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Old March 4th, 2018, 03:55 PM   #121
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The tower elements of the design will present a more modern face to the city. This will be achieved with a dark grey / black metal panelled facade that helps disguise the location of the windows on the facade.
So we don't actually know how big the windows are as they are disguised, which if you ask me is quite a neat feature.
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Going on that then I’d say the blacks no light grey panels are the windows then
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Old March 4th, 2018, 06:16 PM   #123
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This is such a hit or miss development. There will a lot of people who will really like it and a lot who really won't. I'm pleased that according to the Business Desk article the massing will be significantly reduced - this may reduce the marmite element of the building.

It could be a really significant building for Birmingham as anybody driving in on the A38 flyover will have their eyes drawn immediately to it when entering the city core.

I sense that there is a slight lack of texture to the scheme which is a shame because if they do get it right and there is more detail added this could be a really cool building. A comparison could be made to the future Bloc hotel which may also have a shock factor and I'm really looking forward to that development.
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Old March 15th, 2018, 04:00 PM   #125
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The car park as been closed and site for this as been cordoned off with large concrete blocks..
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Old April 16th, 2018, 11:19 AM   #126
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Drove past this site this morning.

port a cabin and jcb's are on site. I think this is about to begin.
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Old April 16th, 2018, 12:45 PM   #127
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Great news. Still not sure about the design so it'll be interesting to see how it turns out, could be either way.

And with a new set of cranes coming in the next couple months, we're in for a very impressive crane skyline and some hardcore crane porn
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Old April 16th, 2018, 09:49 PM   #128
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Great news. Still not sure about the design so it'll be interesting to see how it turns out, could be either way.

And with a new set of cranes coming in the next couple months, we're in for a very impressive crane skyline and some hardcore crane porn
Yes i agree with you Mos. i hate the tower 100% but great to have another surface car park built on.
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Ultimately, the shape is pretty good.

If you hate the colour and the material you can just pray for a reclad!
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Old April 16th, 2018, 10:12 PM   #130
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I know the surface car parks are a standing joke on here, I'm a guilty perpetrator myself.....and I still think the "they paved paradise and put up a parking lot" was one of the best posts on the whole Birmingham forum (albeit not relevant to this thread).

But to get the point of my post, with all these surface car parks being built on at last, where are all the cars going to park? I know the "times are changing", "trams", "we'll all have hover boards" arguments, but there could well be a transition period where we're going to run out of parking.

In recent years we've happily lost Suffolk Street (Orion), Centenary Square (library site), Snow Hill (1,2 & 3 SH) and Masshouse (Exchange Sq) and fingers crossed we'll soon see the back of this one.

I can't see GCS bombsite going soon, and we've sadly gained Connaught Sq. but we are seeing numbers diminish. Does BCC have any plans for more multi stories?
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I know the surface car parks are a standing joke on here, I'm a guilty perpetrator myself.....and I still think the "they paved paradise and put up a parking lot" was one of the best posts on the whole Birmingham forum (albeit not relevant to this thread).

But to get the point of my post, with all these surface car parks being built on at last, where are all the cars going to park? I know the "times are changing", "trams", "we'll all have hover boards" arguments, but there could well be a transition period where we're going to run out of parking.

In recent years we've happily lost Suffolk Street (Orion), Centenary Square (library site), Snow Hill (1,2 & 3 SH) and Masshouse (Exchange Sq) and fingers crossed we'll soon see the back of this one.

I can't see GCS bombsite going soon, and we've sadly gained Connaught Sq. but we are seeing numbers diminish. Does BCC have any plans for more multi stories?
Another one has gone for the new student complex on Upper dean street too F&N and hopefully the car parks around southside will soon be gone too, but yes i agree where will the cars park ??
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Yeah. A huge one under HS2 station some 2000 spaces or something Digbeth park and ride at 800 spaces I think it was. But really the parking numbers on the majoirty of sites being lost is tiny. I would hazard a guess and say we can’t have lost more than 2k spaces overall and many only existed in the last decade and a bit. We also have a lot of car parks that are not fully utilised. NIA being an example which is usually mostly empty with sections closed off, Cambridge street, cineworld 1&2 are rarely ever full. Snow hill and B4 parking aren’t ever full for example.
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B4 ????
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Old April 16th, 2018, 11:23 PM   #134
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I know the surface car parks are a standing joke on here, I'm a guilty perpetrator myself.....and I still think the "they paved paradise and put up a parking lot" was one of the best posts on the whole Birmingham forum (albeit not relevant to this thread).

