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Old February 4th, 2012, 12:25 AM   #1
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Pitt Street Student Accommodation . . .


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What do you think about a new thread for the St. James's Point student accommodation? As there's another development with the same name (and its own thread), perhaps "St. James's Point (Pitt street)" would be appropriate?

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Yes, if a 'suitable sized' project emerges out of the Student Accommodation Discussion thread, then (in the same way as it happens with our other "Area Developments" type threads) an individual Project Thread is usually a good idea.

I'm not sure if there are any other Student Accommodation constructions/refurbishments (that have reached actual construction stage) that have 'remained' on the Student Accommodation thread, for coverage?

If so, and people think they should have their own thread (also) then let me know and I can transfer in all old/pre-existing posts . . . (?)

Skyscrapercity do want us to (where possible for actual PROJECTS) cover them on separate 'Project Threads' as it aids the use of Internet search engines / Google-type searches, etc.

This is an extract from a post (on the 'Moderator Forums' recently) from Jan, the Skyscrapercity.com owner . . .

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This is just a general reminder that if possible one should try to create separate threads for separate Projects. The reason is that search engines are better at properly indexing threads about specific topics, and more importantly, you often can't find anything in long compilation / multi-project threads. cheers!
Anyway, back to Pitt Street.

Perhaps, partially because of the existence of the other "St James' Point" thread, we should lay the emphasis - in the Thread Title - on Pitt Street?

Also, there does seem to potentially be more than one 'Student Accomodation' Project on Pitt Street, see -

https://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=264

So, perhaps something like . . .

Pitt Street Student Accommodation | Newcastle | Various | U/C

What do you think?
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Yes I think there has been sufficient activity in the past months and in the future for the creation of a separate Pitt Street Student Accommodation | Newcastle | Various | U/C. However it would be good if posts connected to Pitt Street could be kept to that thread rather than being copied over into the general Student Accommodation thread as I find the duplication can be a bit annoying and my finger has do enough clicking as it is
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So, I'll get on with the 'fully backdated' Project Thread ASAP!

HERE it is then folks.

Hope I captured all the relevant pre-existing "Pitt Street Student Accommodation" posts, there was quite a lot of them, on various threads . . .

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Old February 23rd, 2012, 09:34 PM   #2
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Former Magpie Club

Been a long time coming but finally after many a year stood as an empty plot there has been a Planning Application lodged for the former Magpie Club (Magpie Pub) site on the corner of Barrack Road and Pitt Street:

2012/0224/01/DET | Erection of 10 storey building accommodating 214 studio apartments for students and hard and soft landscaping | Former Magpies Club Pitt Street Newcastle upon Tyne
http://publicaccess.newcastle.gov.uk...=LYAXG7BSAP000
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 10:46 PM   #3
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Been a long time coming but finally after many a year stood as an empty plot there has been a Planning Application lodged for the former Magpie Club (Magpie Pub) site on the corner of Barrack Road and Pitt Street:

2012/0224/01/DET | Erection of 10 storey building accommodating 214 studio apartments for students and hard and soft landscaping | Former Magpies Club Pitt Street Newcastle upon Tyne
http://publicaccess.newcastle.gov.uk...=LYAXG7BSAP000
Is that building to be called 'St James' Point' - making a bit of a point there then!

So not called 'Sports Direct Point'?

There are also some YHN flats on the opposite side of Pitt Street which may eventually be coming down due to the new development in the West End.
I always thought that land would be used for student flats.
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St James' Point



Well spotted!

extract fromSupporting Statement:

'Storeys Edward Symmons has been appointed by Crosslane Student Living to
submit a planning application for student accommodation on the site of the
Former Magpie Club, Pitt Street, Newcastle. The site is currently vacant, the
former Magpie Club building having been demolished some years ago.
Crosslane has an agreement to purchase the site from the Newcastle United
Football Club (NUFC), subject to receiving planning permission'

If NUFC are now nearly solvent (leaving aside the £140M debt to MikeAshley) I wonder if he would consider upping the capacity to 60,000?

