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Old July 29th, 2018, 04:26 PM   #1
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Frequencias ou maior capacidade?

Os amaricanos dizem que o passageiro prefere mais frequências do que poucos voos diários mas maiores aviões. Sim se me perguntarem se eu prefiro ir ao Porto e escolher a hora mais bonita eu digo que sim, mas é mesmo necessário? Ter voos de meia em meia hora é mesmo imprescindível? Não posso apanhar o próximo voo daqui a duas horas? Eu acredito que estão a oferecer algo que não é de modo algum imprescindível e a isto chama-se consumismo desmesurável. Ter menos frequências com aviões maiores tem benefícios ou não?
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Depende se os aviões maiores gastam menos por passageiro ou não. Claro que prefiro ter escolha, mas por outro lado se menos escolha implicar preços mais baixos...
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Tens um exemplo ali na Portela com as carreiras de autocarros pros HUB's do costume 4/5 (ou mais) vezes ao dia em vez de aviões grandes com frequencias menores ... e depois os outros destinos com 1/2 frequencias diarias apenas.


Nada comparavel á ponte aerea heathrow-CDG com A380 que previam aqui á anos atras ...
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Old July 30th, 2018, 12:25 AM   #4
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Nada comparavel á ponte aerea heathrow-CDG com A380 que previam aqui á anos atras ...
O A380 está optimizado para voos longos, mas o A300 foi desenvolvido para voos regionais principalmente na Europa e o A300 eram muito utilizados bem como o L1011 mas actualmente quantas rotas dentro da Europa são wide-body?
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O A380 está optimizado para voos longos, mas o A300 foi desenvolvido para voos regionais principalmente na Europa e o A300 eram muito utilizados bem como o L1011 mas actualmente quantas rotas dentro da Europa são wide-body?
LHR-MAD... as vezes
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Old July 30th, 2018, 10:21 AM   #6
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LIS-LHR tambem é em A330 amiude.
LIS-VIE é todos os dias.
OPO-NCE (?) agora no verao tambem é sempre em A330 (Aigle Azur).
A LH tambem traz as vezes A330 quer para Lisboa quer para o Porto (mais para o 1o).
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Old July 31st, 2018, 01:24 AM   #7
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O A380 está optimizado para voos longos, mas o A300 foi desenvolvido para voos regionais principalmente na Europa e o A300 eram muito utilizados bem como o L1011 mas actualmente quantas rotas dentro da Europa são wide-body?

https://www.skyscanner.net/news/air-...ow-paris-route
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Air France launches A380 flights on Heathrow to Paris route

Air France has announced that the Airbus A380, the world’s largest airliner, will operate on the London-Heathrow airport to Paris-Charles de Gaulle route for the very first time from Saturday, 12th June 2010 until Monday, 30th August 2010.
80£ na altura ...

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Q2 2018 network update - all data supplied by OAG


Air France (AF)
Paris (CDG) – Abidjan (ABJ)
Paris (CDG) – Johannesburg (JNB)
Paris (CDG) – Los Angeles (LAX)
Paris (CDG) – Mexico City (MEX)
Paris (CDG) – New York (JFK)
Paris (CDG) – San Francisco (SFO)
Paris (CDG) – Shanghai (PVG)
Paris (CDG) - Washington Dulles (IAD)

Asiana Airlines (OZ)
Seoul (ICN) – Bangkok (BKK)
Seoul (ICN) – Frankfurt (FRA)
Seoul (ICN) – Hong Kong (HKG)
Seoul (ICN) – Los Angeles (LAX)
Seoul (ICN) – New York (JFK)
Seoul (ICN) – Sydney Kingsford Smith (SYD)
Seoul (ICN) – Tokyo Narita (NRT)

British Airways (BA)
London (LHR) – Boston (BOS)
London (LHR) – Chicago (ORD)
London (LHR) – Hong Kong (HKG)
London (LHR) – Johannesburg (JNB)
London (LHR) – Los Angeles (LAX)
London (LHR) – Miami (MIA)
London (LHR) – San Francisco (SFO)
London (LHR) – Singapore (SIN)
London (LHR) – Vancouver (YVR)