But to get the point of my post, with all these surface car parks being built on at last, where are all the cars going to park? I know the "times are changing", "trams", "we'll all have hover boards" arguments, but there could well be a transition period where we're going to run out of parking.

In recent years we've happily lost Suffolk Street (Orion), Centenary Square (library site), Snow Hill (1,2 & 3 SH) and Masshouse (Exchange Sq) and fingers crossed we'll soon see the back of this one.

I can't see GCS bombsite going soon, and we've sadly gained Connaught Sq. but we are seeing numbers diminish. Does BCC have any plans for more multi stories?


Where do all the cars park in London? How about Rome, Paris, Amsterdam etc? These cities manage without ugly car parks in their centres.

Basically more people will have to catch the bus or train.
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The greatest car park in the country.

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Old April 17th, 2018, 01:33 AM   #136
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Old April 17th, 2018, 09:43 AM   #137
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Where do all the cars park in London? How about Rome, Paris, Amsterdam etc? These cities manage without ugly car parks in their centres.

Basically more people will have to catch the bus or train.
Sort of my point KH. Don't misunderstand me, these car parks have been a blot on our city for most of my life here and I'm pleased to see the back of them.

I'd like to think we can copy the best practices of cities like those you refer to.

I take it B4 is the old Birmingham Post site.
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Yes i agree with you Mos. i hate the tower 100% but great to have another surface car park built on.
I completely don't understand that logic.

I too, am not a fan of this design in the slightest. It'll be a similar height to Centre City Tower and the Hyatt. Yet it's going to be a huge black slab with some awful massing. I would sooner this was left as a surface car park and had a went back to the drawing board.

I was discussing this build with a colleague who said "Well it's better than what is there now" Which I feel is being repeated on this forum. A surface car park is miles better than this design in my opinion as it represents potential, all the derelict sites in the City that we complain about have so much potential. Just because this is student accommodation doesn't mean it has to be lower quality. I don't know what the benchmark is in Birmingham but there is such a variation in quality. For those using the Aston Expressway into Birmingham this will be the tallest first impression, and it's currently being turned into a completely lifeless student area. We'll have people moving here that are living in the area for a maximum of three or four years, that won't care about the area in the slightest. Hence why there are so many boarded up pubs in the area. This then becomes the norm and the pubs and the other derelict spots are replaced with more poor quality student accommodation.
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But to get the point of my post, with all these surface car parks being built on at last, where are all the cars going to park? I know the "times are changing", "trams", "we'll all have hover boards" arguments, but there could well be a transition period where we're going to run out of parking.
The answer to this feels both obvious (to me) and slightly difficult to explain.

The simple answer is people will park elsewhere, change travel mode, or go elsewhere.

The more complex answer relates to how changes is brownfield land uses affects travel demand overall. Consider that the resident population onf Birmingham City centre has already gone from less than 2000 just 20 years ago to more than 30'000 now. That's an awful lot more people living in the city (amd walking) rather than driving in everyday. Parking spaces for 'out of towners' become homes for city living.

Changes in land use and travel mode are also undergoing quite fundamental shifts...we have reached 'peak car' yet at commuting times our cities remain grid locked therefore the majority of captial investment in new transport infrastructure is now in public transport.

.As such our aim in planining policy terms is that we 'want' less cars in our city and more use of PT, walking and cycling. This is a policy choice... to move away from car centric development towards compact cities with high density development, with high quality urban realm buikt around transport hubs.

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NB the figures on city centre population are from the back of my head. If anyone has any up-to-date sources it would be great if they could share
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The guy in the portacabin was standing in the exact same position when I drove past half hour ago, hope he's alright
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