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Old October 10th, 2019, 11:46 AM   #24381
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No surprise with the idea of Caledonian Ave Xing closing. Friends in the area mean that I'm familiar with it. Even outside peak periods now it gives you plenty of time to relax, focus and search for inner peace.
That may be part of the reason that the Third and Seventh Ave bridges were replaced just a few years back...
An improvement to the bridge just north of Grand Prom (55) would be nice, but that could require a project in the same order of cost as the current Bayswater Station / King William St Xing project.
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Old October 10th, 2019, 12:41 PM   #24382
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Should at least look at a ped / cycle bridge along that stretch though.

Going to make a Maccas run (or quick walk to Coles Maylands) from those new apartments on Railway Parade a right ballache!
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Old October 10th, 2019, 03:18 PM   #24383
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A pedestrian / cycle bridge makes sense but I can't see it happening.


I would expect an update of the Route 55 Bridge similar to the 3rd avenue bridge with an extra South bound lane to Whatley Crescent with traffic lights for traffic control.
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Old October 10th, 2019, 05:30 PM   #24384
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Lazy ****s. A shit outcome for Maylands.
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Old October 10th, 2019, 05:40 PM   #24385
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aususer007, your suggestion of something along the lines of the Third Ave bridge at the end of Grand Prom sounds good to me, but the current bridge (Main Roads calls it the Hotham St Bridge 0906A) was as far as I can tell built as recently as the early nineties. Replacing one that was at the end of Hotham St. The more recent Third and Seventh Ave bridge rebuilds replaced much older structures. A future rebuild could go hand in hand with a major Meltham Station upgrade. But it isn't so long since Meltham got its little DDA compliance upgrade. There are probably concept plans in an archive at PTA or Main Roads, but I doubt it would happen any time soon.
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Old October 11th, 2019, 04:08 AM   #24386
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An alternative if they could do it would be to subterrain Caledonian Avenue under the railway line alas the mt Lawley subway if they have room on the railway avenue side for ramps etc..This would allow for through traffic with no turning movements onto Whatley BUT they could use the 7th avenue bridge for that if necessary. The Guildford Road intersection at Maccas would need to be upgraded as well .
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Old October 11th, 2019, 07:01 AM   #24387
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How about a diagonal bridge across the railway from Caledonian Ave over to 10th Ave? That would give them a lot more length and maybe allow them to get the height needed while creating a better through connection at the same time.
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Old October 11th, 2019, 09:04 AM   #24388
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Mainroads website updated for Kwinana Freeway Southbound On-ramp from Manning Road Project.

https://project.mainroads.wa.gov.au/...s/default.aspx

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https://project.mainroads.wa.gov.au/...rch%202019.pdf

Final design plan

https://project.mainroads.wa.gov.au/...%202019%5D.pdf
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Old October 11th, 2019, 01:21 PM   #24389
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The first thing that needs doing if they're closing the Caledonian crossing is to make the Meltham bridge so you can turn right on East Parade.
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Old October 11th, 2019, 01:47 PM   #24390
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You can always try building another Horseshoe Bridge.
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Old October 12th, 2019, 02:15 PM   #24391
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The first thing that needs doing if they're closing the Caledonian crossing is to make the Meltham bridge so you can turn right on East Parade.
You must be referring to Whatley Crescent not East Parade and that would be traffic chaos at the bridge if they allowed that movement. Its already backed up to the lights with the left only movement at the peak times.Its not wide enough anyway
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Old October 12th, 2019, 02:22 PM   #24392
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Yeah sorry Whatley Crescent. There is room for two lanes there, one for turning left and one to turn right, and they would need lights like the Third Ave bridge.
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Old October 12th, 2019, 03:02 PM   #24393
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Yeah sorry Whatley Crescent. There is room for two lanes there, one for turning left and one to turn right, and they would need lights like the Third Ave bridge.
No, not quite enough room. It would require bridge widening - at the very least an extra five metres to provide a new lane either direction and lighting with pedestrians using the Meltham station overpass OR a new turning lane in one direction (potentially southbound) with an upgraded path and lighting. The current bridge is roughly 13-14 metres wide compared to the three-lane + path Third Avenue bridge at 18-19 metres. With some abutment modifications and track slewing, it should also be possible to add in a roundabout the size of the Third Ave/Railway Pde roundabout at the Whatley Cres end.

If we were to completely rebuild that connection, I think it likely that Grand Prom would have a new bridge going straight over Meltham Station and Railway Pde connecting onto Whatley Crescent. The existing pedestrian bridge for Meltham Stn would be removed and access provided via the new bridge. The existing road bridge could be retained and made Left-in/out access for residential connection purposes. This is only complete speculation and not an actual plan.
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Old October 12th, 2019, 03:34 PM   #24394
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Two cars fit though!
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I’m not sure if this counts as infrastructure, but tomorrow they are holding a launch for the master plan for the qeii medical centre. I’m will try and take some pics to post! 🙂
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Iím not sure if this counts as infrastructure, but tomorrow they are holding a launch for the master plan for the qeii medical centre. Iím will try and take some pics to post! 🙂
Looking forward to seeing the pics. Charlies is in need of a major upgrade, and would be interesting to see where they're going to build the replacement for King Eddy's. Also might include room for expansion of the kids hospital?
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Oh, I was wondering what 'qeii' was.
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Looking forward to seeing the pics. Charlies is in need of a major upgrade, and would be interesting to see where they're going to build the replacement for King Eddy's. Also might include room for expansion of the kids hospital?
Hopefully it includes a light rail line.
Accessing the SCGH carpark at 745 am takes up to 20 minutes.
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would be interesting to see where they're going to build the replacement for King Eddy's.
I was told they've already planned for it to go between the main hospital (G Block) and OCHWA which is currently occupied by labs, see if that's true or not though...
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Armadale Road traffic switch happened over the previous weekend, traffic running to the south of the new bridge on the future on/off ramps. Another switch this weekend for Ghostgum Avenue to Warton Road, opening up both carriageways for traffic.

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