China Southern Airlines (CZ)
Guangzhou (CAN) – Beijing (PEK)
Guangzhou (CAN) – Los Angeles (LAX)

Emirates (EK)
Bangkok (BKK) – Hong Kong (HKG)
Bangkok (BKK) – Sydney (SYD)
Christchurch (CHC) – Sydney (SYD)
Dubai (DXB) – Amsterdam (AMS)
Dubai (DXB) – Athens (ATH)
Dubai (DXB) – Auckland (AKL)
Dubai (DXB) – Bangkok (BKK)
Dubai (DXB) – Barcelona (BCN)
Dubai (DXB) – Beijing (PEK)
Dubai (DXB) – Birmingham (BHX)
Dubai (DXB) – Boston (BOS) - one-time
Dubai (DXB) – Brisbane (BNE)
Dubai (DXB) – Brussels (BRU) - one-time
Dubai (DXB) – Casablanca (CMN)
Dubai (DXB) – Copenhagen (CPH)
Dubai (DXB) – Duesseldorf (DUS)
Dubai (DXB) – Frankfurt (FRA)
Dubai (DXB) – Guangzhou (CAN)
Dubai (DXB) – Hong Kong (HKG)
Dubai (DXB) – Houston (IAH)
Dubai (DXB) – Jeddah (JED)
Dubai (DXB) – Johannesburg (JNB)
Dubai (DXB) – Kuala Lumpur (KUL)
Dubai (DXB) – Kuwait (KWI)
Dubai (DXB) – London Gatwick (LGW)
Dubai (DXB) – London Heathrow (LHR)
Dubai (DXB) – Los Angeles (LAX)
Dubai (DXB) – Madrid (MAD)
Dubai (DXB) – Manchester (MAN)
Dubai (DXB) – Mauritius (MRU)
Dubai (DXB) – Melbourne (MEL)
Dubai (DXB) – Milan (MXP)
Dubai (DXB) – Moscow (DME)
Dubai (DXB) – Mumbai (BOM)
Dubai (DXB) – Munich (MUC)
Dubai (DXB) – New York (JFK)
Dubai (DXB) – Nice (NCE)
Dubai (DXB) – Paris (CDG)
Dubai (DXB) – Perth (PER)
Dubai (DXB) – Prague (PRG)
Dubai (DXB) – Rome (FCO)
Dubai (DXB) – San Francisco (SFO)
Dubai (DXB) – Sao Paulo (GRU)
Dubai (DXB) – Seoul (ICN)
Dubai (DXB) – Shanghai (PVG)
Dubai (DXB) – Singapore (SIN)
Dubai (DXB) – Sydney (SYD)
Dubai (DXB) – Taipei (TPE)
Dubai (DXB) – Tokyo (NRT)
Dubai (DXB) – Toronto (YYZ)
Dubai (DXB) – Vienna (VIE)
Dubai (DXB) – Washington (IAD)
Dubai (DXB) – Zurich (ZRH)
Melbourne Airport (MEL) – Singapore (SIN)
Milan (MXP) – New York (JFK)

Etihad Airways (EY)
Abu Dhabi (AUH) – London (LHR)
Abu Dhabi (AUH) – New York (JFK)
Abu Dhabi (AUH) – Paris (CDG)
Abu Dhabi (AUH) – Sydney (SYD)

Korean Air (KE)
Seoul (ICN) – Bangkok Suvarnabhumi (BKK)
Seoul (ICN) – Hong Kong (HKG)
Seoul (ICN) – London (LHR)
Seoul (ICN) – Los Angeles (LAX)
Seoul (ICN) – New York (JFK)
Seoul (ICN) – Paris (CDG)

