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Old December 10th, 2011, 04:02 AM   #21
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Not pulling this tread out to OT but I always thought Varhadi was a Marathi dialect. How ignorant and idiotic I am
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My question is OT but is Sharad Pawar from Vidharba? And is the NCP strong in Vidharba?
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No Sharad Pawar is NOT from Vidarbha.. he is from Baramati town in Pune district. and he is said to be the main cause behind pulling investments out of Nagpur and Vidarbha to western maharashtra, especially to pune.. also no strong presence of NCP in Vidarbha.
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Old December 16th, 2011, 10:27 AM   #24
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@grapewine, Prodigist's question was sarcastic..

First thing we will fight about after having separate state is what should be official language...

the biggest mistake Nehru and Co did was dividing states on linguistic basis and this is main cause of divide in today's Indian society. Tamil Vs Marathi Vs Hindi vs Telgu and so on..
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What Nehru did was a stroke of genius. You can be anybody, you can identify with any ethnic group and you can still be Indian. In Lanka they tried one language policy and that was the starting point of the trouble. In Pakistan Jinnah tried to impose urdu and that didn't work out for balochis and bengalis etc.

One language many nations; many language, one nation.

ps: I'm just stating what I know/ have concluded. I may be wrong. I DON'T want to start a troll-war but at the same time, I want to put down my point of view as politely as possible.
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Old December 17th, 2011, 08:12 AM   #26
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As per my view, Vidarbha's future will be lighten onlt if it is separated out from MAHARASHTRA. Because politician's here have never favoured development in VIdarbha region. When Ashok Chavan was CM that time we had never seen even 1% progress in the development of MIHAN. Yes, I am totally agree that current CM Prithviraj Chauhan has taken initiative to look after the progress of MIHAN as well as other pending issues of Vidarbha.
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Old December 17th, 2011, 08:16 AM   #27
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See, the very best example of how Vidarbha MLAs behave (left side post):
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Smaller States make for good governance

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Soon after independence, many of our political leaders strongly favoured the creation of smaller States. Yet, some States have unfortunately retained their huge size

If only the interests of the people were given precedence over a political party’s advantage, there would have been no conflicts of the kind that we see like that for a separate Telangana State or a separate Vidarbha State. The latest controversy is yet to hot up: Chief Minister Mayawati’s proposal to subdivide Uttar Pradesh. This has all the potential to erupt into a major political firework some day. It is already alleged that Ms Mayawati’s objective is to confuse the use of the idea to win the forthcoming Assembly election. A counter-suggestion is that the parties opposing her are yet to comprehend the electoral ramification of the subdivision. The Samajwadi Party is the only party that has openly opposed the plan to divide the State.

In the States Reorganisation Commission Report, 1955, Sardar KM Panikkar had seriously differed with Justice Fazal Ali and Pandit Hriday Nath Kunzru over Uttar Pradesh remaining a single State. All the three members conceded that “a fair balance between its constituent units is an essential condition for the working of a federal union; it has further been argued that the present commanding position of Uttar Pradesh, with its representation in both the Houses of Parliament broadly reflecting its numerical strength, violates this important principle”. In a note of dissent, Panikkar proposed that a separate State of Agra, comprising an area of 51,346 square miles, should be created. The suggested State was to include five districts that now form part of Madhya Pradesh. They were Datia, Bhind, Morena, Gwalior and Shivpuri.

Unfortunately, the other two members were both friends of Jawaharlal Nehru. They wanted Uttar Pradesh to remain in tact so that Nehru’s political base would remain large enough and the State would have the advantage to elect the Prime Minister again and again. Since Independence, seven out of 11 Prime Ministers have been from Uttar Pradesh for 45 out of 64 years. Even today, it is widely acknowledged that the path to power in Delhi is via Lucknow. Bihar was left large so that the preference for large States would be consistent. In any case, its political winds were then believed to emanate from Uttar Pradesh. But, soon after independence, Jaipal Singh had already given a call for a separate Jharkhand State.

The SRC had recommended that the Telangana region be a separate State, to be called the Hyderabad State. But the Union Government overruled the proposal and combined all the Telugu- speaking districts into Andhra Pradesh. The policy of large States was carried to an absurd extreme in Bombay, wherein all Marathi-speaking as well as Gujarati-speaking districts were merged together. Saurashtra was then a separate ‘B’ State, and yet it was merged with Bombay. Vidarbha was traditionally Central Provinces Berar, with Nagpur as its capital. Notwithstanding that, it was plucked out and made a part of what was then Bombay.

According to late Ashok Mehta, once a Socialist leader and much later a Minister in the Indira Gandhi Cabinet, Bombay was made into a jumbo State to please Morarji Desai who valued a large base to improve his chances to be Prime Minister some time in the future. But the bilingual State broke into two: Maharashtra and Gujarat, on May 1, 1960 — less than five years after the SRC report was circulated.

An impression was created in the late 1950s, and thereafter, that subdivision of States was reminiscent of national disintegration. In the wake of partition, people tended to believe in such an implication. The truth should be the opposite. The larger and stronger a State the better placed it could possibly be to arm-twist the Union or even threaten to secede. The smaller a State, the weaker it would be in this context. Thus, a subdivision is desirable from the viewpoint of India’s integrity. It need not be discouraged out of fear of national disintegration. If anything, the subdivision of Sta-tes should strengthen the Union Government by default without diluting the federal character of the country.

