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Old December 5th, 2005, 09:29 PM   #241
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^ i havent seen any yet... siguro propaganda lang yon by HM Transport... with pictures pa remember??
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Old December 6th, 2005, 05:42 PM   #242
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Kasi yung mga MM mayors masyadong pa-pogi. Nakakainis.
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Old December 6th, 2005, 07:29 PM   #243
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may thread pala para sa buses. parati akong nagbubus pauwi mula buendia/taft hanggang edsa/guadalupe. pansin ko lang maraming pangit at iniipis (yung maliliit pa!), maraming pumapasok para manghingi ng donasyon (kesyo group daw sila na nagdodonate ng wheelchairsa and hearing aids or asawa ng taong may cancer) and hindi parepareho ang singil nila (12php-15php ang biyahe depende sa kunduktor) mula nang magtaas ang presyo ng fare. minsan ung marikina auto line na ordinary (di aircon) siningil ako ng 15php. amp talaga.

nagagawa ko lang magbus dahil nakakarelax pauwi kumpara sa jeep na 12.50 ang singil and sobrang bagal hinto-hinto tapos traffic pa route (buendia intersection ng pasong tamo, ayala ave, makati ave at paseo de roxas)
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Old December 6th, 2005, 08:02 PM   #245
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may thread pala para sa buses. parati akong nagbubus pauwi mula buendia/taft hanggang edsa/guadalupe. pansin ko lang maraming pangit at iniipis (yung maliliit pa!), maraming pumapasok para manghingi ng donasyon (kesyo group daw sila na nagdodonate ng wheelchairsa and hearing aids or asawa ng taong may cancer) and hindi parepareho ang singil nila (12php-15php ang biyahe depende sa kunduktor) mula nang magtaas ang presyo ng fare. minsan ung marikina auto line na ordinary (di aircon) siningil ako ng 15php. amp talaga.

nagagawa ko lang magbus dahil nakakarelax pauwi kumpara sa jeep na 12.50 ang singil and sobrang bagal hinto-hinto tapos traffic pa route (buendia intersection ng pasong tamo, ayala ave, makati ave at paseo de roxas)
Fi-neature and racket na 'yan sa Crying Ladies in Sharon Cuneta. Uso na pala talaga 'yan sa Pinas. Akala ko sa NY subway lang may ganyan.
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Old December 6th, 2005, 08:51 PM   #246
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nakakaasar na. kahit sa jeeps. pagkatapos ng speech. merry christmas! tas tutugtog ng christmas carol sa flute. tas pagkukuhanin na ung envelop magsasabi ng thank you. pag alam na wala kang nilagay gagawing sarkastiko ang pasasalamat. nakaka-asar. gusto kong patayin.
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Old December 6th, 2005, 10:19 PM   #247
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Yeah. We should ammend some laws to augment MMDA's power. Yun lang naman kasi ang butas na nakikita ng MM mayors. Kesyo unconstitutional daw. Kesyo natatapakan na daw yung authority nila. Ang nakakainis kasi, sobrang maka-angal ang ibang MM mayors kahit para sa development din naman yung project ng MMDA. Grrrrrr!!
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Old December 6th, 2005, 10:20 PM   #248
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^ dito sa south, meron din... they identify themselves as part of dalaw kalinga foundation, w/ proof of pics, website & contact no's etc...never bothered to know tho if their activity is really genuine o raket lang...
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Old December 7th, 2005, 03:53 AM   #249
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taken from an editorial from philstar.com..

CNG buses
This is the problem with the tendency of this government to mistake photo op as the program itself. Remember the big thing they played up about the CNG buses – public buses powered by natural gas from Malampaya? After the start up ceremonies in Malacañang, the follow through was less than desirable. Now, the bus operators who borrowed good money to buy these buses are complaining because the program is not really ready for implementation.

According to the magazine of the Makati Business Club, CNG bus operators have been complaining about the continued delay of the start up of the filling stations since they are paying loan interests on their newly acquired CNG buses. Although only 7 CNG buses have been delivered to operators so far, more units will arrive in the coming months. The CNG-fueled buses were supposed to run their routes starting September, when the refilling stations were scheduled to open.

The Malampaya consortium, composed of Shell Philippines Exploration B.V., Chevron-Texaco Malampaya LLC, and Philippine National Oil Co.—Exploration Corp., is responsible for the construction and management of the mother station in Batangas. The Shell group will operate the CNG refilling station in Laguna.

I e-mailed Ed Chua of Pilipinas Shell and here is his response.

Thanks for getting our side on this matter. Both the mother and daughter station are mechanically complete but when our consultant inspected the facilities (specially the mother station), said consultant found serious safety issues which need to be addressed. Note that CNG has a vapor pressure which is eight times at least that of LPG. And considering that this is the first time we are introducing CNG to the transport market in the Philippines (i.e. we have no experience locally) we do not want to take any risk.

