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Old June 9th, 2004, 04:56 PM   #1
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Euro 2004 Stadiums - Aerial Views

Luz - Lisboa, Capacity - 65000



Alvalade XXI - Lisboa, Capacity - 52000



Dragão - Porto, Capacity - 52000



Municipal de Aveiro, Aveiro - Capacity - 30000





Municipal de Coimbra, Coimbra - Capacity - 30000



Algarve - Capacity - 30000



Municipal de Braga, Braga - Capacity - 30000







Dr. Magalhães Pessoa - Leiria, Capacity - 30000



D. Afonso Henriques - Guimarães, Capacity - 30000





Bessa XII - Porto, Capacity - 30000 (Pics under construction)






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Old June 10th, 2004, 03:41 AM   #2
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hi,there!i'm sorry for my english.you have great football grounds!I fall in love with them all.Now i'm waiting from our national team (greece) to have a good run of results,and i hope your team portugal to win the turnament.
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Old June 10th, 2004, 04:06 AM   #3
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Congratulations Portugal. Those stadiums are all most amazing! I think in in 4 years when the Euro 2008 takes place in Austria and Switzerland the stadiums won't be as good as yours.
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Old June 10th, 2004, 07:32 PM   #5
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Yea no way Austria Switzerland can compare to these. All there stadiums at most fit only 40,000 people, and many of them are in the 20,000 range but Portugals stadiums are really nice looking with great architecture.
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Old June 11th, 2004, 09:47 PM   #6
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Old June 11th, 2004, 10:22 PM   #7
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All there stadiums at most fit only 40,000 people, and many of them are in the 20,000 range but Portugals stadiums are really nice looking with great architecture.
???

Do you know what are you talking about, I think not really.
Firstly the UEFA claims for an EURO stadium a minimum capicity of 30`000
peoples. So for the EURO2008 there will be 8 stadiums (4 in Austria and 4 in Switzerland), 6 of them with a capacity of 30`000, the Ernst Happel stadium in Vienna 50`000 (final game) and the St. Jakob Park in Basel 42`000 (start game).


A short calculation shows that for the EURO2004 in Portugal will be a total capacity for the 31 games of about 1300000.
For the EURO2008 in Austria/Switzerland there will a capacity for the 31 games of about 1150000.
Therefore if you compare the capacities, there are no dimensions between the both hosts.

EURO2008 (A/CH)
Basel 42000 6 252000
Bern 30000 3 90000
Zürich 30000 3 90000
Genf 30000 3 90000
Innsbruck 30000 3 90000
Klagenfurt 30000 3 90000
Wien 50000 7 350000
Salzburg 30000 3 90000
31 1142000

EURO2004 (P)
Lissabon 1 65000 5 325000
Lissabon 2 50000 5 250000
Porto 1 50000 5 250000
Porto 2 30000 3 90000
Guimares 30000 2 60000
Braga 30000 2 60000
Faro 30000 3 90000
Leiria 30000 2 60000
Coimbra 30000 2 60000
Aveiro 30000 2 60000
31 1305000


And architecture is a matter of taste...

For example the St. Jakob Park of Basel:



After the expansion:


http://www.uefa.com/uefa/euro2008/in...sId=90456.html
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Old June 12th, 2004, 03:39 AM   #8
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Portugal have produced some really fantastic stadiums, it's just a shame that so many had to be built from new always better when a club can redevelop their existing ground imo.

As for 2008 Switzerland and Austria have alot of work to do if they are even going to compete with the same sort of the standard that has been scene in Portugal, and that first picture of the redeveloped St. Jakob Park doesn't fill me with confidence that they do that.

Do you have any more plans for the stadiums that will be used?
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Old June 12th, 2004, 09:27 AM   #9
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I think the Euro2008 has one advantage: each stadium is used at least 3 times (in Portugal only 2 times). This is because Portugal is using 10 stadiums instead of the recommended 8. The Euro2004 is concentrated on 2 towns (18 matches of 31).
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Old June 12th, 2004, 10:26 AM   #10
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I think that the stadium of aveiro look a lot like Stade de France in Paris (which is older). Both look great anyway !









and now aveiro and what they say about it on the Euro 2004 site...my first impression was right in fact !




