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Old March 20th, 2017, 08:31 PM   #21
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No you`re right djay. I was quite worried about what they`d propose.
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If you wanna know how ancient I am,I watched the Middleway being constructed- and all the tower blocks that have now gone.

We used to run through the giant drainage/sewer pipes before they were buried.

Simple pleasures.

(if even half of these proposals get built I'll be surprised.ats.)
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Old March 20th, 2017, 08:51 PM   #23
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Am I right in thinking this DOESN'T include the areas within the red boundary?
I like the curved structure top-right!
The oddly-shaped 'curved' cream claw top-right appears to straddle the Gooch Street/Horton Square end of St.Lukes Road,block it off,even?

In the Sixties/early Seventies my mates and I called that 'The Back Grass' behind the now-demolished Maisonettes.It was our astroturf for many a kickabout-a nearby washing area being a floodlit hard-surface training ground.

Oim blubbin now...
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Old March 20th, 2017, 08:59 PM   #24
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I really like the Bristol Street massing, will create an impressive gateway coming down Bristol Road with Park Central opposite. Not keen on the low level housing in the middle that looks like the typical council estate that's just been flattened. If they turn out like the new housing in Lozell's well maybe it won't be so bad. Would have loved to see a stylish "regency" style element here, behind that impressive frontage. However no doubt this is partly about delivering as many houses as possible for the housing shortage and within budget guidelines.
Can't see any commercial/retail element which a development this size surely needs now Tesco and Asda have pulled their plans.
As we move towards town we are going to have the Monaco House development as well as the similar sized recently announced scheme between Bromsgrove Street and seven capital's Madison House, quite literally thousands of new homes and people. Would have thought one of those supermarket schemes would have been viable, now we have such a huge residential element building up here?
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Old March 20th, 2017, 09:22 PM   #25
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There is always that vacant plot between the Stone Road YWCA and McDonalds.
Nice Aldi could slip in there.
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Old March 20th, 2017, 09:25 PM   #26
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Coming to think of it, this is like a continuation of Park Central, I think they've done well with the smaller houses, it is needed this close to the City Centre I think. I see no problems after looking through the D&A Statment, but I can see them coming into major problems with demolishing the church.

The only thing I'd say is the Belgrave roundabout struggles as it is, something needs to be done there.
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Old March 20th, 2017, 09:27 PM   #27
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Not particularly impressed. 3 storey Townhouses within the Ring Road are not acceptable, especially with gardens. And the poor church, I always felt it would make such a great pub.
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Old March 20th, 2017, 10:09 PM   #28
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I really do love that church. Always smiled when I walked past it.

I like the houses. I think houses are important and gardens are important. But they are quite generous gardens and in the wrong place.

Love the taller blocks, Would rather have seen a continuation of the taller blocks but with communal gardens.
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Old March 20th, 2017, 10:20 PM   #29
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We need to get out of this habit of including houses in these schemes, European cities can be quite dense over a large area. But houses should not be built anywhere within the ring road if we want to compete with the big boys, and we really need to do better than this.

I can just envision it now, lots of brick walls which will be vandalised in the first 6 months.
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Old March 20th, 2017, 10:27 PM   #30
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If you wanna know how ancient I am,I watched the Middleway being constructed- and all the tower blocks that have now gone.

We used to run through the giant drainage/sewer pipes before they were buried.

Simple pleasures.

(if even half of these proposals get built I'll be surprised.ats.)
Hey, I thought I was the oldest on here!!!
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Old March 20th, 2017, 10:38 PM   #31
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Hey, I thought I was the oldest on here!!!
You cant be far behind ?
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Old March 20th, 2017, 11:20 PM   #32
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Can't imagine having gardens overlooked by such a large amount of flats (sorry apartments!) is a a good idea. Who is going to keep them neat and tidy? I could imagine a barking dog would really get an echo going and you can rule out naturist society BBQ's.
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Old March 20th, 2017, 11:29 PM   #33
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This is terrible but knew it would be. It's not one thing nor another. Trying to be the jack of all but mastering none. Forget the houses with gardens, keep the church and build only mid to high rise around the church as a feature and focus on the strengths that already exist. The proposed design will just be another bland cut off useless area of the city.
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There is a brilliant blueprint on how to do it just across the road. Surprised they didn't consider a communal central green space with the church as a focus at the end as a community hub or similar. In fact where is the green space?
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Old March 20th, 2017, 11:35 PM   #35
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I like the houses. I think houses are important and gardens are important. But they are quite generous gardens and in the wrong place.
The gardens are about 10m. The minimum allowed by policy.

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There is a brilliant blueprint on how to do it just across the road. Surprised they didn't consider a communal central green space with the church as a focus at the end as a community hub or similar. In fact where is the green space?
Loads of green space, the green space meets the required policy standards and includes a playing field. There is a whole football pitch too and a linear green walkway that links to the river area.
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Old March 20th, 2017, 11:41 PM   #36
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The church is still in use isn't it? I'd rather they keep it. I do like the scheme though.
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Old March 20th, 2017, 11:43 PM   #37
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It was St Luke's Church. Later it became the "The Redeemed Christian Church of God". It's not listed.

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Old March 20th, 2017, 11:50 PM   #38
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To be fair its pretty grim around here at the moment. I would have preferred to see a continuation of the Park Central style (central swathe of park) rather than the very suburban looking housing with neat high-fenced rectangular gardens. Looks like its more suited to some out of town estate rather than inner city. But on the other hand it doesn't warrant huge apartment blocks.

It's very 'meh' to me.
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Old March 20th, 2017, 11:53 PM   #39
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If this gets passed then it just shows how Bham has no hope. Sold its soul to the devil of blandness. Complete lack of imagination as per usual. Are these plans drawn by robots or people!? Bludy awful
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If this gets passed then it just shows how Bham has no hope. Sold its soul to the devil of blandness. Complete lack of imagination as per usual. Are these plans drawn by robots or people!? Bludy awful
Just becouse you may not like it, each to there own. But please please do not rubbish the whole city just becouse of one development that does not meet your ambition. Stuff like Smithfield should be how you judge the ambition of this city and we have yet to see detailed proposals for this site.
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