.
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Old April 14th, 2019, 05:34 PM   #5789
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Old April 14th, 2019, 05:39 PM   #5790
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By Logically, different rail operator (YTL and MyHSR Corp) can not share the same track due to some reasons. Let hope they can interchange at somewhere je. Rail infra is a MUST integrate at all dimensions.
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Singapore never said they object to hsr serving Klia officially. It is afterall a Malaysia domestic affairs. So they always said publicly that the alligment in Malaysia is Malaysia own affairs.

I say bring the HSR to klia. Who freaking care about labu.
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Old April 14th, 2019, 05:53 PM   #5792
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Singapore never said directly but between both affairs telah ada 'something' kena reject the plan.

Labu dah terpilih jadi strategic HSR nanti coz MVV dah mooted terkini.
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Singapore never said they object to hsr serving Klia officially. It is afterall a Malaysia domestic affairs. So they always said publicly that the alligment in Malaysia is Malaysia own affairs.

I say bring the HSR to klia. Who freaking care about labu.
Singapore will not object how Malaysia run the domestically as long as the KL-Singapore and Iskandar-Singapore route is not affected because all these stations will need to have an Co-CIQ facilities.

And I do foresee that HSR could on day be connected to Changi as well and this will make it easier for Malaysians living in southern side to travel via Changi
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Old April 15th, 2019, 06:42 AM   #5794
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wow ramainya 'expert'. Putrajaya station is what? dumb? and you propose the station to be in Bandar Enstek? r u serious? omg
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wow ramainya 'expert'. Putrajaya station is what? dumb? and you propose the station to be in Bandar Enstek? r u serious? omg
Ni baru SSC, belum lagi netizen FB Che Det atau DSN. Bukan saja ada doctorate, ada multiple PHDs dan master combined.

So otaibesar, apa you punya idea pulak?
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Dr M: Malaysia does not need high-speed rail … for now

CYBERJAYA: Malaysia does not feel that a high-speed rail (HSR) system is necessary for now, says Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad.

The Prime Minister said the country's main focus right now would be to improve its existing rail system through electrification and double-tracking.

“At the moment, a high-speed rail is not too necessary, especially if it is just between Singapore and Kuala Lumpur.

“So we won't build the HSR just yet.

“But we will want to improve the quality and the services of our existing railway system.

“That can be done, and has been done to some extent by double-tracking and electrification.

“Electrification also does not pollute the environment and, at the same time, allows us to travel at high speed.

“With double-tracking on our railways, this will allow trains to pass each other without having to stop,” said Dr Mahathir, during a question and answer session at a dialogue with the Malaysia Rail Industry Corporation here Tuesday (April 16).

Dr Mahathir also spoke about the possibility of a high-speed rail from Johor Baru all the way to Penang, and possibly, the border of Thailand.

However, he said this was not discussed with Singapore, adding that the arrangement between the two countries was just for the service to be between Singapore and Kuala Lumpur.


Last September, Malaysia and Singapore agreed to a two-year suspension on the HSR project, which ends in May 2020.

The government has reimbursed S$15mil (RM45.6mil) to Singapore for suspending the project.


Read more at https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nati...HJtqChRrp1v.99
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Old April 16th, 2019, 09:20 AM   #5798
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Klo Mahathir style dia aware sgt terhadap Singapore...people know it well.

Mcm pernah dengar kata klo bina HSR...just only benefit Singapore je!
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Old April 16th, 2019, 04:43 PM   #5799
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Atok says no need HSR. Can put back thus thread in the fridge until May 2020 and see what happens.
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Old April 16th, 2019, 05:08 PM   #5800
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Atok says need HSR but not between S'pore & KL - he says it should between JB-KL-Penang (& maybe thru' to Bangkok) loor !!!



ps he sure don't like S'pore to have any 'advantage' meh hahaha !!!

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