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Old February 4th, 2010, 07:23 AM   #41
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Ahmedabad-Gandhinagar bus service

Ahmedabad-Ganmdhinagar metro rail will take long time for reality. But till then GSRTC should provide good quality buses between these two cities.
The frequency is quite good, but the quality of the buses is very poor. The doors of the buses should be broad at least.
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Old February 15th, 2010, 08:04 AM   #42
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MD to be appointed for MEGA

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Ahmedabad: The metro rail project between Ahmedabad and Gandhinagar has been put on the fast track with Gujarat Urban Development Corporation (GUDC) finally giving the go-ahead for appointing a managing director for Metro-link Express for Gandhinagar and Ahmedabad (MEGA), the special purpose vehicle that would implement the project .
The MDs post is contractual and has to be renewed every five years. The maximum age limit for the post is 55 years. The final scrutiny of applications would be made on March 12 this year.
The eligible candidate for the job should have extensive experience in formulating, structuring, financing and implementing railway projects , preferably the metro rail. The MD would be responsible for selecting his team members and is expected to liaise with central and state government agencies and other stakeholders. The other responsibilities of the job will include handling land acquisition issues, regulatory framework for railways , modal integration and financing of mega projects.
The project feasibility study by Delhi Metro Rail Corporation (DMRC) is on the final stages of submission. The company, MEGA, was planned to begin operations some months back, but critical appointments, like that of an MD, were required, said a senior officer in the urban development department.
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Old February 17th, 2010, 07:33 AM   #43
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Route change

Plans are to change route of Ahmedabad Metro

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Ahmedabad: A paradigm shift has taken place in the latest Ahmedabad-Gandhinagar metro rail plans. The Delhi Metro Rail Corporation (DMRC) has submitted a detailed project report (DPR) to the state government which now wants a portion of the Thaltej- Kalupur metro line in the first phase to go underground .
Not only this, the state government has proposed that the 10.9 km East-West metro line be shifted from the Income Tax-Shahpur Darwaza-Delhi Darwaza-Prem DarwazaKalupur line towards Relief road. Officials from the DMRC and the state government have been discussing the inclines, gradients, alignments for the purpose.
In fact, talks of a special hydraulic platform with a small gradient that would gradually take a stationary metro train to the tunnel level on Relief Road-Kalupur stretch is also being proposed for this line.
High commercial activity on Relief road and proximity to Lal Darwaza bus station are the major reasons why planners from the state urban development department have desired this change in the route plans. In fact, in the small stretch from the beginning of Relief road towards Kalupur railway station , the metro rail will go underground.
In the 2005 report, DMRC had envisioned a complete elevated system for the city. However, heavy passenger traffic on Relief road, growing traffic concerns and constriction of space in the walled city have led to the urgent need to go underground, like in certain areas in Delhi .
Issues like Archaeological Survey of India (ASI) regulations and guidelines are being looked into while considering construction of metro route, while stability of old structures in the walled city will also be examined . The alignment is being looked into as the state government had demanded the Relief road approach, said a senior official of the state urban development department .
Two months back, the 32.65 km North-South Ahmedabad-Gandhinagar line was proposed to be shifted from Ashram road to the parallel regional rail network line of Western railways as there was no space on Ashram road. Other reasons were that the state government had declared Sabarmati Ashram as a silent zone and there is a lack of space for some of the major metro stations Usmanpura and three stations planned between RTO circle and Paldi. In fact, DMRC had earlier suggested a Sabarmati Ashram station just opposite the entrance of the Ashram.
The metro route will be unchanged till Sabarmati station but then instead of going towards RTO, the new route is proposed to turn towards Ranip, Naranpura, Gandhigram, Ambawadi, Vejalpur and Sarkhej railway line, the official added.
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Old March 14th, 2010, 04:02 AM   #44
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Soon ride monorail from Income Tax to Kalupur

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The Gujarat government finally zeroed in on a mono rail to connect one of the busiest sections of the city — the railway station at Kalupur and Income Tax circle.

After debating over setting up an elevated metro rail system to connect this part of the city with the BRTS and other modes of transport, the government decided on the mono rail as a more financially viable option than an elevated metro, although this service will be connected to the metro rail.


The metro railway is expected to run between Thaltej and Income Tax circle. The four kilometre stretch of the mono rail will run over the high density traffic zones of Shahpur and Delhi Darwaja.

Officials said the decision to have mono rail was taken after its successful trial run in Mumbai. “Apart from the cost effectiveness, the space taken up by the mono rail was even less as compared to the metro,” said a state government official. If the mono rail costs around Rs 85 crore per km, the metro costs over Rs 150 crore.

The Delhi Metro Rail Corporation (DMRC) submitted a detailed project report to the state government which wants the portion of the Thaltej- Kalupur metro line in the first phase to go underground. The state government has also proposed that the 10.9 km east-west metro line be shifted from the Income Tax circle towards Relief Road.