This unfortunately means that the much awaited launching will have to be postponed until such time when our consultant is satisfied that the contractor has addressed all our safety concerns. We are hoping that this happens soon but at this point in time, I cannot yet give a definite date.

Yun naman pala. So, why the premature hoopla? And what about the poor bus operators who must pay interest on a non-performing loan? This government must learn that premature press releases or photo ops can erode what little credibility they still have. And they must take care of those bus operators who believed their schedule. Otherwise, who would believe future government programs that need early adaptors?
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Old December 7th, 2005, 05:45 AM   #250
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I knew this would happen. We looked at this a few years back and I was wondering how they would address this issue. There's a reason why cng poweris specialized in the US. And bulk supplies are almost always transported through pipe not trucks. This is seldom done as in less than .00001%. You can not assume similar processes and use the same technologies as LPG for CNG, somebody must have dropped the ball on this one. DANG. That means this project is not only pushing through immediately but has suffered a severe setback, now unless the bus operators complaints are addressed you will find no future operators of this. How sad.
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Old December 7th, 2005, 04:12 PM   #251
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taken from an editorial from philstar.com..

CNG buses
This is the problem with the tendency of this government to mistake photo op as the program itself. Remember the big thing they played up about the CNG buses – public buses powered by natural gas from Malampaya? After the start up ceremonies in Malacañang, the follow through was less than desirable. Now, the bus operators who borrowed good money to buy these buses are complaining because the program is not really ready for implementation.

According to the magazine of the Makati Business Club, CNG bus operators have been complaining about the continued delay of the start up of the filling stations since they are paying loan interests on their newly acquired CNG buses. Although only 7 CNG buses have been delivered to operators so far, more units will arrive in the coming months. The CNG-fueled buses were supposed to run their routes starting September, when the refilling stations were scheduled to open.

The Malampaya consortium, composed of Shell Philippines Exploration B.V., Chevron-Texaco Malampaya LLC, and Philippine National Oil Co.—Exploration Corp., is responsible for the construction and management of the mother station in Batangas. The Shell group will operate the CNG refilling station in Laguna.

I e-mailed Ed Chua of Pilipinas Shell and here is his response.

Thanks for getting our side on this matter. Both the mother and daughter station are mechanically complete but when our consultant inspected the facilities (specially the mother station), said consultant found serious safety issues which need to be addressed. Note that CNG has a vapor pressure which is eight times at least that of LPG. And considering that this is the first time we are introducing CNG to the transport market in the Philippines (i.e. we have no experience locally) we do not want to take any risk.

This unfortunately means that the much awaited launching will have to be postponed until such time when our consultant is satisfied that the contractor has addressed all our safety concerns. We are hoping that this happens soon but at this point in time, I cannot yet give a definite date.

Yun naman pala. So, why the premature hoopla? And what about the poor bus operators who must pay interest on a non-performing loan? This government must learn that premature press releases or photo ops can erode what little credibility they still have. And they must take care of those bus operators who believed their schedule. Otherwise, who would believe future government programs that need early adaptors?

My head ached upon reading this. We should see some heads rolling.
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Old December 7th, 2005, 04:21 PM   #252
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When in doubt, don't give na lang.
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Old December 7th, 2005, 10:13 PM   #253
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hmmm, in other words, the filling stations arent stil operational bec. the oil co's dont want to take any risks??? i find this reasoning quite silly! ayaw lang nila talaga coz it will definitely slash cartel's profit on selling petrols...
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Old December 31st, 2005, 09:52 PM   #254
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Bus firm tests airline-style road travel to Baguio
Posted: 11:31 PM | Dec. 31, 2005
Vincent Cabreza
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(Published on page B2 of the January 1, 2006 issue of the Philippine Daily Inquirer)

BAGUIO CITY—Travel to cool Baguio is its biggest disappointment nowadays, with tourists enduring five to eight hours of traffic along North Luzon cities to reach the summer capital.

But pay P500 for an experimental bus ride courtesy of the Victory Liner, and maybe a road trip to Baguio won't be as irritating.

Since October this year, the firm has been experimenting with a luxury bus that operates like an airline, with a stewardess, huge seat space and a comfort room making each trip "bearable" to the uppity and fastidious, and "relaxing" to the traveling traders, says Ricardo Chan, Victory's Baguio station master.

John Edward Hernandez, Victory's chief of operations, says the firm has concluded after a three-month test that this new road service already beats airlines, and Victory has commissioned the manufacture of a fleet of 10 buses for the Baguio route.

Tourist arrivals have grown as a result, says Shean Bedi, senior marketing officer of the Camp John Hay Development Corp. (CJHDevco).

Bedi says hotels in Baguio have long asked for an "out-of-the-box" solution to the "horrendous journey" tourists endure to visit this mountain city, and the "airline-service" bus lines appeared to be the transport industry's response.

"Our business clients have taken it and we have not received the same kind of complaints hotels usually get for the long journey," he says.

