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Old July 15th, 2011, 01:24 AM   #1
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MELBOURNE > Carlton, Parkville, Health Precinct etc / Projects & Discussion

Needs it's own dedicated thread as over the next 10 years there will be significant work in this precinct.

Peter Doherty Institute is about to commence.

VCCC is undergoing review with govt. before consortium is appointed.

RMH on going works, masterplan and subsequent works associated with VCCC.

Melbourne Brain Centre Parkville campus was recently completed.

You can also throw in the potential underground train station beneath Grattan / Royal Pde intersection.
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Old July 15th, 2011, 05:49 AM   #2
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Confirmation that BM will build PDI... once Guilfoyles finish their demolition works

http://afr.com/p/business/property/b...y14vB06w5jRIaN
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Old July 15th, 2011, 01:41 PM   #3
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Don't mean to sound rude, but says who?

None of the projects are over 100m, none are particularly significant except for the new peter mac centre but that is years away, and that's not as significant as the new RCH which didn't get it's own thread.

Sorry but think these developments should just come under North end under 100m....
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Old July 15th, 2011, 03:03 PM   #4
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Don't mean to sound rude, but says who?

None of the projects are over 100m, none are particularly significant except for the new peter mac centre but that is years away, and that's not as significant as the new RCH which didn't get it's own thread.

Sorry but think these developments should just come under North end under 100m....
oh dear...

VCCC is $1.4billion... this project is due for commencement of construction beginning next year should they sort the budget issues
RMH masterplan was at $1.8billion about 4 years ago
PDI is $210million
Melbourne Brain Centre was over $200million across Heidelberg and Parkville Campus
The Grattan St / Royal Pde underground train station will be part of a $10billion+ new train tunnel system

big enough for you?
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Old July 15th, 2011, 04:52 PM   #5
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Not sure how busy this thread will be, but I say let's keep it.

I was going to add the AFR info in after I read it today, but you beat me to it

Brookfield Multiplex are doing well in the health space of late. The brain centre and now this one.
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Old July 16th, 2011, 02:52 AM   #6
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Don't listen to em Chelsworth. Here are a couple of pics taken a few months ago from RMH helipad to move the thread along.

Future VCCC site


This building is about 50% demolished.. unfortunately.


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nice pics!

got any of the service tunnels under RMH?
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Old July 16th, 2011, 03:41 AM   #8
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that roundabout area would be PERFECT for a large civic square... if only it want a major artery to and from the city/marjor rds around it.

im not saything they SHUOLD make it a square but the look of it and the fact thats its only surrounded by shitty old 1story buildigns allows the imagination to run wild! at least we have FED square!
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No pics myself, but easily obtained... The RMH hospital tunnels & steam tunnels are open to the public as part of 2011 Open House. http://melbourneopenhouse.org/cms-program-2011/map.phps

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got any of the service tunnels under RMH?
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http://www.health.vic.gov.au/victorianccc/

The Victorian Comprehensive Cancer Centre Project was formerly known as the Parkville Comprehensive Cancer Centre Project.

On 7 May 2009, both the Victorian and Australian Governments announced funding for the construction of a $1 billion comprehensive cancer centre in Parkville, Melbourne. Construction of the new facility will begin in 2011 and be completed by the end of 2015.

The collaboration

The Victorian Comprehensive Cancer Centre (Victorian CCC) is a powerful alliance between the Peter MacCallum Cancer Centre, Melbourne Health, The University of Melbourne, Ludwig Institute for Cancer Research Melbourne - Parkville Branch, Walter and Eliza Hall Institute of Medical Research, The Royal Women’s Hospital and The Royal Children’s Hospital. The seven members have established the Victorian CCC as a joint venture.

The Victorian CCC is based on the principle that the more minds dedicated to cancer working closely together, the faster we will find ways to reduce the impact of cancer in our community.

It will see the next generation of advances in the prevention, detection and treatment of cancer. The centre will accelerate the discovery of new treatments, attract the nation’s leading cancer researchers and provide a centre of excellence for people affected by cancer.

The Victorian CCC will have a major role in education and training, contributing to the ongoing renewal of the clinical and research workforce in Victoria and beyond.


The site

The main building will be constructed on the site of the former Royal Dental Hospital (FDH), bordered by Flemington Road, Elizabeth Street and Grattan Street in Parkville. Demolition of the former Royal Dental Hospital was completed in August 2010. New facilities will be constructed on The Royal Melbourne Hospital – City Campus site on the corner of Grattan Street and Royal Parade, with the north and south sides linked across Grattan Street.

The facilities

The Victorian CCC will include 196 inpatient beds, 110 same-day treatment places, eight medi-hotel beds, eight radiation therapy bunkers and more than 30,000 square metres of research space capable of accommodating up to 1,400 cancer researchers.

The vision

The Victorian CCC will drive leadership and innovation in the fields of cancer treatment, research and education by having the largest concentration of cancer clinicians and researchers in the southern hemisphere, ranking it among the top ten cancer centres in the world.

It will be a centre of excellence that facilitates the rapid translation of ground-breaking discoveries from ‘bench to bedside’, attracting the best and brightest researchers and clinicians and drawing international investment and research collaborations.