By Rui Matos Pereira

Aveiro Municipal stadium is one of the three stadiums built for UEFA EURO 2004™ to be designed by leading Portuguese architect Tomás Taveira, whose designs are often characterised by colourful façades and seats.

Bright patterns
The bright patterns and stadium structure lend an air of lightness and have invited comparisons with the Stade de France in Saint-Denis, although arguably the Aveiro's design is a touch bolder. "It is one of those stadiums that can be considered a work of art, when reducing the scale from a large stadium to a smaller one," EURO 2004™ tournament director António Laranjo told euro2004.com. "It is a 30,000 all-seater which gives everything you'd expect from a high-quality 50,000 all-seater venue."

go to site Euro 2004
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Old June 12th, 2004, 10:31 AM   #11
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...and i don't know what do they mean exactly by saying that the design of the Aveiro stadium is "bolder" that the stade de france...both are very slick and nice designs...I don't see any one "arguably" nicer than the other one here ! maybe more close photos of the Aveiro may help me...
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Portugal have produced some really fantastic stadiums, it's just a shame that so many had to be built from new always better when a club can redevelop their existing ground imo.

As for 2008 Switzerland and Austria have alot of work to do if they are even going to compete with the same sort of the standard that has been scene in Portugal, and that first picture of the redeveloped St. Jakob Park doesn't fill me with confidence that they do that.

Do you have any more plans for the stadiums that will be used?
this is the stadium in innsbruck (west of austria). it has now about 15.000 seats, it will become a second rank/bleachers (don't know the english term).





this is the happel stadion (praterstadion) in vienna. it was built 1930 and is one of the old european stadiums with a lot tradition. here england lost it's first game on the continent. it was the home of the austrian "wonder team" in the 30's, in those days more than 80.000 people could watch a game. during the second world war it was a prison. it was renovated in the 80's and for the euro it will get a bit more seats on the runway. now it has 50.000 seats.
the stadium will get an underground station for the euro 2008.









i don't have pics for salzburg and the other one.
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Old June 12th, 2004, 04:11 PM   #13
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...and i don't know what do they mean exactly by saying that the design of the Aveiro stadium is "bolder" that the stade de france
Probably because of the colours

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Probably because of the colours

I'm thinking that it could be proclaimed as the world’s gayest stadium.
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Portugal have produced some really fantastic stadiums, it's just a shame that so many had to be built from new always better when a club can redevelop their existing ground imo.
Thats bullshit!

A new stadium is almost always better than redevelopment. Because in a redevelopment there will be some old fashion details. In a new stadium you can build everything as you want to, and everything can be perfect.

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GREECE WINS 2-1 YEA !!!!!!!!!!
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Old June 13th, 2004, 12:46 AM   #17
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Of course Portugal's stadiums are much nicer than Austria's/Switzerland's. You gotta remember that pretty much all of them were built from scratch and not every country is able to afford or willing to do that.

Austria simply doesn't need 5 brand spanking new 40,000 seat venues.
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Thats bullshit!

A new stadium is almost always better than redevelopment. Because in a redevelopment there will be some old fashion details. In a new stadium you can build everything as you want to, and everything can be perfect.
Incorporating old with new is the best way to build a stadium, when you move to a new stadium you leave all the history and tradition of the club behind, the atmosphere virtually always drops, the location of the new stadium is often way out of town and the stadium themselves often look like they are built out of Lego.

You ask any fans and 90% of them would prefer to stay at their ground and have it redeveloped rather than move to a completely new ground.

Just look at the Westfalenstadion in Dortmund, proberly the finest footballing venue in the world, modern mixed with old, hostile, excellent atmosphere and tradition.
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wow

Portugal choked big time

2-1 to Greece?
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They did not choke Greece beat them by outplaying them. It was no mistake, people are gonna learn to respect us. They did not take us seriously after we finished ahead of Spain in the qualifying round maybe they will now!
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