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Old March 30th, 2010, 10:35 AM   #41
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That new intersection looks insane!

Do we have some before and after pics?
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Old March 30th, 2010, 02:19 PM   #43
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video of new William Nicol intersection...

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Old April 11th, 2010, 07:24 PM   #45
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This is one of the most impressive projects ive seen in SA. Pity it gets so little attention from the forumers.
The amount of machinery and people working is simply astonishing.
















Spoke to a guy from SANRAL. The whole network will have 4/5 lanes in each direction, with a few stretches of 6 lanes in some parts.
The best part of all is that if necessary, theres enough space to add a extra lane or 2 in each side, for the network was designed to accommadate these needs.
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Old April 11th, 2010, 08:50 PM   #46
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Read that a bitumen shortage is going to delay this project for a few months. World Cup readiness is questionable now
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Old April 11th, 2010, 09:45 PM   #47
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Thanks for taking those pics goliath. Amazing! About time there was some updates on this...
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Old April 12th, 2010, 02:29 PM   #49
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Thanks for the pics!!! Looks great.

Are they still going to charge that ridiculous amount of 50c/km on all Gauteng freeways?
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Old April 13th, 2010, 11:08 PM   #50
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Thanks for the pics!!! Looks great.

Are they still going to charge that ridiculous amount of 50c/km on all Gauteng freeways?
Unfortunately yes. Although we need to understand that a funding model must be found for our infrastructure. Either pay a toll or pay a lot more for fuel. In Holland or England you have no Toll roads but fuel is costing double that of South Africa. In the US cheaper fuel, but lots of toll roads....

I drove through the Gosforth Toll plaza on the N17 today and saw the construction of the new automated toll collection station nearly completed. I took a photo while driving past and will post soon. We will soon see more than 30 of these structures on all parts of the Gauteng network.
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Old April 13th, 2010, 11:26 PM   #51
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New automated toll booth at Gosforth

Below is a picture of the new toll plaza being constructed at Gosforth that will replace the current cash toll plaza. This same design is already being built on other parts of the network and evidence can be seen on N1 next to Soweto, N12 between R59 and Camaro Road, N1 between R21 and Botha Avenue. A total of 30(?) or more will be built where tags in cars and number plates will be read like the congestion zone in London.



The old toll plaza that will be demolished can be seen on the rear view mirror.
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Old April 14th, 2010, 09:35 AM   #52
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Unfortunately yes. Although we need to understand that a funding model must be found for our infrastructure. Either pay a toll or pay a lot more for fuel. In Holland or England you have no Toll roads but fuel is costing double that of South Africa. In the US cheaper fuel, but lots of toll roads....

I drove through the Gosforth Toll plaza on the N17 today and saw the construction of the new automated toll collection station nearly completed. I took a photo while driving past and will post soon. We will soon see more than 30 of these structures on all parts of the Gauteng network.
The USA does have toll roads, but never more than 30% of a cities' total freeway network. Bottom line is, government is admitting, they're NOT using fuel levies for what it was intended, roads! The only city in the USA that has over 70% of their freeway network tolled is Orlando, FL. Their reason for doing this, is they say for a city of 1.9million residents, with over 5million visitors a year, the local populous cannot pay for all the freeways needed, and thus the tourists must also be responsible.

Gauteng plans to toll almost the entire network eventually... I find that a little greedy and a bit "negligent" on the part of the national government's public works and transport responsibilities. Orlando's network, in a developed nation, with higher construction costs, higher salaries, yet lower fuel costs, are charging on average ZAR0.40 per km, or US$0.088 per mile.

With the tolling of KSIA offramps, the plans to toll the N1 and N2 outside Cape Town (unilaterally and with extreme WC Government opposition) and this. I do believe SANRAL and government are seriously neglecting their responsibilities and being a tad greedy. When SANRAL face issues, they only ever weigh up one funding model... selling off the network to private concessionaires.

I think SANRAL needs to come clean and a policy must be instituted. Either, decrease fuel levies considerably and say all nationalised roads will become toll roads. Or fix the funding models, keep fuel prices higher or increase the levy a bit more and say all nationalised roads are free-to-drive highways. Right now, they're trying to butter their bread on both sides with tax-payers cash.
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Old April 14th, 2010, 12:29 PM   #53
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I think SANRAL needs to come clean and a policy must be instituted. Either, decrease fuel levies considerably and say all nationalised roads will become toll roads. Or fix the funding models, keep fuel prices higher or increase the levy a bit more and say all nationalised roads are free-to-drive highways. Right now, they're trying to butter their bread on both sides with tax-payers cash.
The issue is we're being tolled on the "improvements". Does this mean that if I don't drive on the 1x new lane (my taxes and parents' taxes paid for the other 2 or 3 lanes) that I won't be tolled? Well, no, and herein lies the problem. SANRAL hasn't really stated much benefit for this project besides being able to toll Gauteng's freeway network by adding some long overdue bridges and a new lane. All this money could make our network safer and be a significant crime fighting force.

A car without a number place (or with a false number plate by using simple technology - a car registered as RED on eNATIS can't be blue e.g., duplicate plates picked up on either side of the network e.g. or no plates, or stolen. A traffic patrol (dedicated to freeways) could quickly despatch vehicles to track down these flagged vehicles.

Basically, we're paying 50c/km for a not so intelligent freeway network, which is a great pity. Also, we're paying for the fact that for 20/30 years our freeways weren't upgraded much, meaning all that budget is effectively "lost" and now we have to somehow come up with 20/30 years worth of budget in 2 or 3 years. Of course government can't afford that in the current fiscus.

i.e. we're being taxed for pretty bad planning.
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Old April 14th, 2010, 12:56 PM   #54
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i.e. we're being taxed for pretty bad planning.
Which goes the same for ESKOM and their insane increases. Problem is, we normal S.Africans pay for government incompetence (whether it be on this or previous dispensation, both were kinda "duh" in their own ways). I just feekin' want a democratic government that WORKS! But no... party political affiliation over skills and competence.

