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Old June 8th, 2016, 12:15 AM   #3261
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Old June 8th, 2016, 09:53 AM   #3262
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Wish they left people go on the beaches ...
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Old June 8th, 2016, 12:13 PM   #3263
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If they opened this to the public, dubai would probably have 10 times more public beaches than it has right now!
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I've been on there many times, these "beaches" might look good from a distance, in reality they are a mix of very sharp sand, stones, bit of construction rubble, glass and cement, and all sorts of other nasty things. Dangerous to even walk on in bare feet. On Palm Jumeirah once they needed to make the beaches ready for use, they brought in a lot of finer beach sand and created the beaches, which need constant maintenance. It would cost millions just to get a fraction of this area ready for public use, which of course Nakheel will not spend for zero return. And you would anyway only be able to get there by boat.
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Old June 8th, 2016, 03:51 PM   #3265
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Old June 8th, 2016, 04:27 PM   #3266
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Old June 14th, 2016, 12:23 PM   #3267
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What about the further bit past the waterfront and towards AD? That last few Km should be untouched right?
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Old October 3rd, 2016, 10:10 AM   #3268
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Nakheel said about PJA in Gulf Business in September that:

“Palm Jebel Ali remains a long-term project because we have to keep in consideration the market situation. At the end of day it’s all about demand and supply. We have to be selective to grow”
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Old October 3rd, 2016, 10:18 AM   #3269
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Somehow I suspect the demand remains on Palm Jumeirah given Nakheel's projects there include the 52-storey Palm Tower hotel and residential complex, Nakheel Mall, The Pointe, The Boardwalk and Palm Boulevard. That was even before the announcement in September of the Palm 360 development (a new twin-tower hotel and residential project).
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Old October 3rd, 2016, 01:05 PM   #3270
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Somehow I suspect the demand remains on Palm Jumeirah given Nakheel's projects there include the 52-storey Palm Tower hotel and residential complex, Nakheel Mall, The Pointe, The Boardwalk and Palm Boulevard. That was even before the announcement in September of the Palm 360 development (a new twin-tower hotel and residential project).

you would have thought Nakheel would want to see the city expanding (especially with expo 2020, the airport and parks and resorts in the area) but no they keep cramming more and more into PJ.
After the crash i don't think they either have the money or want to run the risk of massive projects like PJA or Nakheel Tower and Harbour - such a shame
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Old October 3rd, 2016, 01:50 PM   #3271
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Simply putting it, Nakheel is a joke.
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Old December 3rd, 2016, 12:55 PM   #3272
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Does anyone know or can estimate how much money Nakheel has spend on reclamining the Palm Jebel Ali, do the canal works in the waterfront and such?
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Old January 8th, 2017, 02:32 AM   #3273
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First time poster in this section, random question, but cant they temporarily turn this into park land until they work what they are going to do with it?

Surely the money is there? Even if its just grass and trees.
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Old January 28th, 2017, 06:30 PM   #3274
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First time poster in this section, random question, but cant they temporarily turn this into park land until they work what they are going to do with it?

Surely the money is there? Even if its just grass and trees.
Sure, technically speaking that should be possible, but it won't happen for several reasons:
1. The Palm Jebel Ali is far away from the city; literally no one lives near it. If the city were going to create a new park they would surely do it close to where people live.
2. The developer of the Palm, Nakheel, just got out of a major debt. The last thing they will do is spending money on making a park that's not going to make money in any way.
3. The Palm Jebel Ali is huuuge. It would be very costly to maintain such a park.
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Old October 9th, 2018, 07:12 PM   #3275
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No immediate plans to restart Palm Jebel Ali in Dubai – Nakheel CEO

The mega Palm Jebel Ali project in Dubai remains a “long-term” development, the CEO of its developer Nakheel has confirmed.

“We are constantly reviewing the situation and at this point in time we don’t think [we will resume work on it], ” Sanjay Manchanda told Gulf Business on the sidelines of the Cityscape exhibition.
Work on the mega development, the second among Nakheel’s Palm projects, began in 2002, but construction was suspended after Dubai’s property market crash in 2009.

The development – ‘almost seven to eight times’ larger than the Palm Jumeirah – was due to feature six marinas, a floating bridge, theme parks and homes built on stilts above the water, among other projects.

“A project of that size can’t just be announced, because we have to be prepared ourselves and then so does the market,” said Manchanda.

“It’s a very strange thing – there’s a lot of commentary in the public domain about oversupply in the market and ‘why are the developers not stopping’ and if we were to launch such a mega project they would say,‘Oh my god, what have they done to the market’.

“If we don’t do it – there’s always ‘oh why are you not doing it,’ and if you do it then – ‘oh why are you doing it’. So there’s never going to be an easy answer,” he said.

“But the fact is that it is there and it will get energised at some point of time,” he added.
Manchanda also confirmed that many developers were planning to begin work at The World islands – another master community developed by Nakheel.

The World Islands project, located just off the coast of Dubai, comprises 300 man-made islands and adds over 232 kilometres of new beachfront to Dubai’s coastline.

Up to 70 per cent of the islands were sold when the project was originally launched but work stopped after developers were hit during the financial crisis.

Work has since restarted in parts of the development including on the $5bn Heart of Europe project, being developed by the Kleindienst Group.

The company plans to have two of the six islands and 40 floating seahorse villas completed by the end of this year. It also hopes to have the soft opening of the Portofino hotel on December 30, in time to host New Year celebrations.
“There are a number of people who have started to enquire with us about the World islands,” said Manchanda.

“Some of them have also given their development plans. I think it’s a very encouraging sign – and also it reposes the faith that was there on the World islands – it was just a question of time.

“Heart of Europe came in – so it’s like ‘if they can do it, we can also do it’. So it’s a good impetus to develop there,” he added.
http://gulfbusiness.com/no-immediate...i-nakheel-ceo/
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Old October 9th, 2018, 07:45 PM   #3276
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put very simply .. Nakheel is too small and weak nowadays to develop a master project!
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Old April 10th, 2019, 03:54 PM   #3277
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The good thing is that Palm Jumeirah is a great success. It looks like they focus now on The World.

I wonder if they prefer to develop Palm Jebel Ali or Palm Deira next.
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Old April 10th, 2019, 04:24 PM   #3278
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Good question. At a glance, at least, it looks like Palm Jebel Ali has the advantage of actually existing, but its location seems pretty awkward. Far away from everything, except the industrial area around the port, without any good transport connections. Palm Deira is a half-eroded mess, but it's a half-eroded mess just a stone's throw from the old town and the outlet of Dubai Creek. It has the Deira Islands plan going on, though, so any plans to resurrect the palm would have to decommission those plans first.

I don't see any of the palms going anywhere in the immediate future, but in a decade or two, who knows?
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Old June 12th, 2019, 07:05 PM   #3279
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Land sales are being restarted in the area with a few large plots already sold in 2019
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