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Old November 26th, 2019, 08:20 PM   #21
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Yes, Chabphotos still think like he lives in 1969. The world has changed. Nowadays you need good intelligence service, cyber warfare, drones etc to win war . Morocco is not a worldpower, or part of NATO. They don't need to spend billions. The weapons Morocco buys will stay in warehouses to rust.
Intelligence service= 2 Cutting edge spy settelites: Check

Cyber Warfare = Gulfstream G550 ISR: Check
Drone= Morocco already operates a few drones and the Apache pilots can operate them from inside the helicopter. Check

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Old November 27th, 2019, 10:27 AM   #22
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Intelligence service= 2 Cutting edge spy settelites: Check

Cyber Warfare = Gulfstream G550 ISR: Check
Drone= Morocco already operates a few drones and the Apache pilots can operate them from inside the helicopter. Check

Dont count your chicken before the hatch

Intelligence service : 5 years life span...and then what? any replacements?
Cyber Warfare : The deal is not completely done, especially when it is paid for by UAE, lobbied for by Israel and Saudi Arabia will drag Morocco to conflicts at its own choosing. So, it looks too complicated to be under the control of Morocco https://www.menadefense.net/afnord/w...secours-maroc/

Drone : Do we make them? do we have the technology to make them? for me this is more important than owning them.

Look, we are building a very big dependency on others for our security and we should not. I keep hearing that we Moroccans are the smartest, sharpest, cleverest people in the world and yet we depend on others for our education (France), security (France, USA), political stability (France).
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Old November 27th, 2019, 09:00 PM   #23
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Dont count your chicken before the hatch

Intelligence service : 5 years life span...and then what? any replacements?
Cyber Warfare : The deal is not completely done, especially when it is paid for by UAE, lobbied for by Israel and Saudi Arabia will drag Morocco to conflicts at its own choosing. So, it looks too complicated to be under the control of Morocco https://www.menadefense.net/afnord/w...secours-maroc/

Drone : Do we make them? do we have the technology to make them? for me this is more important than owning them.

Look, we are building a very big dependency on others for our security and we should not. I keep hearing that we Moroccans are the smartest, sharpest, cleverest people in the world and yet we depend on others for our education (France), security (France, USA), political stability (France).

- Five years is the warranty period of the satellittes. Your car doesn't stop working after its five years warranty expires, does it?
- Too complicated to be under the the control of Morocco? lol On what do you base this silly notion other than the contempt you seem to have for your country and countrymen?
-There is a Moroccan company that makes drone locally but obviously the American and Isreali drone are top of the range and would be silly not to have them.
Here are some of the drones made in Morocco:


https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/201...cle-takes-off/

Here is another one with some promising products.
https://www.bda-africa.com/






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Old November 28th, 2019, 09:41 AM   #24
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- Five years is the warranty period of the satellittes. Your car doesn't stop working after its five years warranty expires, does it?
- Too complicated to be under the the control of Morocco? lol On what do you base this silly notion other than the contempt you seem to have for your country and countrymen?
-There is a Moroccan company that makes drone locally but obviously the American and Isreali drone are top of the range and would be silly not to have them.
Here are some of the drones made in Morocco:


https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/201...cle-takes-off/

Here is another one with some promising products.
https://www.bda-africa.com/






Far from it, I have the least contempt for my country and countrymen but not the elite and decision makers who have no clue what they are doing, no vision for the country.

Also, you misunderstood what I said (which is fine) so I suggest you read it again. I was questioning the whole set up where you have Saudi Arabia (paying for things), UAE (payingfor things), Israel (lobbying), USA (selling) and you are telling me that this is not a complicated setup???? Morocco does not have ANY leverage against any pf those countries and I cannot see how Morocco can get his way without any sort of "quid pro quo" and Yemen is an example!!

As for being not to have them, well if we can afford them then I am all for it but....


Thanks for the links about the drones, I already saw some of them and I was impressed BUT we need the will to invest more on this technology and actually use them in our military so that we do not depend on the American or Israeli ones.
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A twin-barreled 23mm gun locally upgraded to be remotely controlled and fitted with a heat vision system.



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A twin-barreled 23mm gun locally upgraded to be remotely controlled and fitted with a heat vision system.


Morocco should upgrade all there Shilkas with westrn tech and Iglas/Stinger and add short range radar !



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Une info qui date un peu mais il semblerait qu'il y a une volonté d'acquérir un sous-marin de seconde main à moyen terme.
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"Le Maroc en train d'acheter des sous-marins" (ministre portugais)


Le Maroc est-il en train d’acquérir des sous-marins ? Après l’Espagne, cette fois-ci c’est du Portugal qu’une source officielle l’affirme. A prendre avec prudence.

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Au final, ces déclarations et informations viennent confirmer que le Maroc s’intéresse à de futures capacités sous-marines et qu’il est en train de concevoir sa propre doctrine dans ce domaine. Mais rien n’indique une acquisition immédiate, sauf surprise. Un expert militaire déclarait récemment à Médias24 qu’il n’y aura pas, selon lui, d’achat de sous-marins par le Maroc avant 2022.
https://www.medias24.com/le-maroc-en...gais-3514.html
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I have read somewhere that Moroccan crews have already been dispatched to Greece and Portugal to train on their German made Subs.
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Just in !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Morocco is in negotiation with Navantia for two Ocean Patrouillers !!!!!!!!!!!!

Google is your friend !


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https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20...48m-arms-deal/

Morocco this week received three Israeli reconnaissance drones as part of $48 million arms deal, French website Intelligence Online reported.
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Morocco this week received three Israeli reconnaissance drones as part of $48 million arms deal, French website Intelligence Online reported.
Fake news. The drones were bought six years ago used from France. The timing of circulating this rumour is suspicious.
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Fake news. The drones were bought six years ago used from France. The timing of circulating this rumour is suspicious.
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