A senior officer, who is involved in the planning, said the mono rail would also be a shorter train as compared to the metro. Metro rail service has the capacity to take 40,000 passengers per hour during peak hours, but mono rail, which moves on a single track, can carry only 10,000 passengers per hour.

The advantage is that the mono rail can ride over busy and overcrowded areas which metro train cannot, and keeps a speed of 65 km per hour, going up to 80 km at a stretch.
So, basically, this just means they have decided that that monorail is more suitable in the Historic part of the City. Pretty much just a Metro-feeder shuttle service from Kalupur-Income Tax.

Whether it is Metro or Monorail will not make too much difference as long everything is well integrated with Metro at Income Tax and Mainline Rail at Kalupur as well as BRTS.
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Old March 14th, 2010, 05:08 AM   #45
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A hydraulic platform to move stationary trains from above ground to below ground? Well, I guess anything is possible when a minister is doing hash.
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Old March 15th, 2010, 02:19 PM   #46
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A hydraulic platform to move stationary trains from above ground to below ground? Well, I guess anything is possible when a minister is doing hash.
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Old June 13th, 2010, 06:15 PM   #47
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Metro rail only for west Ahmedabad

AHMEDABAD: The proposed metro rail project is now slated exclusively for the west Ahmedabad. The state government has shelved plans to connect the metro to Kalupur from Income-Tax circle. Earlier, plans for an underground metro rail on Relief Road were also shelved because of the sheer density of the Archaelogical Survey of India (ASI) protected monuments on this stretch.

The state government has now zeroed in on the mono rail as the nearly 4-km stretch passing through Shahpur and Delhi Darwaja is highly congested. Railway officials told TOI that the mono rail would further be connected to the metro rail which would be between Thaltej and Income Tax circle.

An official from the state government said that under the new plan, the metro rail would be exclusively for the western part of the city and would not cross the Sabarmati river except for the sole trip to the airport.

He said that the decision to have mono rail was taken after the successful trial run in Mumbai and its cost effectiveness. Officials said that mono rail was costing around Rs 85 crore per km while the metro project was estimated to be over Rs 150 crore for the same stretch.

A senior state government officials who is involved in planning of the project said that though monorail requires less space, it is also a smaller train as compared to metro. Metro rail has the capacity to carry 40,000 passengers per hour during peak hours, while mono rail which moves on a single track can carry only 10,000 passengers per hour at peak hours.

He said metro has already seen a paradigm shift with passage of time. The state government had, barely a month back proposed that the 10.9 km East-West metro line be shifted from the Income Tax circle towards Relief Road to go underground, and now it's proposing a mono rail.

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Delhi made it possible under the much denser chandni chowk area, Ahmedabad is nothing compared to that. And I wonder how will they build an interchange station OVER Gandhi Bridge crossroads.
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Old June 13th, 2010, 07:02 PM   #48
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It seems that are looking for excuses to save money. Underground metro can go under any dense part of the city. At Chawri Bazar in Delhi (near Chandni chowk), the metro goes directly under the houses and not even streets. Monorail will not be able to cope up with future traffic projections.
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Old June 14th, 2010, 01:12 AM   #49
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thats exactly my point.
They are repeating the same mistake as mumbai. And they are justifying it as well.
Why don't our planners think for 50 years down the line.
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Old June 14th, 2010, 05:48 AM   #50
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thats exactly my point.
They are repeating the same mistake as mumbai. And they are justifying it as well.
Why don't our planners think for 50 years down the line.
Guys,
Relax. ASI is a big pain in the ass.
If there are norms that state that the UN Heritage and Archelogical sites can get disturbed then there may be some truth to it.

Even Asterdam shelved the plans of Metro Rail underground 40 yrs back due to the same reasons and there was some talk to revive it recently.

So to get started, get the ball rolling.
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Old June 14th, 2010, 09:50 AM   #51
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If metro can be built under ROME and ISTANBUL 30 years ago, which is not only full of archeological sites, but also hilly, I guess Ahmedabad's old city should not be a big problem.
It would rather help revive the old city by making it more accessible to the other parts of the city.
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Old June 14th, 2010, 12:19 PM   #52
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Imagine a train going under the pols and all those places. But i guess that would never happen. but then i was thinking about it, dont you think there would be a hell of a traffic jam if they start work on the east part of the city. Like there is already less space to move around and on top they will do some digging. But anyways what do you think goes well with the old buildings, A metro passing by or a smaller monorail going by, that is ONLY if they build the metro above ground (IF they do). I mean in my opinion if you imagine a monorail going past in the core areas of the city it would look nicer. BUT i think underground would be Awesome if they do it!!
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Underground metro does not requires digging if done by tunnel boring machines.
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Old June 15th, 2010, 04:18 PM   #54
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Please make this fact known to the city authorities. I bet they are studying the way underground was made in London more than a century ago, and so denying the possibility of building one in ahmedabad.
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Firstly, I assume by "subway" they mean "station" unless the UG route is the favoured approach right now.


