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Old December 15th, 2006, 11:10 PM   #81
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This is the site for the future use of Texas Stadium after the Cowboys leave Irving for Arlington.
To be honest the best outcome would be to bulldoze the stadium. If it is kept open as any kind of sporting facility all it will do is split the sporting dollar amongst more groups. Since there is plans to renovate and expand the Cotton Bowl, does the area really need three large football facilities? Not to mention the Soccer stadium in the North part of the Metro and TCU stadium. As well as SMU.
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Very, very nice stadium apart from the inside - which is ghastly.
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Old December 15th, 2006, 11:55 PM   #83
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The City of Irving owns Texas Stadium. I think they'd be wise to use it as a new high shool stadium for Irving who has only one stadium. Now that Irving seems to be surging in population again, they'll need a new one soon This wouldn't be hard to make into the premier high school venue in the country. The lowest tier is at ground level. They could leave the sideline seats and create a lawn at each end of the bowl. Build a nice Press Box and leave the roof. Voila. Best High School venue in the country.
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Very, very nice stadium apart from the inside - which is ghastly.
What's wrong with the inside? I'm guessing the open ends?
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Old December 16th, 2006, 02:15 AM   #85
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The City of Irving owns Texas Stadium. I think they'd be wise to use it as a new high shool stadium for Irving who has only one stadium. Now that Irving seems to be surging in population again, they'll need a new one soon This wouldn't be hard to make into the premier high school venue in the country. The lowest tier is at ground level. They could leave the sideline seats and create a lawn at each end of the bowl. Build a nice Press Box and leave the roof. Voila. Best High School venue in the country.
I wouldnt want it to become the High School Stadium

(wich means it would be the main stadium for the three schools here -Irving HS {tigers}, Nimitz HS {vikings}, & MacArthur HS{cardinals} )

Even though our population is growing, ISS (irving school stadium) was recently redone in 2001-2002 school year, before football season of course, so there would be no need at the immidiate moment to relocate to Texas Stadium and ISS has always been on that spot since before my parents went to high school, and it is in (near) historic downtown Irving.

and it would really distrupt our rivalrys!!

Irving vs Mac

Irving HS (the south-central school) (my school) and has always hated Mac (the northern school) Its our annual SMACK MAC game...one side black & gold and the other red & white..half the city shuts down for this...

Nimitz vs Mac
Nimitz is the far southern school in the city and has the traditional cross town rivalry with Mac but its no where nere as big as the Irving game..and ISS is a sort of nuetral spot for this game...

Having Texas Stadium as the high school stadium would put the games in Cardnal territory and i can tell u the athletic directors aswell as the students (Irving's and Nimitz's) wont have it like that.

but im all for it becoming the main stadium in texas for THE PLAYOFFS AND STATE CHAMPIOSHIP games
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Old December 16th, 2006, 03:16 AM   #86
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Wow, very well thought out(except for the location and transportation situation). The building at least. The endzone seating is very well thought out for expansion. For large events like the Superbowl, they can easily add seating with great views. Looks like they followed the trend of more innovative seating bowls with views of the field even when transitioning to different sections of the stadium as well.

I've always wondered how they were going to add to the capacity but this pic clearly demonstrates how temporary seats/stands can easily be added in the end zones without looking like they're temporary . . . very cool indeed.

In fact this whole stadium just oozes in WOW and the only disappointment for me is the top tier. Personally I hate stairs on the inside and would've liked to have seen one large tier running along the sidelines but I will reserve judgment until it's finished.

Early days yet but I think we may have found our "worlds best" rectangular stadium.
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ehh....
Will the place be FIFA approved for US soccer games ??
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Old December 16th, 2006, 06:41 PM   #89
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I was wondering that with the immovable suites at ground level. If its not, it would be the first built in the NFL this decade that isn't. Could always write HKS and ask.
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worthy of a top 5 world-franchise. I think this stadium will end up looking MUCH better than the renderings, although i love how Jerry spares no expense with making models, having rederings drawn, presentations, etc.

It went from a vacuum to a saturation. This stadium should push the Cowboys into the #1 spot of World's Most Valuable sports team.
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worthy of a top 5 world-franchise. I think this stadium will end up looking MUCH better than the renderings, although i love how Jerry spares no expense with making models, having rederings drawn, presentations, etc.

