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Old February 20th, 2019, 08:42 AM   #101
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So the childish argument at the begging is, it's a box, which I understand, not many people can claim an architecturally rich vocabulary. Afterwards, turns out there are nice boxes and ugly boxes.

New York cannot sleep in the 30's like time froze in that decade.
Some people just need to understand that time is moving on. So is architecture.
And I say thank you, you majestic, tremendous, cosmic universe for making us diverse and innovate new staff.

A world of 100 same 111w57th buildings sounds so, so dull.
A world of nothing but historic architecture is so, so dull.
I can name way more glass box buildings than buildings similar to 111 West 57. Plus you can do modern architecture well without it being a glass box. Hudson Yards is a perfect example of modern architecture that is interesting and visually appealing. I think I would like this tower more if it weren't for the off center top. For example, I like 432 Park Avenue precisely because it stays uniform the whole way up.
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Old March 4th, 2019, 09:47 AM   #102
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Yep, it's hideous. A few interesting things have been noted regarding potential egos and underlying intentions with this project and I have faith the powers that be will require a measure of civility in design discussions. If they don't I hope New Yorkers rise up and handle it themselves. This thing is disgusting for the beautiful New York skyline.
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Old March 10th, 2019, 08:53 PM   #103
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Reminds me of Xanatos Tower from Gargoyles







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Old March 12th, 2019, 12:24 AM   #104
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huh, good timing bumping this thread. There's some news.

Harry Macklowe is one parcel closer to building his $1B Midtown office tower

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Harry Macklowe’s dream of building one more soaring skyscraper in Midtown picked up a bit of steam this week.

The octogenarian developer on Monday closed on the purchase of a six-story rental building at 5 East 51st Street from Noam Management for $44 million, according to property records. His company Macklowe Properties funded the deal with a roughly $124 million mortgage from Fortress Investment Group.
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Old March 12th, 2019, 10:42 PM   #105
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huh, good timing bumping this thread. There's some news.

Harry Macklowe is one parcel closer to building his $1B Midtown office tower
Only $1 billion? A tower of that size in New York City would cost at least $4 billion.
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Old March 16th, 2019, 10:11 AM   #106
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Only $1 billion? A tower of that size in New York City would cost at least $4 billion.
Such dull design is not worth all that money
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Old March 22nd, 2019, 12:42 AM   #107
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Such dull design is not worth all that money
The top looks pretty interesting. Otherwise what else can be done there other than another type of box to maximize the profits
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Old March 22nd, 2019, 03:14 AM   #108
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Only $1 billion? A tower of that size in New York City would cost at least $4 billion.

Give it to Larry and the Port Authority and they will do it for $14 billion.



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Give it to Larry and the Port Authority and they will do it for $14 billion.
And finish in 2057.
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And finish in 2057.

Not forgetting repeatedly downgrading with a rather delicious touch of value engineering.
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Old April 12th, 2019, 04:27 AM   #111
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demolition approved for 5 e 51st street.

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=01
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I hope that it will be over 500m and over 100 floors.
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Old April 13th, 2019, 05:00 AM   #113
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Can we get a spire or something on one of these flat rooftops PLEASE?!?!
I'm looking at the renders of the future skyline and I will go on a different direction: can we get rid of the spires on the smaller buildings? The BoA tower looks a bit ridiculous now

As to the people complaining about the new supertalls being too dispersed: don't worry, this wave of boxy flattops will become the "fillers" of tomorrow when more supertalls pop up in the next 20-30 years, and megatalls with spires will redefine the skyline.

Think of the mass density of 200m towers that created a sort of plateau in midtown manhattan, the next plateau level will be 300m-400m high
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Old April 14th, 2019, 12:00 AM   #114
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I hope that it will be over 500m and over 100 floors.
That'd be nice, either way it'll be close and seems to have a decent chance of happening.

That being said I hope they really revise the design, it's unique and whatever but kind of a mess. Being near 500m isn't everything, aesthetics matter a lot
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Old April 14th, 2019, 08:33 AM   #115
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Old April 15th, 2019, 04:59 PM   #116
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demolition approved for 12 and 14 East 52nd Street.

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=01

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Old April 16th, 2019, 11:33 AM   #117
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I hope a major glow up. This tower is extremely ugly.
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Old April 20th, 2019, 11:02 AM   #118
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I always wondered why there in the are not many tall office buildings with rounded corners like in many Asian countries. Could that be, because "corner offices" are very much appreciated in the US? Of course for a corner office you need some kind of sharp corner - usually a 90 degree corner. In the US having a corner office means success, while in some other cultures being in the corner has negative annotations.

Just imagine this building with a cylindrical shape or a "squircle" shape (x^2p+y^2p=r^2p with p>2). Those building usually look very pleasing to the eye, if they have a nice facade.

Of course rectangular buildings can be fitted into Manhattans grid easier, but there are solutions for that.
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Old April 20th, 2019, 12:29 PM   #119
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New York needs something beyond special. A game changer that was The Empire State Building in the 1930s and The World Trade Center complex in the 1970s.

No towers built taller since can touch those icons.

One World Trade Center granted is a game changer but only on the inside.

One Vanderbilt opening in the 2020s probably will come the closest so far. It is thankfully not another shiny blue box.
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I hope the architect and developer at least see this thread at some point, because baaaaaarrrrrrrfffffff!
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