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Old June 19th, 2019, 12:26 AM   #801
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It is going well, but I feel tempted to suggest sending Line 4A around Highway 70 and into Line 4 at Tobalaba to create an orbital route and reduce pressure on the central sections. Paris is doing something similar with the Grand Paris Express.
I think that many users from the Chilean forum have proposed something like that. It's not clear if Metro would build that extension sometime in a near future, but in the meantime there's a proposal for extending Line 4A to the eastern (along Highway 70 [Américo Vespucio avenue]) from La Cisterna station (existing transfer with Line 2) to Lo Espejo (one of the only 3 communes of Santiago that doesn't have a Metro line inside their limits; the others being Huechuraba and Lo Barnechea) and making a transfer with "Metrotren Melipilla" (a new suburban rail service that will begin construction the next year), but many claim that this extension could extend even further and reach Del Sol station (transfer with Line 5 in Maipú).

The proposed extension of Line 4A is marked in turquoise on this map:



Lo Barnechea (other of the communes that doesn't have Metro) are planning to carry studies along with the municipalities of Las Condes and Vitacura to extend Line 7 (that will open in 2026) to La Dehesa, a wealthy neighbourhood of Lo Barnechea.

The proposed extension of Line 7 is marked in white on this map:

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Old October 19th, 2019, 09:44 AM   #802
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Hello,

Looking in the news I'm seeing there are massive disturbs happening in Santiago after a fare increase and the metro will remain closed for this weekend. Many stations (19, AFAIK) were destroyed, and some also were burned.
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Old October 20th, 2019, 02:37 AM   #803
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Looking in the news I'm seeing there are massive disturbs happening in Santiago after a fare increase and the metro will remain closed for this weekend. Many stations (19, AFAIK) were destroyed, and some also were burned.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-19/chile-government-declares-state-of-emergency-amid-subway-riots

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Pinera’s announcement came after the worst protests in decades hit Santiago -- more than 70 subway stations were damaged, buses were set on fire and stores were looted. The protests, essentially against income inequality, prompted the government to announce a state of emergency in the capital, resulting in soldiers being deployed on the streets. The army has set a curfew in the city from 10 p.m.
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Chile students' mass fare-dodging expands into city-wide protest

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The campaign erupted when secondary school students began to jump barriers in groups following a fare rise on 6 October, which put Santiago’s metro among the most expensive in Latin America at 830 pesos ($1.17) during the rush hour. Bus prices also climbed as part of the changes.
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Economic Inequality in Chile a Major Burden for the Poor

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According to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), economic inequality in Chile is a major problem. Its Gini coefficient value stands at a record 0.50, one of the highest inequality coefficients in the world. Gini coefficients are used to measure the wealth distribution across many countries. It is a numerical value ranging from a minimum of zero (perfectly equal) to a maximum of one (perfectly unequal).
Consequently, the incomes of the richest 10 percent are around 26 times higher than the incomes of the poorest 10 percent of the population. Despite having a burgeoning economy, the existing economic inequality in Chile may impede social and economic progress in the long run. The foundation of the problem stems from an ineffective and inequitable taxation system, which often creates a massive tax burden on the poor.
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Additionally, Chile has also had to juggle the issue of corruption at the hands of the rich and powerful oligarchs in the country. These powerful entities often evade tax. Similarly, the Ministry of Public Services PPP unit has also been caught up in various corruption scandals since 2002 due to the lack of resources and misallocation of funds.

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Old October 20th, 2019, 09:37 AM   #804
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Trains are highly damaged too! Can't believe what happened:

https://www.instagram.com/p/B30-ujQn...ns_share_sheet

https://www.instagram.com/p/B30Jxb-l..._web_copy_link

I don't think that they will resume service that fast...
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Old October 20th, 2019, 05:23 PM   #805
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Instead of rising fares for people who use an ecological transport mode the governments should/must increase instead the taxes on destructive fossil fuels.
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Old October 21st, 2019, 03:19 AM   #806
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11 stations totally burned, another 11 partilly burned, 41 with multiples damages and 17 with minor damages. 6 trains damaged, and 3 burned.Also lines 4, 4A and 5 suffered damages on electrical and signaling systems. These lines will remain closed for the coming months. Financial losses are estimated in 300 million USD.

Only line 1 will operate on this Monday with restricted services.

https://www.biobiochile.cl/noticias/...rotestas.shtml
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Instead of rising fares for people who use an ecological transport mode the governments should/must increase instead the taxes on destructive fossil fuels.
I would rather opt for expanding of payed-parking areas and higher parking fees instead of tax on fuel. Remember, high price on gasoline brings higher prices on food as well. Private transport should be more expensive, but you can reach it through parking fees and not gas tax.
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Old October 21st, 2019, 06:54 PM   #808
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I think that those who use violence are never be right.
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Old October 21st, 2019, 08:29 PM   #809
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More 3 stations on line 1 closed (which is operating only between Pajaritos and Los Dominicos) after starting operations (Tobalaba, Universidad Católica and Salvador). Operations with buses are being reinforced.

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any damage to brand-new lines 3 and 6?
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Old October 23rd, 2019, 06:50 AM   #811
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some photos of the destruction...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-continue.html


Elisa Correa station (L4)

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entrance to metro station






Plaza de Maipu station (L5)


https://www.biobiochile.cl/noticias/...protesta.shtml

more photos here: https://www.infobae.com/america/foto...merica-latina/
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Old October 23rd, 2019, 10:32 AM   #812
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How stupid. They're destroying their own world class mass transit.
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Old October 23rd, 2019, 02:23 PM   #813
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Lines 1, 3 and 6 are opened today, however on lines 3 and 6, most intermediate stations remain closed.



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Old October 23rd, 2019, 03:14 PM   #814
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I know the protestors are right to raise concerns about climate change and social inequality… but not like this.
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Old October 23rd, 2019, 10:05 PM   #815
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This is an insane act that's highly destructive to the very things that the protesters support.

Hopefully this doesn't put Chile's metro expansion plans in jeopardy.
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Old October 23rd, 2019, 11:18 PM   #816
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I know many cities in the world that would love to have such a beautiful Métro system like the one they have in Santiago.I understand protestors demands but there are many other ways to get what one wants without destroying people's property....Who will pay for all this...The taxpayers.
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Old October 25th, 2019, 03:42 PM   #817
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Starting today, lines 2 and 5 are operating. However only the stations listed on these tweets are open.




Lines 4 and 4A remain closed.
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How stupid. They're destroying their own world class mass transit.
Exactly. Meanwhile, the wealthy live on driving their own cars. These protesters are throwing a tantrum like violent 5 year olds.
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It's been really sad to see how some trains already burned.
Fortunately enough, lines 3 and 6 only had 'minor' damage on some of their entrances, like some shattered escalator glass panels and a sh*t load of graffiti on walls, but thankfully no damage on electrification systems or anything serious.

This is Line 2, which had some serious damage on its electrification system (third rail), there might have been some sort of metallic debris left on the tracks that caused an electric arc:

1:08 onwards

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Updating the thread

Lines 4 and 4A are reopened.

This is the current situation.



Source: https://twitter.com/metrodesantiago/...81269428817920
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