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Old April 8th, 2019, 10:31 PM   #2341
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La construction d’un centre de conférence et d’un immeuble de logement de 32 étages en face du ministère des Affaires étrangères était le projet initial de l’entreprise Rakeen. Un groupe mafieux libano-congolais a fait opposition à ce projet en prétendant que le terrain de construction lui appartenait. D’où la suspension des travaux et la traduction de l’affaire en justice. Rakeen avait exhorté le président Kabila d’intervenir pour dénouer la situation, mais ce dernier, comme à l’accoutumé quand il s’agit de l’intérêt du Congo, a gardé le silence.
Maintenant, te réfères-tu au projet initial ou à la reprise des travaux suite à une décision judiciaire ou grâce à l’intervention du président Félix ?
Quant au projet Gare centrale, quelle est l’identité de ces investisseurs arabes qui l’auraient repris, est-ce une compagnie ou des simples individus ?
Pius, encore une fois merci de nous tenir informes sur les progres de la modernisation de Kin, la ville qui nous tient a coeur de par son histoire et nos histoires personnelles.
Notre grand espoir est de voir la RDC se moderniser a une vitesse eclaire vu les richesses dont elle regorge. Allez voir la modernisation fulgurante de Kigali, une ville quasiment construite sur fonds des coltan, diamant et or congolais par Kagame.
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Allez voir la modernisation fulgurante de Kigali, une ville quasiment construite sur fonds des coltan, diamant et or congolais par Kagame.
Besides Congolese riches, Kigali has been rebuilding "progressively" over years ( not a 5 year mandate) using many other factors such as:

-World bank assistance in drawing up municipal laws on land ownership, land title deliveries
-Roads building for FREE by Chinese to expand Kigali road network as DONATIONS to the Rwandan government as part of China-Rwanda cooperation
-Local initiatives in ecology
-Open foreign and local investment policy which creates demand for residential and office construction

None of these are impossible to apply for Kinshasa but it will just take time and coherence past several administrations at central and provincial level
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Old April 9th, 2019, 10:39 PM   #2343
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Besides Congolese riches, Kigali has been rebuilding "progressively" over years ( not a 5 year mandate) using many other factors such as:

-World bank assistance in drawing up municipal laws on land ownership, land title deliveries
-Roads building for FREE by Chinese to expand Kigali road network as DONATIONS to the Rwandan government as part of China-Rwanda cooperation
-Local initiatives in ecology
-Open foreign and local investment policy which creates demand for residential and office construction

None of these are impossible to apply for Kinshasa but it will just take time and coherence past several administrations at central and provincial level
The only difference between the DRC and Rwanda when it comes to urban planning is that Rwandan authorities are more responsible, more proactive, more patriot and less corrupt than their Congolese counterparts.
There exist a legal framework (Plan particulier d’aménagement) and several plans for the modernization of Kinshasa (the latest being the study commissioned by Kimbuta to Surbana International, a Singaporean company that planned Kigali’s rejuvenation), but none of those are being implemented. On the contrary, roads that were upgraded 7 years ago are already in a state of decay due to lack of maintenance. Not a single dollar is being spent to clean the city, which makes it look like a giant landfill. As the saying goes, you make your bed so you must lie in it...
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The only difference between the DRC and Rwanda when it comes to urban planning is that Rwandan authorities are more responsible, more proactive, more patriot and less corrupt than their Congolese counterparts.
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I may also add Rwandans tend to seek help where they are deficient while Congolese refuse....so called help as dependency...Congolese would say " Apres 50 ans d'independence, blah blah blah....

A little modernization started in Gombe in 2009-2010. What is needed is move progressively in other communes while maintaining Gombe...


They can introduce homeowners associations in Gombe commune to handle "commune" maintenance since it will be rich homeowners living there......Those homeowners have interested to keep high values for their properties by investing in commune maintenance..