From DNAepaper Ahm edition 18/08/10 pg4

Just to summarise

120-150Cr/km = Monorail
170Cr/km = Elevated Metro
250Cr/km = UG Metro

So roughly 3.5K Cr overall difference between elevated and UG for the initial 44km routes. No indication as to what kind of UG tunnel-boring process was taken into consideration when coming to that 250Cr/km figure.
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Won't it be all elevated as discussed in past ?
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Old August 19th, 2010, 12:54 AM   #57
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Well, as was hinted at in posts 43, 44, with minor adjustments/tweaks etc, from this it would now seem as though the DPR submitted by DMRC has led to almost a complete rethink in terms of route and type of MRT/LRT.

There have been various proposals so far, but would assume that whatever they end up deciding now that they have the DMRC report will be the final decision, then I guess its time for the bids - which at an educated guess, I would expect to be no earlier than the Vibrant Gujarat summit in January.
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Old August 31st, 2010, 01:53 PM   #58
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x-posting from Ahmedabad Projects thread, originally posted by Vibrant.

Destination Ahmedabad: global infra giants eye metro project

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The Rs 11,000-crore Ahmedabad-Gandhinagar metro rail project has started attracting infrastructure biggies from across the globe. Nearly half a dozen leading infrastructure firms have shown interest in the project which, at a later stage, aims to link Ahmedabad and Gandhinagar with Dholera.

French firm Veolia Transport, Japan's Marubeni Corporation consortium, Bombardier- Delhi Metro Rail Corporation (DMRC) consortium and Indian infrastructure major L&T are among the companies that have come forward to develop the project.

While the state government through Gujarat Infrastructure Development Board (GIDB) has mandated DMRC to prepare a detailed project report for the project, Gujarat Urban Development Corporation has been nominated as the nodal agency for implementing the project.

"The companies have come up with their own models. Various structures, including the public private partnership format, are being evaluated. The government will finalise a PPP model in some time," said a government official. The project is likely to be implemented within three years once the work starts.

The metro, which would be designed to carry 40,000 passengers per hour — an estimated 17 lakh commuters are expected to use the service daily by 2031 — would connect Vasna to Akshardham via Ashram Road, Koba Circle (32.65 km) with 31 stations, and Ahmedabad junction to Thaltej via Delhi Darwaja (10.90 km) with 11 stations, in the first phase.


Veolia, which manages several transport systems across the world including the Paris Metro, wants to build the project through its Indian subsidiary, Veolia Transport RATP India Pvt Ltd. In Asia, Veolia Transport RATP operates the Seoul metro line, Hong Kong tramway and will operate India's first private metro system, Mumbai Metro Line.

Marubeni is one of the many Japanese companies interested in Gujarat, which falls along the Delhi-Mumbai Industrial Corridor. Bombardier already manufactures coaches for the Delhi Metro in Gujarat.

A leading UK-based company, which has built metro projects across the world, too has shown interest in the project.
Interestingly, the Rs 11,000 Cr figure if divided by the 44km length gives Rs 250 Cr/km... the figure quoted for the completely UG option as per the previous news
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Old September 7th, 2010, 05:39 AM   #59
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Lets hope every thing gets finalized before it is scrapped by congress.
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Ahmedabad to get Metro Rail link
AHMEDABAD: The ambitious Ahmedabad Metro project will soon get on the fast track as surveys and the detailed project reports on the rail link, with Gandhinagar in the first phase, are in their final stages.

"Studies are on whether an underground Metro line is possible in old areas of the city connecting Kalupur railway station to Income tax Circle," Urban Development Secretary B K Sinha told reporters.

The First Phase plan of the Metro Rail project is to facilitate movement between the city and Gandhinagar, Gujarat Infrastructure Development Board (GIDB) officials said.

"Preparation of Detailed Project Report (DPR) for Metro Rail system for Ahmedabad and Gandhinagar was initiated by GIDB in 2003 through Delhi Metro Rail Corporation (DMRC) and Rail India Technical and Economic Services (RITES). The DPR was submitted by DMRC in June 2005," officials said.

However, the project was put on back foot as the state decided to implement the Bus Rapid Transit System (BRTS)first.

In 2008, considering developments in and around Ahmedabad-Gandhinagar, it was decided to go ahead with the Metro Rail Project, officials said.

The rapidly progressing city of Ahmedabad had lacked a credible public transport system in the beginning of 2001, when local city bus service 'Ahmedabad Municipal Transport Service'(AMTS), was in dire straits. Following this, the Gujarat government had begun the BRTS project.

Now, the Metro, which would be designed to carry 40,000 passengers per hour --- an estimated 17 lakh commuters are expected to use the service daily -- would connect Vasna to Akshardham via Ashram Road, Koba Circle (32.65 km) with 31 stations, and Ahmedabad junction to Thaltej via Delhi Darwaja (10.90 km) with 11 stations, in the First Phase.
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