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Old September 28th, 2017, 08:05 PM   #41
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Not finding this thread, I started a new thread on this news. I guess it should go in here.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-bo...-idUSKCN1C0324
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Leehamnews mentioned this in an article about AAs plans for their A350 order in relation to the replacement of their 767s.

https://leehamnews.com/2017/09/28/am...in-six-months/

"Boeing is pitching a re-order of the 787-8 and the New Midrange Aircraft (NMA), which Kerr says that as presented is of great interest. The NMA is a 220-270 passenger, twin-aisle aircraft with a range of 4,500-5,000nm in the most recent concept Boeing has been showing the industry."
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Old October 16th, 2017, 08:05 AM   #43
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We can add Qantas to the list of interested airlines.


Qantas eyes Boeing 737 MAX, Boeing 797 for domestic fleet

https://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-eyes...domestic-fleet


But they will not be one of the 1st airlines to place an airline when it's launched.
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Old October 22nd, 2017, 10:09 PM   #44
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As much as everyone seems to want this jet to be a new tech 757, what Boeing is looking at very much seems to be a new tech 767. Maybe this is what the airlines really want? Boeing wouldn't be going this direction unless the airlines were pushing them that way.
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Boeing's '797' takes a big step toward becoming reality
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The aerospace giant has named one of its top engineers to a leadership team responsible for the formation of what is likely to become its first all-new airliner since the 787 Dreamliner.

Boeing has moved company veteran and 777X chief project engineer Terry Beezhold to the new '797' team, the company confirmed. Boeing has not yet assigned roles for members of the team.
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So, let's say the 797 becomes reality. Then after some decades Boeing decides it needs another new model. Do they call this next one the 807 or the 808?
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So, let's say the 797 becomes reality. Then after some decades Boeing decides it needs another new model. Do they call this next one the 807 or the 808?
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Old November 21st, 2017, 04:32 PM   #49
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Boeing won't exist by then.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-mulls-797-jet
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Old February 16th, 2018, 05:38 AM   #51
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I think another airline that may be seriously interested in the 797 "middle of market" plane is the TUI Group of Germany. If Boeing can build a version with a range up to 5,300 nautical miles, that makes it really attractive to the TUI Group for transatlantic flights from the UK and central Europe to the US East Coast, including Florida.
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I think another airline that may be seriously interested in the 797 "middle of market" plane is the TUI Group of Germany. If Boeing can build a version with a range up to 5,300 nautical miles, that makes it really attractive to the TUI Group for transatlantic flights from the UK and central Europe to the US East Coast, including Florida.
Yes, it will happens. If they orders 797 aircraft. It's up to airlines who will decide to orders it. It's their choice.
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Old February 23rd, 2018, 01:32 PM   #53
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thank you for thread boeing is the best airplane
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Old February 26th, 2018, 01:56 PM   #54
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It looks more like a 767 replacement with the economics of 757
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Old March 3rd, 2018, 02:22 PM   #55
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the fuselage would be oval
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Old March 4th, 2018, 12:30 AM   #56
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Hmmm... It's interesting to note that the airlines that find it suitable, are not A330 airlines, but 767 ones.

I expect the 797 will take some concepts brought in from the 787 and 777X. It'll probably be a variable 6 or 7 abreast aircraft (the 787 was a variable 8 or 9 abreast).

However, I feel that Asian airlines, just like how they shun the 757 and 767 because the seating capacities were simply too low, and ranges too limited, will continue to opt for A330neo. LCCs might take this as a step-up, but there are too few LCCs in Asia who prefer Airbus.
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Rumours doing the rounds again that Boeing might have to design 2 a/c at the same time like they did with the 757 and 767 back in the day. The feedback on the current plan, a twin aisle 767 replacement to come in under/near the 787-8 is seemingly quite underwhelming at present and a good launch customer is hard to come by.

And the only possible 757 replacement is really a 737 replacement which actually did the rounds before the MAX as the New Small Airplane but which would ruin the cashflow from the 737 MAX as many customers would defer for an NSA if it realistically existed. Boeing will go for an NSA after 2023 or so and get serious around 2025 but they sure don't want to go there now or soon. Yet they have to design something in the next few years as they have a lot of engineers who are over 50, know well what they are doing, and need to be given something to do to take them to 65 and retirement.

If Boeing do end up with the non military bits of Embraer I can see that lot designing the NSA in the end but they have no experience of Heavies down in Brazil, not that Boeing looks like needing another one before 2030 but they need to have something in mind to deal with the Comac/Sukhoi challenge in that space out towards 2030.
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Rumours doing the rounds again that Boeing might have to design 2 a/c at the same time like they did with the 757 and 767 back in the day. The feedback on the current plan, a twin aisle 767 replacement to come in under/near the 787-8 is seemingly quite underwhelming at present and a good launch customer is hard to come by.

And the only possible 757 replacement is really a 737 replacement which actually did the rounds before the MAX as the New Small Airplane but which would ruin the cashflow from the 737 MAX as many customers would defer for an NSA if it realistically existed. Boeing will go for an NSA after 2023 or so and get serious around 2025 but they sure don't want to go there now or soon. Yet they have to design something in the next few years as they have a lot of engineers who are over 50, know well what they are doing, and need to be given something to do to take them to 65 and retirement.

If Boeing do end up with the non military bits of Embraer I can see that lot designing the NSA in the end but they have no experience of Heavies down in Brazil, not that Boeing looks like needing another one before 2030 but they need to have something in mind to deal with the Comac/Sukhoi challenge in that space out towards 2030.
Alot of rumors, the latest its 200-270 pax aircraft, that puts it at the top of the present A321NEO. If airlines are indeed moving to larger NBs such as the A321, and 737-10, then Boeing may be hoping the 797 to grab a bit more of the NB market. One aircraft family that can handle domestic and international (TATL) flying.
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Old March 6th, 2018, 11:50 PM   #59
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I think the new 797 will be more revolutionary then we can think. Right now B737 max is the most expensive in its category. Of course Boeing like Apple can have the most expensive products becouse of brand but in my opinion they need to do much more to survive on the market nowadays.
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Jon Ostrower gives us a sneak peak of the 797


This is Boeing’s NMA

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https://jonostrower.com/2018/03/the-...nma-rendering/

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Exclusive: The Boeing 797 of 2025 will evolve out of this 2018 conceptual rendering of the New Middle-Market Airplane.

This is Boeing’s New Middle-Market Airplane.

Or at least this is what its concept looks like in 2018.

The artistic conception, revealed below, is the first complete look at Boeing’s NMA.

The yet-to-be-launched NMA is slated to arrive in 2025. First with the base model, the NMA-6X (225 passengers at 5,000nm) and the NMA-7X (265 passengers at 4,500nm) two years later, according to two people familiar with Boeing’s planning today.

The apparent small twin-aisle NMA-6X is pictured in the artist conception.


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