It went from a vacuum to a saturation. This stadium should push the Cowboys into the #1 spot of World's Most Valuable sports team.
I wouldn't go that far as saying #1. Right now they are #3 in NFL. Behind New England and Washington.
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I wouldn't go that far as saying #1. Right now they are #3 in NFL. Behind New England and Washington.
This is all the while New England has been great, and they and the Redskins have much newer stadiums. The difference isn't that great either. This will easily put them over the top. Yes, grounds are part of the equation Forbes uses.
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Old December 17th, 2006, 05:55 AM   #93
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Actually right now Washington is valued about $400 million more than Dallas. And surprisingly enough they are starting to think about a new stadium on the RFK stadium site. I've seen reports of a stadium pushing 100 000 with a retractable roof and all the bells.

So Dallas may not have the biggest best stadium for long in the NFL.

As for #1 worldwide when it can compete with some of Europes soccer teams then it will be close to #1.
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ehh....
Will the place be FIFA approved for US soccer games ??
I don't see why not.
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Old December 17th, 2006, 07:04 AM   #95
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Actually right now Washington is valued about $400 million more than Dallas. And surprisingly enough they are starting to think about a new stadium on the RFK stadium site. I've seen reports of a stadium pushing 100 000 with a retractable roof and all the bells.

So Dallas may not have the biggest best stadium for long in the NFL.
The Dallas Cowboys are $250 million below the Redskins with a 35 year old stadium that doesn't make the suite revenue the Redskins do and who has a stadium that isn't near the size and that they don't own. The new stadium should more than make up this difference.

The stadium they were talking about for RFK was the baseball park for the Nationals. The new stadium will go at a different site. There's been no talk of Teh Daniel building a new stadium to replace the most profitable stadium in the NFL that was built in 1995.

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As for #1 worldwide when it can compete with some of Europes soccer teams then it will be close to #1.
*Makes a quick search of Forbes.com "The Lists"*

1 Manchester United England 1,373 36 10 298 82.5
2 Real Madrid Spain 1,012 54 10 334 30.0
3 AC Milan Italy 921 0 3 283 42.5
4 Arsenal England 841 74 37 207 31.6
5 Bayern Munich Germany 769 0 23 229 54.4
6 Juventus Italy 687 4 -18 278 82.3
7 Chelsea England 508 0 13 267 -11.3
8 Internazionale Milan Italy 504 NA -17 215 21.5
9 Barcelona Spain 440 NA 13 252 18.9

VS

1 Washington Redskins 1,423 13 17 303 108.4
2 New England Patriots 1,176 13 26 250 43.6
3 Dallas Cowboys 1,173 10 17 235 37.1
4 Houston Texans 1,043 10 29 222 57.6
5 Philadelphia Eagles 1,024 8 32 218 54.2
6 Denver Broncos 975 7 21 207 26.9
7 Cleveland Browns 970 9 10 206 47.1
8 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 955 9 15 203 56.9
9 Baltimore Ravens 946 9 29 201 27.8
10 Chicago Bears 945 9 20 201 51.5

1 New York Yankees 1026 8 12 277 -50.0
2 Boston Red Sox 617 10 39 206 -18.5
3 New York Mets 604 20 42 195 -16.1
4 Los Angeles Dodgers 482 14 87 189 13.4
5 Chicago Cubs 448 12 0 179 7.9
6 Washington Nationals 440 42 27 145 27.9
7 St Louis Cardinals 429 16 47 165 7.9
8 Seattle Mariners 428 3 23 179 7.3
9 Philadelphia Phillies 424 8 42 176 14.8

Meaning

1.) Washington Redskins(biggest stadium in the NFL, built in 1995)
2.) Manchester United (bigger stadium, much more recent work done to it)
3.) New England Patriots(new stadium)
4.) Dallas Cowboys
5.) Houston Texans(bigger,new stadium)
6.) New York Yankees(most recognizeable name in American sports, plus their own tv deal, which the NFL doesn't allow except for exceptions)
7.) Philadelphia Eagles(new stadium)
8.) Real Madrid(much bigger stadium with more recent renovation work)
9.) Denver Broncos(much newer, bigger stadium)
10.) Cleveland Browns(bigger, newer stadium)

Never underestimate the $$$ the NFL is throwing around. There is not any catching up to do. This is for a sport that is only nationally popular.
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Old March 13th, 2007, 02:47 AM   #97
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two more years to go....2009

(well three if you count 07)
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the new stadium should be awesome... wonder what the top secret thing is?
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Wow, didn't know it was this far along already. Should be an awesome stadium.
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