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Old March 1st, 2015, 05:44 PM   #1021
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The remaining Tarmac area opposite the main entrance was being dug up by traffic signals today.
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Old March 3rd, 2015, 01:44 AM   #1023
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The remaining Tarmac area opposite the main entrance was being dug up by traffic signals today.
Wow! Were they robot traffic signals!? I'd have thought they'd have just got workmen to do it!
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Old March 3rd, 2015, 10:08 AM   #1024
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Wow! Were they robot traffic signals!? I'd have thought they'd have just got workmen to do it!

I should have used caps there.
Maybe there should have been robot workers as CS has taken getting on for two years now!
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Old March 3rd, 2015, 11:38 PM   #1025
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As mentioned already........

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Sooner they finish it, the better as I don't think having this size of vehicle regularly on the normal pavement will do the pavement any good.

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Old March 4th, 2015, 10:06 AM   #1026
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One thing that nobody seems to have noticed. The station portico, which has just been closed in, is built of lovely warm sandstone. It couldn't be built today as the skills are missing. After spending a heck of a lot of money building the interior they haven't even pointed the exterior stonework! It's not going to fall down or anything but you'd think they'd do a proper job (or maybe not).

There's a tunnel runs from under the station to the old post office building behind (and not a lot of people know that). The water tower, nearby, is probably listed and is very handsome but neglected. It's too close to the lines for a retail development and has an air of dereliction.
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Old March 4th, 2015, 10:56 AM   #1027
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There's a tunnel runs from under the station to the old post office building behind (and not a lot of people know that). The water tower, nearby, is probably listed and is very handsome but neglected. It's too close to the lines for a retail development and has an air of dereliction.

The old tunnels under Central Station have been discussed a bit here on the forum, in the past.

Links to those posts (and about some proposals/ideas for 'new' tunnels) are listed on the INDEX THREAD, under "C" for 'Central Station', an extract from which is copied below . . .


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Old March 4th, 2015, 11:09 AM   #1028
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One thing that nobody seems to have noticed. The station portico, which has just been closed in, is built of lovely warm sandstone. It couldn't be built today as the skills are missing.

Here are TWO photos of the Central Station Portico, under construction in 1848 . .






Here is a photo from (I think) 1959, of major works being done to the portico . .




Here are the late 1970s works on the corner of the Portico, while the Underground Line and Underground Station were being built for the Metro . .






All of the above photos (though I have had them on my hard drive for many years, taken from original prints) can be found on the "Newcastle City Council/City Libraries PHOTOSTREAM" Website - https://www.flickr.com/photos/newcastlelibraries/

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Old March 4th, 2015, 12:32 PM   #1029
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Amazing. Didn't realise the Portico had been extensively modified over the years. I'm surprised it has lasted.
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Here are TWO photos of the Central Station Portico, under construction in 1848 . .

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Amazing photos NH!

However, my understanding is that the portico was not constructed in 1848 (which would be too early to photograph at this 'quality'!)

I believe that Central Station was built in 1848-50, and the portico was added later in 1863 I believe, which would be more apt a date for being able to be photographed!

Those laminated timber trusses are also very similar to the description of the original laminate timber roof built by Dobson in the Grainger Market hall, before it burned down. This could mean the portico was built 16 years after Dobson designed it to his very design!

What is perhaps a travesty is that this timber was ripped out by presumably BR to make office space in the portico roof, your pics only slightly make it out.

Dobson was one of the few architects to really experiment with advanced structural materials in his time. We are grateful that we have representing our region a provincial architect that mastered both the past, as evidenced by his fine neoclassical and gothic buildings throughout Newcastle and beyond, but also someone that wasn't afraid to invent a new type of metal structured roof or utilise new timber technology. Perhaps Central Station with its fašade facing Neville Street representing the best of his past, and the trainshed looking to the future of construction.

This is why the portico redevelopment with a bit more money could have opened up the portico roof with a laminated timber framed glazed skylight, lightening the space but also reinstating a nod to an innovative feature of Dobson sadly to my knowledge no longer present in the city.
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Old March 5th, 2015, 12:58 AM   #1031
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Here are the late 1970s works on the corner of the Portico, while the Underground Line and Underground Station were being built for the Metro . .


All of the above photos (though I have had them on my hard drive for many years, taken from original prints) can be found on the "Newcastle City Council/City Libraries PHOTOSTREAM" Website -

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Lovely. That top one is mine, not yet bequeathed to the Library. Wait until I die for that.
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There's office spaces inside the portico roof!?
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Old March 5th, 2015, 03:42 PM   #1033
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it is great to see this work coming to an end as its taken almost 21 months to bring this project to completion, first evidence I can find of the actual start of the road works is way back in kens photographic post 215 section( 11) 8th June 2013. just wondering has any body seen any evidence of the exciting lighting scheme we were promised by the council or is it yet to be installed? cheers..

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There's office spaces inside the portico roof!?
yes it is a bit of a surprise to find that there are offices in the roof. imagine if they were not there and the portico roof was fully glazed. that would have given the portico the extra wow factor. cheers
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yes it is a bit of a surprise to find that there are offices in the roof. imagine if they were not there and the portico roof was fully glazed. that would have given the portico the extra wow factor. cheers
The problem with glass roofs is that unless they are regularly cleaned they get dirty quickly. I imagine a full glazed roof would have gone down this dirty route very quickly
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There's office spaces inside the portico roof!?
Yes. They are laid out in an unexpected arrangement with rooms to the north of an east west corridor, but spaced out such that each room has windows looking onto the flat roof on their east and west faces (and of course looking into each other). They are timber built, but the standard of construction of these high level rooms is poor and are prone to suffering from cold, draughts and leaks.
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I take it the office spaces in the portico were modelled in the 1950s?
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The problem with glass roofs is that unless they are regularly cleaned they get dirty quickly. I imagine a full glazed roof would have gone down this dirty route very quickly
Not if you use self cleaning glass and its not difficult to design in maintenance access
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Amazing. Didn't realise the Portico had been extensively modified over the years. I'm surprised it has lasted.
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yes it is a bit of a surprise to find that there are offices in the roof. imagine if they were not there and the portico roof was fully glazed. that would have given the portico the extra wow factor. cheers
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Yes. They are laid out in an unexpected arrangement with rooms to the north of an east west corridor, but spaced out such that each room has windows looking onto the flat roof on their east and west faces (and of course looking into each other). They are timber built, but the standard of construction of these high level rooms is poor and are prone to suffering from cold, draughts and leaks.
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I take it the office spaces in the portico were modelled in the 1950s?
I never realised there were offices up there, but they show up quite well on Google Maps satellite view......which can be rotated through 360 degrees too in the close up angled views

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=NE1...d+Kingdom&z=20
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