Small step that does not take too much public funds
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Besides Congolese riches, Kigali has been rebuilding "progressively" over years ( not a 5 year mandate) using many other factors such as:

-World bank assistance in drawing up municipal laws on land ownership, land title deliveries
-Roads building for FREE by Chinese to expand Kigali road network as DONATIONS to the Rwandan government as part of China-Rwanda cooperation
-Local initiatives in ecology
-Open foreign and local investment policy which creates demand for residential and office construction

None of these are impossible to apply for Kinshasa but it will just take time and coherence past several administrations at central and provincial level
Kagame, one of the most ruthless and bloody African dictators, a criminal who tracks his foes beyond Rwanda's borders can be commended for being a well organized and disciplined tyrant. Hated by Congolese and Rwandan Hutus, only his fellow Tutsi will be appreciative of his legacy.
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Kagame, one of the most ruthless and bloody African dictators, a criminal who tracks his foes beyond Rwanda's borders can be commended for being a well organized and disciplined tyrant. Hated by Congolese and Rwandan Hutus, only his fellow Tutsi will be appreciative of his legacy.

Le development de Kigali est sur une petite surface qui ne depassent pas plus de 3 miles square. Ce ne pas impressionant surtout quand la population reste toujours pauvre.

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Le development de Kigali est sur une petite surface qui ne depassent pas plus de 3 miles square. Ce ne pas impressionant surtout quand la population reste toujours pauvre.

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Le problème n’est pas la superficie de la ville mais la volonté de bien faire. Avec la mentalité des autorités congolaises, Kinshasa serait aussi sale, dégradée et désorganisée que si elle n’avait qu’un dixième de sa superficie actuelle. A quoi ressemblent les routes et places publiques modernisées il y a à peine sept ans?
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Kagame, one of the most ruthless and bloody African dictators, a criminal who tracks his foes beyond Rwanda's borders can be commended for being a well organized and disciplined tyrant. Hated by Congolese and Rwandan Hutus, only his fellow Tutsi will be appreciative of his legacy.
Rwandan Hutus might hate Kagame but they do not hate Kigali, even though a tyrant was instrumental in developing it. Kagame will pass but a modern Kigali will stay and I do not think that Hutus will destroy it to erase Kagame’s legacy...
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Rwandan Hutus might hate Kagame but they do not hate Kigali, even though a tyrant was instrumental in developing it. Kagame will pass but a modern Kigali will stay and I do not think that Hutus will destroy it to erase Kagame’s legacy...
I couldn't agree more! Roads, skyscrapers, schools, universities, hospitals...…..are an enduring legacy. Abidjan's towers and Yamoussoukro's cathedral in Ivory Coast continue to emphatically voice Houphouet Boigny's nationalism and signature of modernization long after his death.
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I couldn't agree more! Roads, skyscrapers, schools, universities, hospitals...…..are an enduring legacy. Abidjan's towers and Yamoussoukro's cathedral in Ivory Coast continue to emphatically voice Houphouet Boigny's nationalism and signature of modernization long after his death.
The majority of Kigali's skyscrapers are foreign-owned, as result of regional (Kenyan for example) and foreign investments.


Thus for Kin, just by opening up to foreign investment, that alone will help build at least 10 tall skyscrapers...
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L'etat a repris la consession du Rakeem devant le Ministere des affaire etrangere. C'est une companie turque qui vas y'construire le centre de conference... Ils sont on niveaux de la conception.

Au gare centrale , Fatshi a faciliter l'obtention des garanties judiciaire voulut par l'investisseur... qui a leur tour ont promis et signe le contract d'achever tout avent la reunion de L'UA.

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Conaissez-vous la date a laquelle le projet Gare Centrale reprend? J'espere que la nouvelle administration ne sera pas aussi naive que la precedente. Elle doit veiller a ce que le contrat signe est honore en fonction du temps requis. Lorsqu'on a affaire a des companies du tiers monde la vigilance doit etre accrue sinon on accouche d'une souris un peu comme avec Rakeen.
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Mr Mulopwe,

Conaissez-vous la date a laquelle le projet Gare Centrale reprend? J'espere que la nouvelle administration ne sera pas aussi naive que la precedente. Elle doit veiller a ce que le contrat signe est honore en fonction du temps requis. Lorsqu'on a affaire a des companies du tiers monde la vigilance doit etre accrue sinon on accouche d'une souris un peu comme avec Rakeen.
L’État ne peut pas imposer un délai d’exécution à un projet immobilier privé dès lors que la mise en valeur de la concession est déjà réalisée. C’est l’investisseur qui décide du rythme des travaux en fonction de ses moyens. Par contre, l’État doit garantir la sécurité juridique et judiciaire des investissements ; ce qui n’est toujours pas le cas en RDC .
En ce qui concerne le projet Gare centrale, il faudrait attendre la reprise des travaux pour être fixé sur la véracité des intentions des uns et des autres. Depuis la suspension des travaux il y a huit ans, nous en sommes réduit à des conjectures et spéculations, d’autant plus l’État congolais, habitué à fonctionner comme une structure mafieuse, ne diffuse officiellement aucune information quant à ses arrangements avec les investisseurs.
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Comme le site agro-industriel de Bukanga Lonzo, le Marché international de Kinshasa, l’aérogare de Ndjili, l’autoroute de l’aéroport, la Place de la reconstruction et tant d’autres, ce projet restera lettre morte car le Congo a un État théorique; son action sur le terrain du développement est nulle. A moins que Félix réforme la kabilie, ce qui est plus qu’improbable...
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Mr Mulopwe,