I also thought the club owned the Gallowgate car park area but of course the Super Casino development was knocked back nationally so that plan was shelved.
Does the club still own the land I wonder?
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Old June 25th, 2012, 10:56 AM   #5
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Former Magpie Club - Pitt Street

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Been a long time coming but finally after many a year stood as an empty plot there has been a Planning Application lodged for the former Magpie Club (Magpie Pub) site on the corner of Barrack Road and Pitt Street:

2012/0224/01/DET | Erection of 10 storey building accommodating 214 studio apartments for students and hard and soft landscaping | Former Magpies Club Pitt Street Newcastle upon Tyne
http://publicaccess.newcastle.gov.uk...=LYAXG7BSAP000
Was passing this site on Saturday, 23rd June 2012 and noticed that this window arch from the former Magpie Club remains which given the demolition of the rest of the building struck me as rather strange. Some sort of 'memorial' to the Magpie?







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Old June 25th, 2012, 11:32 AM   #6
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Photograph of the barren site - 23rd June 2012.



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Old July 15th, 2012, 11:06 PM   #7
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Photograph of the barren site - 23rd June 2012.

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Just looking at that photo here.They surely could have knocked down the flats ,substation and run down buildings between downing plaza and the building which houses the law firm-they don't fit in at all.
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The flats, Hill Court will be coming down at some stage.
NCC (YHN) are buiding new accommodation at Wentworth Court in the west end.

The land in the forground is the subject of a planning application - from memory it's St James' Point?

Think the sub-station will have to remain.
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Not quite, St James Point (now to be known as Sports Direct Arena Point) is on the other side of the ground, next to Barker and Stonehouse

https://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=981880

IIRC that triangle of land is mooted for more student res. Nice view of the sub-station they'll have as well....
Of course its not helped by the fact that there are proposed developments of student accommodation, both named as St James' Point at Strawberry Place and at Pitt Street.

Strawberry Place - http://publicaccess.newcastle.gov.uk...=LMPSONBSAP000
2011/0896/01/DET | Demolition of disused electrical substation and construction of seven storey building incorporating new substation and bar/restaurant (Class A3/A4) on ground and first floor and five storeys above of student residential accommodation comprising 32 bedrooms in 13 flats (class C3/C4) as amended by plans received 16 and 18 November and 5 December 2011 and supplemented by e mails received 30/8/11, 31/8/11 and 6/9/11 and photo images received 1/12/11 and 5/12/11 | Site Of NEDL Electricity Sub-Station Strawberry Place Newcastle upon Tyne

Pitt Street - http://publicaccess.newcastle.gov.uk...=LYAXG7BSAP000
2012/0224/01/DET | Erection of 10 storey building accommodating 214 studio apartments for students and hard and soft landscaping as amended by plans received 3, 4 and 17 April 2012 | Former Magpies Club Pitt Street Newcastle upon Tyne
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Demolition of 3 x 5 storeys block of residential flats, Hill Court, Pitt Street, Newcastle upon Tyne

This as "Granted" on NCC Planning Portal 30/10/12

2012/1144/01/NOD

Notification of Demolition: Demolition of 3 x 5 storeys block of residential flats and grassing over of site

1 - 60 Hill Court Pitt Street Newcastle upon Tyne

http://publicaccess.newcastle.gov.uk...=M9TF6XBS09700


Start Date 05/11/12 with completion scheduled for 22/02/13

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23rd June 2012.



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The flats, Hill Court will be coming down at some stage.
NCC (YHN) are buiding new accommodation at Wentworth Court in the west end.

The land in the forground is the subject of a planning application - think the sub-station will have to remain.

Further to the above . . .


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Originally Posted by Adrian_Swall; 5th September 2012, Planning Apps Thread
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NCC Planning Application submitted...http://publicaccess.newcastle.gov.uk...=M9TF6XBS09700

This may open up some land for further development?

Wentworth Court in the West End is the huge replacement for this emergency accommodation facilty.

NOW (Today, 30th October 2012) . . .