Cancer in Victoria

Cancer is Victoria’s biggest killer and generates a high level of consumer concern. The care of cancer patients represents a significant proportion of all health care delivered in the State. It is a priority both for State and Federal Governments to improve cancer services and advance research in preventing cancer.

This first pic is old because although it shows the Womens Hospital, it doesn't show the new WEHI Research labs building or the Uni's new Neurosciences Building on Royal Parade.



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Old July 16th, 2011, 06:15 AM   #11
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oh dear...

VCCC is $1.4billion... this project is due for commencement of construction beginning next year should they sort the budget issues
RMH masterplan was at $1.8billion about 4 years ago
PDI is $210million
Melbourne Brain Centre was over $200million across Heidelberg and Parkville Campus
The Grattan St / Royal Pde underground train station will be part of a $10billion+ new train tunnel system

big enough for you?
Don't doubt the forecasted spend on the area, but truth is that this is a skyscraper forum - none of these are over 10 stories. Spend on a project or group of projects does not mean it deserves it's own thread!

RMH project included WEHI - now finished, and further plans for expansion including the removal of the supplies building and adding to the current main block above level 9 that have no current grounding for immediate funding.

You can't include the Austin BRI centre as part of your argument either. Howard Florey Institute sure, but not Austin! Plus it's already finished so why include it?

Underground rail system is many years away.

Just sayign that it is a thread that is going to get little action for quite some time, and even when it does the buildings are mid/low-rise and should be included, like all others, in the general thread.
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Don't doubt the forecasted spend on the area, but truth is that this is a skyscraper forum - none of these are over 10 stories. Spend on a project or group of projects does not mean it deserves it's own thread!
Right so using that logic we shouldn't assess or review buildings with significance and large budgets? So have you posted your feelings in the Melbourne Park Redevelopment thread? Buildings such as Southern Cross station, anything on Flinders St Station, Parliament house etc should never get a thread?

Additionally, PDI is ten floors above ground, two below ground and if you include the Chiller platform it is technically 11 levels.

Designs for VCCC are over 10 stories as they need to achieve the brief floor area and they can not to that without going over 10 floors.

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RMH project included WEHI - now finished, and further plans for expansion including the removal of the supplies building and adding to the current main block above level 9 that have no current grounding for immediate funding.
WEHI is not a part of RMH and not a part of the masterplan.

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You can't include the Austin BRI centre as part of your argument either. Howard Florey Institute sure, but not Austin! Plus it's already finished so why include it?
Recent completion.. so what? People don't have construction pictures? People can't elaborate on construction issues? It contains PC labs and I am always keen to hear about the PC lab issues.

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Underground rail system is many years away.
Not as far as you think...

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Just sayign that it is a thread that is going to get little action for quite some time, and even when it does the buildings are mid/low-rise and should be included, like all others, in the general thread.
if you don't like the thread, dont read it and dont comment on it... pretty simple really.
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Old July 16th, 2011, 01:32 PM   #13
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that roundabout area would be PERFECT for a large civic square... if only it want a major artery to and from the city/marjor rds around it.

im not saything they SHUOLD make it a square but the look of it and the fact thats its only surrounded by shitty old 1story buildigns allows the imagination to run wild! at least we have FED square!
haha wishful thinking but I like it... perhaps a decking over the top? Melbourne Uni own the car yard and the surrounding buildings on the block bound by berkeley, pelham, grattan & elizabeth streets so perhaps another university square type area?

PT would benefit too from the lack of pedestrian traffic especially if the hospitals were linked...

very wishful thinking
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Love the decking idea.

Would go a long way to improving the pedestrian links in the area. Better Activation would help give that area a great boost, and bring further life to what is now a traffic nightmare.
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to develop it further and to assist in the traffic segregation totally, you could raise the trams onto the deck as well enabling a true pedestrian / tram area similar to Bourke St Mall and then it is just cars and trucks below hopefully dropping the number of incidents at the complex roundabout
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Great idea Chelsworthgale - complement the far west end of the hospital precinct with a similar tram/pedestrian plaza at Abbotsford Street with all cars/trucks below ground.
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keep this thread - its no different to all the Docklands precincts and photos of the ANZ building for example which at 16 levels isn't a skyscraper but one of the more interesting developments in Melbourne over the last 5 years.

My understanding is that VCCC will be 16 stories+5 basement levels of carparking (NN). it is still at shortlisted phase but I've heard 16 is roughly where they all landed.

RE: Haymarket as a major public square... read pages 9-15 of the link below from teh City North Structure Plan that City of Melbourne had out to public review recently.

http://www.melbourne.vic.gov.au/geti...ort_Access.pdf
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The Haymarket Roundabout safety improvements, North Melbourne seems to have commenced with works around the Elizabeth Street tram stops.
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My understanding is that VCCC will be 16 stories+5 basement levels of carparking (NN). it is still at shortlisted phase but I've heard 16 is roughly where they all landed.
correct.

not sure how that effects the flight paths of the helicopter though...
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Old July 18th, 2011, 06:43 AM   #20
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I agree that this thread is very relevant to this site and is it's own precinct just like all the Docklands precincts are their own. Yes we really do need the parkville underground station as this part of town is the only major part without heavy rail. The other 5 plus richmond are well serviced so this is the missing link.
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