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Old February 25th, 2014, 12:13 AM   #101
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In the middle of the two clusters there's a new cluster emerging, Seyrantepe. 287m x 2 + 200m U/C, 212m Prep and 340m + 252m Approved


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Old February 25th, 2014, 12:43 AM   #104
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Question: Do anyone know what they are construction in the left side of the photo...in the distance?...It seems to be a tall highrise, but I can't quite place it..
it's the "Giax Tower", a residential tower of 25 floors and 90 metres of height. the tower is already topped out.

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Old February 25th, 2014, 12:55 AM   #105
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Old February 25th, 2014, 01:06 AM   #106
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Old February 25th, 2014, 09:55 AM   #107
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If London can put more highrises between those three clusters, it could give cities like NY, Shanghai and Chicago etc a run of their money.
If by 'more highrises' you mean erect another 300-500 buildings over 100m, I would have to agree. Then again, you could say that for any city.
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Old February 25th, 2014, 10:08 AM   #108
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Yeah, a lot of highrises/skyscrapers would have to be build to close those gaps and to be as dense as NY, Chicago and Shanghai in order to really give them a run for their money. I don't see this happening, not even in a 100 years. A lot of historic neighborhoods would have to be destroyed for that.
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I don't think it needs that sort of quantity. London is very iconic already with the like of St Pauls, Millennium Wheel, Big Ben, Swiss RE, The Shard etc. What it needs is high quality iconic structures. London has the advantage of historical icons on the skyline to not require the density that Shanghai has for instance. What it needs is well positioned and well designed high rises.

London has lots of clusters. Canary Wharf will be huge in 10 years time. The City will double in size.

Then you have the likes of 9 Elms. London is lots of little towns and these clusters signify that I think.

This is 9 Elms. Over 20 towers in and around this area of 100m plus. Currently 180m St Georges Wharf was the first major tower to be completed.

Probably the largest development site in Europe.

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Old February 25th, 2014, 11:53 AM   #110
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Old February 25th, 2014, 12:20 PM   #111
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Probably the largest development site in Europe.
Wikipedia says Hamburg Hafencity is:
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Old February 25th, 2014, 01:37 PM   #112
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Wikipedia says Hamburg Hafencity is:
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Ohh good shout. 2.2 km2 against 2 km2. However, 9 Elms has much higher density.

If you're talking about land area then surely Stratford in London is the largest on going redevelopment? 2.5 sq km.
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So it has a higher density, good for you!
Why do you Brits (in this forum at least) always have to claim the highest, biggest, best, most expensive, most iconic...whatever. It's a little annoying and the only reason I chimed in.
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So it has a higher density, good for you!
Why do you Brits (in this forum at least) always have to claim the highest, biggest, best, most expensive, most iconic...whatever. It's a little annoying and the only reason I chimed in.
It's not a claim. It's a fact. I've just said Hafen city is a little bit bigger in terms of area than Nine Elms by 0.2km2. The floor space being developed at Nine Elms however is considerably larger.

However in terms of area Stratford City is 2.5km2. Which is larger than Hafencity.

You were the one who made the claim in the first place. I originally said "probably" which is not a definate "claim" - it was a assumption on it's massive scale as I am not aware of all major projects planned in the vast swathe of Europe.

Maybe it's more a case of you having a chip on shoulder attitude. You can't ignore facts. I'm not a Londoner. Infact I could go on to say that Birmingham has the largest city masterplan in place in the whole of Europe but it wasn't relevant to the discussion so what is the point.

Nine Elms in terms of overall construction floorspace is the largest development being undertaken in Europe. Why would you want to believe something different when it wouldn't be true? That is your argument.

You can't throw your toys out the pram if the information you believe to be true, isn't. You can't just choose what you want to believe is right.

Stratford City - 2.5km2
Hafen City - 2.2km2
Nine Elms - 2.0km2

Also in the context of discussion of the best European Skylines, Nine Elms and Stratford City will have serious impacts on the London Skyline where in comparison Hafencity will have limited impact and an already non existant skyline.

Both re-developments in London are designated highrise clusters of towers We are talking 20+ 100m at both sites roughly.

You may want to use area as the basis of your argument, but if that was to be the case, Stratford topples Hafencity in area while Nine Elms topples Stratford City in commericial and residential space.
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