Conaissez-vous la date a laquelle le projet Gare Centrale reprend? J'espere que la nouvelle administration ne sera pas aussi naive que la precedente. Elle doit veiller a ce que le contrat signe est honore en fonction du temps requis. Lorsqu'on a affaire a des companies du tiers monde la vigilance doit etre accrue sinon on accouche d'une souris un peu comme avec Rakeen.
L'un d'Ambassadeur itinerant etait au moyens orient la semaine passee pour delivrer les garanties judiciaires. Quand a la date precise du debut des travaux , suis pas au courant. Ce qui est certain , Fatshi et son equipe insistent a ce que le tour soit pret avant la tenue de la conference de L'UA end 2021.

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L'un d'Ambassadeur itinerant etait au moyens orient la semaine passee pour delivrer les garanties judiciaires. Quand a la date precise du debut des travaux , suis pas au courant. Ce qui est certain , Fatshi et son equipe insistent a ce que le tour soit pret avant la tenue de la conference de L'UA end 2021.

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Merci Molopwe,

Le peuple devrait etre regulierement etre informe officiellement des activites gouvernementales pour eviter le culte de "secret" qui a toujours caracterise le gouvernement congolais donnant libre cours a la radio trottoire.
Merci de l'info.
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L’État ne peut pas imposer un délai d’exécution à un projet immobilier privé dès lors que la mise en valeur de la concession est déjà réalisée. C’est l’investisseur qui décide du rythme des travaux en fonction de ses moyens. Par contre, l’État doit garantir la sécurité juridique et judiciaire des investissements ; ce qui n’est toujours pas le cas en RDC .
En ce qui concerne le projet Gare centrale, il faudrait attendre la reprise des travaux pour être fixé sur la véracité des intentions des uns et des autres. Depuis la suspension des travaux il y a huit ans, nous en sommes réduit à des conjectures et spéculations, d’autant plus l’État congolais, habitué à fonctionner comme une structure mafieuse, ne diffuse officiellement aucune information quant à ses arrangements avec les investisseurs.
Tshisekedi a interet a se departir du style de la gouvernance kabiliste s'il veut calmer les congolais etant d'avis qu'il n'a pas ete elu par les Congolais mais nomme par les bandits kabilistes. Il doit immediatement embracer la transparance et visiter souvent les quartiers du petit peuple et satisfaire leurs besoins, creer des emplois au lieu de se vautrer dans des clubs des riches aux mains sanglantes et ceux qui pillent les richesses du pays ou/ s'identifier aux voyoux kabilistes et rwandais et mafieux libanais qui remplissent les rues de la Gombe. Il doit gouverner comme le "president du peuple", honnete comme J. Kasa-Vubu et visionnaire. Il doit se creer une tradition de s'associer au petit peuple et ouvrir les portes du pays aux businessmen des pays developpes pas des pays sous-developpes comme le Liban, Inde, Pakistan, Chine, Rwanda....-qui ne nous apportent que misere et pauvrete.

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Fight against congestion in Kinshasa: agreement for the construction of leap-frogs



The Office of Roads and Drainage (OVD), the Office of Roads (OR) and some Chinese companies signed this Friday 19 April at the Ministry of Infrastructure, Public Works, and Reconstruction, contracts for the construction of leap-frogs in the city of Kinshasa.

These infrastructures aim to eradicate traffic jams on the arteries of the city of Kinshasa.

According to the director general of the OVD, Benjamin Wenga, this work falls within the framework of the 100 days of the head of state launched on March 2.

These Chinese companies have 7 to 10 days of preparation to start the work, said Benjamin Wenga who gives details on the places where will be erected these leap-frogs.