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This as "Granted" on NCC Planning Portal 30/10/12

2012/1144/01/NOD

Notification of Demolition: Demolition of 3 x 5 storeys block of residential flats and grassing over of site

1 - 60 Hill Court Pitt Street Newcastle upon Tyne

http://publicaccess.newcastle.gov.uk...=M9TF6XBS09700


Start Date 05/11/12 with completion scheduled for 22/02/13

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Pitt Street

New planning application received for another Pitt Street (opposite Sports Direct...er... St James' Park) student development.

http://publicaccess.newcastle.gov.uk...=MCPU3CBSAP000

This is in addition to the St James Point development immediately adjacent.

With Hill Court closure and demolition imminent this area will be a hive of activity soon..ish.

Linked to the below . . .

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23rd June 2012.



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The flats, Hill Court will be coming down at some stage.
NCC (YHN) are buiding new accommodation at Wentworth Court in the west end.

The land in the forground is the subject of a planning application - think the sub-station will have to remain.

Further to the above . . .


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Originally Posted by Adrian_Swall; 5th September 2012, Planning Apps Thread
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NCC Planning Application submitted...http://publicaccess.newcastle.gov.uk...=M9TF6XBS09700

This may open up some land for further development?

Wentworth Court in the West End is the huge replacement for this emergency accommodation facilty.

NOW (Today, 30th October 2012) . . .


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This as "Granted" on NCC Planning Portal 30/10/12

2012/1144/01/NOD

Notification of Demolition: Demolition of 3 x 5 storeys block of residential flats and grassing over of site

1 - 60 Hill Court Pitt Street Newcastle upon Tyne

http://publicaccess.newcastle.gov.uk...=M9TF6XBS09700


Start Date 05/11/12 with completion scheduled for 22/02/13

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Wellington House - Wellington Street

More student accomodation planned.

Reference 2012/1613/01/DET
Alternative Reference PP-02332292
Application Received Fri 30 Nov 2012
Address Wellington House Wellington Street Newcastle upon Tyne NE4 5TA
Proposal Demolition of existing building and erection of 4/6 storey building accommodating 10 apartments (59 beds) and associated hard landscaping, cycle parking, laundry and refuse storage
Status Pending Consideration
https://publicaccessapplications.new...=M79GKDBSAP000

Description
The proposals relate to the former Henry Hirst (Provision) Ltd, 18 Pitt Street, Newcastle Upon Tyne, NE4 5SU. Generally, the site consists of two buildings – one single storey warehouse and a vacant two storey warehouse/meat processing block – and several car parking and yard areas.
The site is currently used as a cash and carry.

Planning History This application is the third made by the applicant in respect of the site. The previous application, 2012/0982/01/DET, was withdrawn in November 2012 and was for the “Erection of 5 storey building comprising extension to existing cash and carry at Wellington House (Class B8) and ancillary accommodation to upper floors and ground floor, student accommodation at first to fourth floors (4 x 7 beds and 2 x 8 beds) HMO (Sui Generis)” The previous application was a re-submission of a rejected scheme – 2012/0317/01/DET – for the “Erection of 5 storey building comprising of extension to existing cash and carry at Wellington House (B8) and ancillary accommodation to upper floors at ground floor, student accommodation at first to third floors (Sui Generis) and 4 bed duplex apartment at third and forth floors (C3)” Further back, and submitted by a different applicant, was an application for the change of use of use to office units of the warehouse only. This was approved in May 2008, however, it is unclear whether this was ever implemented
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Old January 9th, 2013, 07:29 PM   #14
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18 Pitt Street Newcastle upon Tyne - Demolition of existing building and erection of 4/6 storey building - Planning Application

This on NCC Planning Portal today for first time

2013/0018/01/DET

Demolition of existing building and erection of 4/6 storey building accommodating 10 apartments (59 beds) and associated hard landscaping, cycle parking, laundry and refuse storage

18 Pitt Street Newcastle upon Tyne NE4 5SU

http://publicaccess.newcastle.gov.uk...=MEB5T3BSAP000


This text from one of the title blocks of a drawing within planning documentation:-