Lufthansa (LH)
Frankfurt (FRA) – Delhi (DEL)
Frankfurt (FRA) – Houston (IAH)
Frankfurt (FRA) – Los Angeles (LAX)
Frankfurt (FRA) – Miami (MIA)
Frankfurt (FRA) – New York (JFK)
Frankfurt (FRA) – San Francisco (SFO)
Frankfurt (FRA) – Shanghai (PVG)
Frankfurt (FRA) – Singapore (SIN)
Munich (MUC) - Beijing (PEK)
Munich (MUC) - Hong Kong (HKG)
Munich (MUC) - Los Angeles (LAX)

Malaysia Airlines (MH)
Kuala Lumpur (KUL) – Hong Kong (HKG)
Kuala Lumpur (KUL) – Seoul (ICN)
Kuala Lumpur (KUL) – Sydney (SYD)
Kuala Lumpur (KUL) – Tokyo (NRT)

Qantas (QF)
Dubai (DXB) – London (LHR)
London (LHR) - Singapore (SIN)
Melbourne (MEL) – Dubai (DXB)
Melbourne (MEL) – Los Angeles (LAX)
Melbourne (MEL) – Singapore (SIN)
Sydney (SYD) – Dallas (DFW)
Sydney (SYD) – Hong Kong (HKG)
Sydney (SYD) – Los Angeles (LAX)
Sydney (SYD) - Singapore (SIN)

Qatar Airways (QR)
Doha (DOH) – Bangkok (BKK)
Doha (DOH) – Guangzhou (CAN)
Doha (DOH) – London (LHR)
Doha (DOH) – Melbourne (MEL)
Doha (DOH) – Paris (CDG)
Doha (DOH) – Perth (PER)
Doha (DOH) – Sydney (SYD)

Singapore Airlines (SQ)
Frankfurt (FRA) - New York (JFK)
Singapore (SIN) – Beijing (PEK)
Singapore (SIN) – Delhi (DEL)
Singapore (SIN) – Frankfurt (FRA)
Singapore (SIN) – Hong Kong (HKG)
Singapore (SIN) – London (LHR)
Singapore (SIN) – Melbourne (MEL)
Singapore (SIN) – Mumbai (BOM)
Singapore (SIN) – Paris (CDG)
Singapore (SIN) – Shanghai (PVG)
Singapore (SIN) – Sydney (SYD)
Singapore (SIN) – Zurich (ZRH)

Thai Airways International (TG)
Bangkok (BKK) – Frankfurt (FRA)
Bangkok (BKK) – London (LHR)
Bangkok (BKK) – Osaka (KIX)
Bangkok (BKK) – Paris (CDG)
Bangkok (BKK) – Tokyo (NRT)
https://www.routesonline.com/news/29...etwork-update/
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Old July 31st, 2018, 02:12 PM   #8
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A Air France lançou o A380 para LHR para familiarização das tripilaçoes, a Iberia também faz o mesmo com o A350
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A Air France lançou o A380 para LHR para familiarização das tripilaçoes, a Iberia também faz o mesmo com o A350
NA altura era mesmo "venha dar uma volta no concorde ... erm A380".
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Old September 2nd, 2018, 03:28 AM   #10
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Gamado ali da secção internacional no topico sobre aeroportos:

Impacto sobre a area envolvente do CDG e de Schiphol:

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Yeah, yeah. The Germans used to say that too about Germany, and now we've seen what has happened with the never-ending strikes of Lufthansa...

In Western Europe the dominant winds blow from West to East, so that only East-West runways can be used safely or economically most of the time. Paris CDG built precisely 4 East-West parallel runways. This is a far superior design than the crisscrossing runways in all directions at Schiphol, which cannot accommodate as much traffic most of the time. With 4 runways at CDG there is simply more capacity than with 6 runways at Schiphol, due to the way they were built and prevailing winds.

As for building more runways at Schiphol, I remain skeptical. Schiphol is in the middle of the Randstad, with urbanization surrounding it all around, whereas CDG is at the northern end of the Paris urban area. So I doubt it's politically possible to build more runways at Schiphol and to vastly increase its air traffic. People would just not accept it. It's like at Heathrow in this respect.

CDG, thanks to the vision of the planners in the 1970s, has more room for expansion because far less people live around it and are impacted by the flight paths. That's especially true of the two northern doublets.



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