R0.50/km is just WAY overpriced, and once again, milking the cash-cow that is the SA middle-class. Judging by American toll roads, their hectic build costs and user spending-power, we should not be paying much more than R0.25/km. Plus their toll roads got built with ZERO initial government capital in most cases.
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Old April 21st, 2010, 04:34 PM   #55
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A new bridge over the N1 in pretoria between Lynnwood and Atterbury off-ramps. It is for a pipe accross the freeway. The old bridge was too narrow to accomodate the new extra lanes, so this very impressive metal bridge was the awnser.

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Old April 28th, 2010, 03:16 PM   #56
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Gauteng’s multi-billion rand toll-road income to be ring-fenced, says Sanral

By: Irma Venter
28th April 2010

The revenue received from the tolling of 185 km of Gauteng freeways will be ring-fenced, says South African National Roads Agency Limited (Sanral) Gauteng Freeway Improvement Project (GFIP) leader Alex van Niekerk.

“The money will be used for the repayment of the debt incurred to complete the GFIP, and for maintaining and operating the upgraded road network,” says Van Niekerk.

He adds that the estimated 50c/km-plus toll-fee, as was indicated in 2007, will also be used to pay for the value-added services to become available on the Gauteng road network once tolling kicks in next year April, such as the provision of tow-trucks, improved lighting, as well as standby medical assistance.

The system also has to finance the roll-out of further phases of the GFIP, which Sanral will initiate in 2013.

The current R20-billion freeway project aims to upgrade and expand the road network through, for example, the addition of new lanes on most of Gauteng’s existing freeways.

Van Niekerk can not indicate at this stage what revenue the agency is expecting from the toll system.

He says Sanral is still optimising its discount model – discount will be offered to frequent users, for example – and that this model can still affect the projected income.

Kapsch, the Austrian-based company which won the contract to implement and operate the Gauteng tolling system, along with its Cape-based partner, Traffic Management Technologies (TMT), has indicated that it expects receiving remuneration of R4,56-billion for the period of eight years during which it is to manage and maintain the electronic tolling system, as well as for the five-year period during which it is to collect toll fees on behalf of Sanral. However, this figure will be dependent on the number of toll road users, and to what degree motorists will change their driving behaviour to counter toll fees.

Van Niekerk says that the roads agency expects this R4,56-billion “to be less than 20% of the total revenue Sanral will earn over eight years”.

2 000 NEW JOBS ON THE CARDS

Electronic Toll Collection (ETC) – the company owned jointly by Kapsch (65%) and TMT (35%) – was awarded the contract, following a tender process, to roll-out and manage GFIP’s toll system in October last year.

ETC CEO Salahdin Yacoubi says the company, as a turnkey service provider, is in the process of putting everything in place for the April deadline, including an open-road tolling back office, a transaction clearing house and a violation processing centre.

The contract to procure and integrate all of these systems is valued at R1,3-billion.

The system will not feature any toll-gates, but overhead equipment fixed on gantries that will identify vehicles using their licence plates and transponders fixed to the front windows.

Gantry construction is to start in the next three to four months.

Yacoubi says ETC’s work has two legs.

“We will manage the technology and maintain the system for a period of eight years. We are also responsible for revenue collection for five years, with the option for this to be extended to six years.”

Yacoubi expects one-million to 1,5-million vehicles to make use of the Gauteng freeway toll system.

He notes that it is important for the GFIP system to be integrated into the country’s bigger toll network.

“We have to make sure motorists can also use the GFIP’s e-tag, or transponder, on the toll road down to Durban, for example.”

Yacoubi says ETC will employ around 2 000 people, with 600 to 700 people of these to work at a dedicated call centre.

Trucks will pay more than cars to use the freeway, and cars more than motorcycles, similar to the scenario on other toll roads.

HOW IT WORKS

Yacoubi says open-road tolling – where there are no toll plazas – is only 15 years old, as its implementation awaited the development of the necessary enabling technologies.

Singapore, Canada, Chile and Australia and Chile have open-road urban toll systems.

Yacoubi says the first step for all users of the Gauteng freeway system is to visit registration points from the end of the year, where they can then register, pay a deposit and receive a transponder to be fixed to the inside of the front window of their car.

“There points will be easily accessible. They will be at shopping malls and petrol stations, for example. We will go to the people, and not wait for them to come to us,” notes Yacoubi.

People can also register online.

Motorists will have to top up the funds on their pre-paid transponder account as soon as it starts to run low.

“They will be able to use the website, the call-centre or dedicated kiosks to check their balance and pay money into their account.

“They can also sign set debit orders to their toll accounts.”

TOLL EVASION

Yacoubi says toll evasion will either happen because people do not know they have to pay toll – for example, visitors from outside the province – or because they will aim to deliberately avoid payment.

“We believe we can reduce toll evasion to a manageable level, and then keep on reducing this figure.”

Evasion in the Chilean urban tolling system has, over time, dropped from 4% to 5%, to the current 2%.

Yacoubi says the system allows for payment before use, but if this does not happen a motorist will be send a bill.


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Old May 1st, 2010, 04:23 AM   #57
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Are the new transponders going to be different from the existing e-tag transponders offered by Bakwena?
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I received a reply from Bakwena today. They say that the system will be fully interoperable. So this means that existing E-tag users would not be required to get new transponders.
If they can only get this system throughout the N1 north to Polokwane, then Eater weekends will be much smoother.
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