STUDENT/ RESIDENTIAL
ACCOMMODATION &
EXTENSION TO CASH & CARRY,
PITT STREET/
WELLINGTON STREET,
NEWCASTLE ON TYNE,
NE4 5TA.
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This on NCC Planning Portal today for first time

2013/0018/01/DET

Demolition of existing building and erection of 4/6 storey building accommodating 10 apartments (59 beds) and associated hard landscaping, cycle parking, laundry and refuse storage

18 Pitt Street Newcastle upon Tyne NE4 5SU

http://publicaccess.newcastle.gov.uk...=MEB5T3BSAP000


This text from one of the title blocks of a drawing within planning documentation:-

STUDENT/ RESIDENTIAL
ACCOMMODATION &
EXTENSION TO CASH & CARRY,
PITT STREET/
WELLINGTON STREET,
NEWCASTLE ON TYNE,
NE4 5TA.
This is the PA for the building part of the development - https://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=166

Not sure that this sits in the Science City thread as its a little out of the boundary of that development - better placed under Student Accomodation?
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Old January 9th, 2013, 08:17 PM   #16
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This is the PA for the building part of the development - https://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=166

Not sure that this sits in the Science City thread as its a little out of the boundary of that development - better placed under Student Accomodation?

Yes, good spot.

It is adjacent to and in between 'Science City' and 'Downing', as your photo (Steve) of June 2012 shows . . .




However, as it is an intrinsic part of the general area of the Science City development, it has been covered on this thread . . .

https://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=261

As it is (also) Student Accommodation, I'll put copies over there.
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Pitt Street houses - query on pipe throgh window 04/03/13

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Away from the Crucible Terrace discussion briefly.........does anyone know what exactly they may be doing here? I've seen similar where the insides of the building are being dried out after plastering etc. but aren't these all empty now and due for demolition?

**Edit - Sorry, should have said, it's the flats on Pit Street, next to Downing development**

Only a suggestion

May be part of an asbestos removal process

You can see that inside area of window is "sheeted" and the pipe is through that sheet and perimeter is sealed

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Pitt Street, Newcastle - demolition now in progress, 07/03/13

Thompsons of Prudhoe are now on site "soft stripping" the 5 storey blocks of Pitt St shown below in this Steve Ellwood picture from earlier post this forum



These photographs by myself 07/03/13 approx 1200 - 1215 showing state of progress at that time (hosted on Photobucket)




















Also posted into Science City site due its proximity to that development

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Demolition of Pitt Street flats:

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flats demo march 12 b by the pointless parasite, on Flickr

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flats demo march 12 a by the pointless parasite, on Flickr

Latest photo of the big hole:

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coalmine march 12 by the pointless parasite, on Flickr

Can't believe there are actually people at work who are unaware that this is happening.
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18 Pitt Street Newcastle - Demolition of existing building and erection of 4/6 storey building

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This on NCC Planning Portal today for first time

2013/0018/01/DET

Demolition of existing building and erection of 4/6 storey building accommodating 10 apartments (59 beds) and associated hard landscaping, cycle parking, laundry and refuse storage

18 Pitt Street Newcastle upon Tyne NE4 5SU

http://publicaccess.newcastle.gov.uk...=MEB5T3BSAP000


This text from one of the title blocks of a drawing within planning documentation:-

STUDENT/ RESIDENTIAL
ACCOMMODATION &
EXTENSION TO CASH & CARRY,
PITT STREET/
WELLINGTON STREET,
NEWCASTLE ON TYNE,
NE4 5TA.
On NCC Planning Portal 22/03/13 as:-

2013/0018/01/DET

Demolition of existing building and erection of 4/5 storey building accommodating 9 apartments (56 beds) and associated hard landscaping, cycle parking, laundry and refuse storage as amended by plans received 13 February and 11 March 2013 and supplemented by details received 17 and 29 January 2013

18 Pitt Street Newcastle upon Tyne NE4 5SU


http://publicaccess.newcastle.gov.uk...=MEB5T3BSAP000

"Application Withdrawn"

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