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Old September 21st, 2019, 07:52 AM   #521
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According to the presentation at today’s VTA board meeting, BART to Santa Clara will now not arrive until 2030 and will cost $5.6B vs. the previous estimate of 2027 and $4.7B. A lot of the increased cost and time is due to BARTs unwillingness to cooperate with VTAs plan for stacked tracks and platforms inside the tunnel. The latest plan increases the tunnel volume by 50% so that BART can run trains side-by-side as they prefer. This change on its own will cost $700-800M extra.

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Old October 2nd, 2019, 03:41 PM   #522
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https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/09/...ew-fare-gates/

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“There is no more important project than the second crossing” for the next several decades of Bay Area transportation, BART General Manager Robert Powers
This line of thinking hinges on the idea that we *must* connect people to SF. It ignores the better ROI we'll get by improving transit within the counties.

And it ignores that the basis of the load on the tube is the severe and self-imposed housing shortage in SF. Should the whole bay area spend tens of billions just so that SF can continue to offload the housing burden on to east bay cities?
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Old October 3rd, 2019, 05:05 AM   #523
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Stop caring about municipalities. The Bay Area functions as a single city.
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Old October 3rd, 2019, 06:52 AM   #524
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Stop caring about municipalities. The Bay Area functions as a single city.
Taxes don't, though.

And that misses the point that some projects are so damned expensive that it wrecks the ROI compared to smaller, more local projects.
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Old October 6th, 2019, 12:04 AM   #525
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This line of thinking hinges on the idea that we *must* connect people to SF. It ignores the better ROI we'll get by improving transit within the counties.

And it ignores that the basis of the load on the tube is the severe and self-imposed housing shortage in SF. Should the whole bay area spend tens of billions just so that SF can continue to offload the housing burden on to east bay cities?

You have a good point, and SF should certainly be building more housing. however, over 50% of BARTs ridership is to/from Market St. SF as it is the only place in the Bay Area with sufficient jobs density to support high transit mode share.

As a region. we should be Increasing the density of jobs in other major centers like Oakland and DTSJ and making sure they are also served by high capacity transit like BART. That is the only way to increase regional transit mode share in the future.

I suggest taxing companies based on where they are located. A new regional transit tax that is lowest for companies located in transit rich areas would be ideal, A payroll tax based on average VMT per employee is a possible mechanism to achieve this.
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Old November 11th, 2019, 11:56 PM   #526
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VTA Inks Landmark Deal with BART Over South Bay Extension

https://www.sanjoseinside.com/2019/1...bay-extension/

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The new Operations and Maintenance Agreement has been three-and-a-half years in the making and comes 18 years after VTA entered into an agreement to bring BART to the South Bay. The two agencies shook hands on the deal just as BART is finishing construction on its Milpitas and San JoseÂ’s Berryessa stations.
According to VTA spokeswoman Bernice Alaniz regarding Phase II:
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VTA has also delayed Phase II of VTA’s six-mile extension from the Berryessa to the 28th Street/Little Portugal, Downtown San Jose, Diridon and Santa Clara stations from 2026 to 2030. And even that deadline isn’t set in stone, according to Alaniz.
In the final part of this article, Santa Clara councilwoman and VTA board member Teresa O’Neill says:
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“At this point, I don't know how accurate it is for anyone to make a prediction [of completing Phase II],” “I’m hopeful that [BART] will find a way to get it open. We were in a meeting with a couple BART people. They have to tamper down some of the expectations on their side.”
Based upon Bart's track record of late, the year of 2030 is probably an overly optimistic date. The longer the delays, the more cost overruns which means that VTA/Bart will have to go to the well for additional funding (probably in the hundreds of millions) to get this project completed.
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Old November 12th, 2019, 08:37 PM   #527
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Why can't we have nice things?
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