Chan says Victory has invested heavily in upgrading Baguio travel because the city is crucial to its operations. It is the only tourist destination with the fewest lean months, he says.

"Tourists and traders start motoring to Baguio in October and this upsurge of visitors continue to All Saints' Day in November, the Christmas holidays in December, the Panagbenga Flower Festival in February, and Holy Week and the summer holiday in March to May," Chan says.

He says no other tourist destination serviced by Victory Liner has this much commercial opportunity.

The three-month experiment began in October and required four luxury buses to run on shifts ferrying passengers every day.

Each bus is equipped to service up to 29 passengers, unlike ordinary air-conditioned buses, which accommodate up to 49 people.

The luxury bus leaves the firm's terminal in Cubao, Quezon City, at 12:15 a.m. every day for Baguio. From Baguio, another bus leaves at 1:15 p.m. for Cubao.

A stewardess serves passengers in-between meals, sometimes will offer them "hot towels," switch on two monitors which screen the latest movies, and usher them to the comfort room at the back end of the bus, says Chan.

The firm's inventory roster shows that the luxury buses served more than 3,000 passengers in October, earning the firm roughly P2 million on their test phase.

Chan says the profit earned in 2005 was remarkable. It was Victory Liner's poorest year in recent times because of a meningococcemia outbreak that discouraged travel to the city even during the peak tourist season.

"This disease was aggravated by the fluctuating oil prices, which increased 26 times, and the recent expanded value-added tax on gasoline. We were also hit hard by the increase in highway toll fees," Chan says.

A fleet of luxury buses may threaten the local airlines, though. Chan says foreigners started to choose their bus rides instead of booking a flight out of Baguio because airline schedules often rely on this city's unpredictable weather.

"Usually, planes cancel flights because of Baguio's fog, and where else would they go but to the bus terminals. We offer them something like an airline crew, and they realize it's a boon for their businesses," he says.

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Old December 31st, 2005, 11:27 PM   #255
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Destination: Baguio City

As we prepare to leave the bus terminal, Please return your tray tables and seat backs into their full upright and most uncomfortable position.

There may be 50 ways to leave your lover, but there are only four ways out of this bus.

Your seat cushions can be used for floatation, and in the event of an emergency, please take them with our compliments.

We do feature a smoking section on this ride. If you must smoke, contact a member of the bus crew and we will escort you to the side of the bus.

Smoking in the lavatories is prohibited. Any person caught smoking in the lavatories will be asked to leave the bus immediately.

Well, folks, we have reached our cruising speed now, so I am going to switch the seat belt sign off. Feel free to move about as you wish, but please stay inside the bus till we arrive at destination.

Thank you for riding with us. We hope you have enjoyed giving us the business as much as we enjoyed taking you for a ride.

If you enjoyed your ride, my name is Rusty and this is Victory Liner. If you didn't, my name is Edwin and this is Marikina Autoline.

Captain: We've reached our cruising speed and should be reaching our destination soon. If there's anything we can do to make your ride more comfortable, aside from "over-speeding", please let us know.

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Old December 31st, 2005, 11:29 PM   #256
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i can't wait to hear this when i go to Baguio City soon!
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Old January 1st, 2006, 03:54 AM   #257
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nice one Rusty18.
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Old January 1st, 2006, 03:59 AM   #258
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very cool
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Old January 1st, 2006, 02:46 PM   #259
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does anyone have a picture of this 29 seater Victory Liner? I would really love it, if it is a MAN Diesel.

Any photo of the old PANTRANCO Bus? Would you have an idea where are those old trucks?
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Old January 18th, 2006, 05:46 AM   #260
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taken from abscbnnews.com.. its about time.. they should phase out 10 year old buses narin!

LTFRB implements phase-out of old buses

The Land Transportation Franchising and Regulatory Board (LTFRB) on Wednesday urged bus operators to comply with the phase-out program for 15-year-old public utility buses.

LTFRB chairwoman Elena Bautista said buses manufactured more than 15 years ago should be replaced with newer ones since these pose a danger to commuters. Along EDSA alone, buses serve about 1.2 million commuters, Bautista said.

"It's basically [implemented] to modernize and to provide better services to the commuters and in compliance to the Clean Air Act," Bautista told ANC.

Bautista said that several public consultations with bus operators were conducted to inform them of the order of the Department of Transportation and Communication (DOTC) issued on 2002.

A point of contention among bus operators and the LTFRB is the counting of years since the manufacture of the vehicles. The former DOTC secretary Amado Lagdameo issued a department order, which recognizes the "date of reckoning" for imported old buses as the date of initial registration.

A new department order from DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza says that the date of reckoning for old buses starts from the date of manufacture of the vehicles. The LTFRB set the standard number of 15 years for buses to ply the roads.

Bautista said the government is also working on road worthiness facility testing areas.

She said the LTFRB usually checks on the condition of the buses only when bus operators renew their franchises.
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