Until 1960, Gujarat was a backyard of Bombay; today it is a leading economy. So have Haryana and Himachal Pradesh done better after separating from Punjab. Chhattisgarh and Jharkhand are certainly no worse off after their separation from Madhya Pradesh and Bihar respectively.

This discussion can extend to Pakistan. The 1956 Constitution combined Punjab, Sind, Balochistan and NWFP into one jumbo Province of West Pakistan in order to counter-balance against the greater population of the eastern wing. Bangladesh seceded in 1971. Instead of creating the western wing into a mega-Province, if East Pakistan had been subdivided into, say, four Provinces, it would have been difficult for Sheikh Mujibur Rahman to get united support. The four smaller Provinces might have had differences among them and, possibly, Bangladesh could have still been a part of Pakistan. More so, if Bengali had been made the second national language of Pakistan along with Urdu.

Economic development is difficult in an unwieldy State. It is simpler to reach out to every nook and corner of a smaller State. This is one of the reasons for almost every State — whether Gujarat, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Chhattisgarh — to have prospered more since the division. That apart, the cause of federal democracy is much better served in a smaller State. Today, if a resident of Vidarbaha or Marathawada needs to visit the capital of his State, he has to travel all the way to Mumbai.

In the wake of the SRC report, BR Ambedkar, in his book Thoughts on Linguistic States, had suggested that Uttar Pradesh should be divided into three States. His proposed bifurcation of Bihar and Madhya Pradesh was implemented in 2000. Way back in 1972, when Kamalapati Tripathi was Chief Minister, a number of MLAs had moved a resolution for the creation of three new States out of Uttar Pradesh. The names proposed were Brij Pradesh, Awadh Pradesh and Purbi Pradesh. The Union Government under Mrs Indira Gandhi did not approve of the idea.
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Since Maharashtra Government isn't doing anything for the plight of farmers here , I hope more such initiatives come up from agriculturally-rich regions of India.
At least, they help spread awareness among Indians.


Vid farmers to get a helping hand from Ludhiana

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NAGPUR: We hear and speak about the wonders of the Internet all the time, about how it brings people together, fuses the physical distance between them. In one such example, the Internet proved to connect two different worlds - one where debt-ridden farmers living in hellish conditions were committing suicides and the another where farmers were considerably well off, and even owned costly mobile phones and cars.

Munish Dadhwal, a maths teacher, Pritpal Singh, a physics teacher and Jatinder Kumar, a civil engineering student, all from Ludhiana, Punjab visited the families of debt-ridden farmers who had committed suicides in the villages of Yavatmal district to take stock of the agrarian crisis there.

Their journey began when Dadhwal read about the plight of farmers in Vidarbha on some online portals. He spoke to his colleagues and friends and soon the trio reached Yavatmal.

"Once we started researching this topic we began to see the horror behind the whole issue. We came in contact with Kishore Tiwari and when he suggested that we see the sufferings of the farmers first hand, we made up our minds to coming here," said Pritpal Singh.

Their field of study doesn't come near subject of agrarian crisis. When this was pointed out to them they said that they were humans. And as humans they were moved by the troubles the farmers of Vidarbha faced and wanted to do something.

They say that trip was an eye opener. "There is a difference between listening and reading about these issues and actually seeing them. Coming from good families where we are served a host of food items, its disturbing to see these farmers struggling for three square meals a day," said Jatinder Kumar.

"The farmers over Punjab are considerably much better off. And we think the main reason is education," says Singh. The trio says that it's a vicious cycle here. "The farmers aren't educated, they don't know how to manage their resources and fall into debt which they fail to return and commit suicide. Their children have to leave school and work leaving them uneducated and the cycle continues," added Singh.

They now plan to spread awareness among people of Punjab about Vidarbha issue. "We have thought about some steps and once we get back to Ludhiana we will plan it. Firstly, we are going to organize ourselves into Friends of Vidarbha Society. Then we are looking into possibilities of networking between wealthy and experienced farmers of Punjab and needy farmers of Vidarbha. We are also looking into how we can provide for educational opportunities for farmers kids," said Dadhwal who thinks that issue is not being highlighted enough.

The group will be making a documentary of their visit to help the cause. Tiwari, who was working for this for a long time and who helped the group organize the visit, said that such visits are good. "More than anything else, such initiatives boost morale of people like us that someone out there is listening and cares," he said.
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Not only air traffic, i also heard that lot of private bus operators like Neeta who have mostly western maharashtra specific operations have started buses on Pune-Nagpur route. Sadly MSRDC only moved after the tragic accident happened near Buldhana.They have started Pune-Nagpur shivneri bus service. That means there are lot of people which are travelling on these routes.

Unfortunately the ministers and babus in mantralaya are pro western maharashtra and we have seen lot of projects like health university, National Law college being moved out of Vidarbha.. Only the power of money will compel these to act in favour of vidarbha....
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What can be done here? If Vidarbha cannot separate from Maharashtra whats the solution for such situations?

Separate Vidarbha appears to be a distance dream now.
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Extensive case study on 'Farmer Suicides in India'

http://sanhati.com/excerpted/4504/

Posting just for record. will later add more details here from the above link...
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Old February 9th, 2012, 11:35 AM   #39
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