Lumumba and Sendwe at University Avenue, crossing Triomphal Boulevard and Kasa Vubu at Pont Cabus, at the intersection of Liberation Avenue and Sergeant Moke at ASSANEF. At the junction of the Boulevard du 30 juin and liberation, that is to say Mandela roundabout. At SOCIMAT, on the roundabout Kitambo store, on the roundabout Pumping, at Delvaux Lalou and UPN, "said Mr. Wenga.

Regarding the cost of each book, Benjamin Wenga specifies that it varies between 1 million 200,000USD per site to 4 million USD. He also specifies that this work will take 3 to 4 months.

The director general of the OVD apologizes for the inconvenience that will be observed on the roads, even if he evokes the fact that deviations are required.

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Lutte contre les embouteillages à Kinshasa : accord pour la construction des saute-moutons

L’Office des voiries et drainage (OVD), l’Office des Routes (OR) et certaines entreprises chinoises ont signé ce vendredi 19 avril au ministère des Infrastructures, travaux publics, et reconstruction, des contrats pour la construction des saute-moutons dans la ville de Kinshasa.

Ces infrastructures visent à éradiquer les embouteillages sur les artères de la ville de Kinshasa.

D’après le directeur général de l’OVD, Benjamin Wenga, ces travaux rentrent dans le cadre des 100 jours du chef de l’Etat lancé le 2 mars dernier.

Ces entreprises chinoises ont 7 à 10 jours de préparation pour débuter les travaux, indique Benjamin Wenga qui donne les détails sur les endroits où seront érigés ces saute-moutons.

« Lumumba et Sendwe au niveau de l’avenue Université, au croisement de boulevard Triomphal et Kasa Vubu à Pont Cabus, au croisement de l’avenue Libération et sergent Moke au niveau de ASSANEF. Au croisement du boulevard du 30 juin et libération, c’est-à-dire rond-point Mandela. Au niveau de SOCIMAT, sur le rond-point Kitambo magasin, sur le rond-point Pompage, au niveau de Delvaux à Lalou et à l’UPN », a expliqué M. Wenga.

En ce qui concerne le coût de chaque ouvrage, Benjamin Wenga spécifie qu’il varie entre 1 millions 200 000USD par site à 4 millions USD. Il précise aussi que ces travaux prendront 3 à 4 mois.

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Fight against congestion in Kinshasa: agreement for the construction of leap-frogs



The Office of Roads and Drainage (OVD), the Office of Roads (OR) and some Chinese companies signed this Friday 19 April at the Ministry of Infrastructure, Public Works, and Reconstruction, contracts for the construction of leap-frogs in the city of Kinshasa.

These infrastructures aim to eradicate traffic jams on the arteries of the city of Kinshasa.

According to the director general of the OVD, Benjamin Wenga, this work falls within the framework of the 100 days of the head of state launched on March 2.

These Chinese companies have 7 to 10 days of preparation to start the work, said Benjamin Wenga who gives details on the places where will be erected these leap-frogs.

Lumumba and Sendwe at University Avenue, crossing Triomphal Boulevard and Kasa Vubu at Pont Cabus, at the intersection of Liberation Avenue and Sergeant Moke at ASSANEF. At the junction of the Boulevard du 30 juin and liberation, that is to say Mandela roundabout. At SOCIMAT, on the roundabout Kitambo store, on the roundabout Pumping, at Delvaux Lalou and UPN, "said Mr. Wenga.

Regarding the cost of each book, Benjamin Wenga specifies that it varies between 1 million 200,000USD per site to 4 million USD. He also specifies that this work will take 3 to 4 months.

The director general of the OVD apologizes for the inconvenience that will be observed on the roads, even if he evokes the fact that deviations are required.



https://www.radiookapi.net/2019/04/1...a-construction
My only concern with respect to this project is safety: will these over-passes be safely built by Chinese? A collapse of the overpass in rush hours would be disastrous in terms of human lives.
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My only concern with respect to this project is safety: will these over-passes be safely built by Chinese? A collapse of the overpass in rush hours would be disastrous in terms of human lives.
In essence, Chinese companies are not bad. The quality of their work depends on the customer’s wish. If you pay for quality infrastructure, you will get quality infrastructure. However, if you want to build on the cheap, they will deliver you crap infrastructure. The planning was done by the Congolese themselves; all the Chinese have to do is to build the infrastructure using building materials Congo will put at their disposal.
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